No NAT required for IPv6 (incoming or outgoing) connections. And there
doesn't appear to be any restrictions on IPv6 traffic.
This is with the round Dishy.
Cheers,
Freddie
Typos due to smartphone keyboard.
On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 3:54 a.m. Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit :
> yes, starlink does respond to its customers' complaints, although
> sometimes slowly. its ipv4 address acquisition is scattered
around as
> a latecomer to the isp world, and as a global local isp, it's more
> troublesome. ip packets have to be tunneled back to its home pop
where
> nat and other functions happen, sometimes around the world,
causing a
> much higher minimum rtt fluctuation in 15-second handover
> intervals---bad for network protocols and applications. ipv6 can do
> better but currently follows the same route as ipv4---an
incentive to
> promote ipv6 ;-)
Excellent incentive!
It would be good to know whether the dishy router obtains a /56 or
a /64
prefix from the starlink ISP. That is easy to find out by just
looking
at the packets. This would tell whether a NAT can be avoided at
home,
and hence more apps made possible.
IT would also be good to know whether the claimed IPv6 access on
dishy
is via a tunnel (IPv6 in IPv6, or IPv6 in IPv4) or it is 'native' (no
tunnel). That will tell many things about additional latency that
might
be brought in by IPv6. (we'd want less latency, not more).
After that, one can look more at promoting IPv6. Otherwise, IPv6
might
still look as a hurdle, an obstacle, additional work that is too
little
necessary, or might even be worse than IPv4.
Alex
> --
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Web.UVic.CA/~pan <http://Web.UVic.CA/~pan>
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:04 AM Noel Butler
<noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote:
>> Thanks, it seems they are trying it on then :)
>>
>> On 04/12/2023 10:44, J Pan wrote:
>>
>> starlink advertises its customer ip address location at
>> http://geoip.starlinkisp.net (not always updated but good enough in
>> most cases and traceroute can confirm to some extent as well)
>> --
>> J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca,
Web.UVic.CA/~pan <http://Web.UVic.CA/~pan>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 4:15 PM Noel Butler via Starlink
>> <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I run an open access usenet server, but only for those within
my CC, so access is by IP based on our CC allocations from APNIC.
>>
>> Because IPv4 exhaustion this changes sometimes with buying
allocations from other regions, and if they get denied access I
encourage them to let us know so we can keep ACL's updated, I've
had a request from a starlink user who claims they are here, but
traceroute shows them in .DE
>>
>> tracing some 217.foo.ad.dr
>>
>> ...
>> 9 ae-6.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
<http://ae-6.r21.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net> (129.250.3.183)
290.223 ms 290.180 ms ae-1.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
<http://ae-1.r20.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net> (129.250.7.35) 280.523 ms
>> 10 ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
<http://ae-1.a03.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net> (129.250.3.152)
290.109 ms 289.667 ms 292.864 ms
>> 11 ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net
<http://ae-0.spacex.frnkge13.de.bb.gin.ntt.net> (213.198.72.19)
279.611 ms 278.840 ms 279.592 ms
>> 12 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.189) 280.127 ms
278.506 ms 284.265 ms
>> 13 undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.209) 284.198 ms
undefined.hostname.localhost (206.224.65.201) 274.663 ms 273.073 ms
>> 14 * * *
>>
>>
>> As it is our policy to not collect any user info or issue
user/pass's and only allow access by IP, I'm hoping someone here
knows if they are full of it, or does starlink really assign
addresses from anywhere? That one hardly makes sense for user
experience, or maybe starlink has so few users in this country
they haven't bothered changing anything yet?
>>
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>>
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>> Noel Butler
>>
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