On the ham radio aspects: I thought ham radio use is restricted to those
who would not emit political oppinion, but rather talk about how ham
radio works.
In such a context, nobody would forbid ham radio.
Also, it is very easy to jam purposefully, but it is very hard to
identify when one is under purposeful jam (or maybe it does not
propagate because other natural reasons). As such, it's hard to make
claims about when and what is jammed. These claims can only come from
those who actually jam. And then, it is hard to tell whether the
jamming was successful.
About red cross and churches supporting those in need: it is a good
statement, but not universal. Both have some stories of not doing so,
in particular during WWII.
For WWII jamming: radio equipment ('biscuits', among others; it's the
equivalent of DISHYs today) were used by Resistants in France. One
could go to prison for that use. German enemies would jam it at times,
and at other times they'd triangulate the position with goniometers to
find and punhish the emitter.
More recently, during Cold War, there is so much more to be said about
jamming that an email is not enough :-)
Alex
Le 30/10/2023 à 06:56, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit :
The main problem as it stands with Gaza would be to get Starlink
equipment in for the international organisations to use. Coverage
wouldn't be an issue, but power and bandwidth would be.
It's a pretty dire situation. Palestinian friends of ours have had
extended family killed, the wife's mother is currently visiting here
and can't go back obviously - plus her apartment got flattened in her
absence early on. Then our friend's teenage kids from his previous
marriage got buried under rubble when their mother's place got
flattened, and that was just up to last week. I really need to ask him
what's happened since. They came here because they were sick of Hamas.
On the ham radio side, I helped a bit with band watch for MARS
(military affiliated amateur radio system) during the first Gulf War
when the local US garrison (Old Ironsides) got sent from Germany to
Saudi Arabia. A lot of them found out the hard way that if you have a
bank account in Germany and you're on deployment, your significant
other doesn't automatically get access to it like apparently they do
in the US, and the army didn't exactly think that it was their
problem, either. Got to listen to a lot of that. First world problems
compared to Gaza, though.
On 30/10/2023 5:32 pm, Joe Hamelin via Starlink wrote:
The US did shut down ham radio during WW2.
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:27 AM Dave Taht via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
I think that the internet should stay up, connecting people to
people,
through all the conflicts we may ever have. The mails kept running -
although censored - all through world war two - the red cross,
allowed
by all sides, to keep it's relief missions running, the churches
(mostly) doing their job to console the weary...
Many other orgs, like the ITU, and the IETF, are committed to the
continued free exchange of information, no matter what.
https://www.itu.int/en/about/Pages/default.aspx
I am happy to see a worldwide ISP committed to the same principles.
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:07 AM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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