AW: [SAtalk] Forwarding mail for sa-learn

2003-07-16 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Phil, >I've setup 2 mailboxes to use for sa-learn. When I or anyone else >forwards mail into either the spam or nonspam mailboxes, does it matter >if a ton of the messages will be from me, and they will have >the subject prefaced by "FW:"? I would think either of those things would really >thr

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist Problem

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:46:17 -0400 "Gorm Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I run spamassassin 2.55 on a Redhat 7.2 system > > The attached email is spam, but it was not filtered because of the > "USER_IN_WHITELIST" assessment. I studied my whitelist, and neither > the originator nor stri

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
SWO> I want a recipe for /etc/procmailrc which conditionally runs a message SWO> through spamc *only* if it hasn't already been processed by SA. I want to SWO> use the X-Spam-Status and/or the X-Spam-Flag headers. OK, try this: :0fw * < 256000 * ! ^X-Spam-Status: | spamc (The exclamation poi

[SAtalk] no_real_name counterpart

2003-07-16 Thread Jeremy Kister
This may be a Microsoft Outlook-only thing, but I am getting a lot of NO_REAL_NAME hits on messages that are forwarded on behalf of someone. in the headers: From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: "Jeremy Kister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and my MUA shows me: From: Jeremy Kister [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf o

[SAtalk] Re: no_real_name counterpart

2003-07-16 Thread Jeremy Kister
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:52 AM, I wrote: > .. but, to keep the regex semi-simple, it does allow for names as ' or . or > even whitespace. I have improved the regex myself, As I couldnt stand whitespace/comma/tick/dash/dot being valid. > header JK_SENDER1 Sender =~ /^"?[a-z0-9\s\.\',-]+

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist Problem

2003-07-16 Thread Gorm Jensen
Close. I whitelisted myself, and the spam's "Return-Path" points to me. Thanks, Bob. > Even without seeing the missing attachment, I'm guessing the message > matched something in the default whitelists in > /usr/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf > > Amazon? > > -- Bob ---

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 08:29, Abigail Marshall wrote: > SWO> I want a recipe for /etc/procmailrc which conditionally runs a message > SWO> through spamc *only* if it hasn't already been processed by SA. I want to > SWO> use the X-Spam-Status and/or the X-Spam-Flag headers. > > OK, try this: > >

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Alexander Litvinov
> That will work, but if everyone starts doing it then spammers will start > forging X-Spam-Status lines into their spam. The idea is good but that > implementation is trivially defeated. It seems to much better solution will be | spamassassin --remove-markup | spamassassin (remove any markup by

[SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-16 Thread Alain Fauconnet
Hello, Hope I won't get flamed for this, but I haven't found anything in the FAQs. One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but according to the rules matching, it should get 5.0 (it does if I run

[SAtalk] Rule help?

2003-07-16 Thread Michael W. Cocke
I'm trying to work out a rule to bounce messages that contain no text - just a mime or base64 attachment. Using (and new to) SA 2.55. Any hints? Thanks! Mike- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. Please note - Due to the i

[SAtalk] RedHat 2.1 ES install woes

2003-07-16 Thread Michael Weber
I'm trying to get the RPM's to install and their are failed dependencies... But there shouldn't be! Here's what I get: # rpm -ivh perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-1.7.3.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: perl(HTML::Parser) is needed by perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-1 But, when I try to update

RE: [SAtalk] (OT) DSL/DIALUP manual BL Catch 22

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Pat Masterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] (OT) DSL/DIALUP manual BL Catch 22 > > > Here it is Chris.. > GL. -pat > Thanks for your access file Pat!! Your list was great help. I wanted to let you know how I'm handling this as it may be

RE: [SAtalk] RedHat 2.1 ES install woes

2003-07-16 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
Michael, This is an RPM-ism. Because you installed HTML::Parser via CPAN, the rpm db doesn't know it's installed. You should either install SA through CPAN, too, using "install Mail::SpamAssassin" or you should add the --nodeps flag to rpm and force the RPM install. This latter approach, howeve

Re: [SAtalk] RedHat 2.1 ES install woes

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:36 AM 7/16/03 -0500, Michael Weber wrote: I'm trying to get the RPM's to install and their are failed dependencies... But there shouldn't be! Here's what I get: # rpm -ivh perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-1.7.3.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: perl(HTML::Parser) is needed by perl-Mail

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist Problem

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:46 AM 7/16/03 -0400, Gorm Jensen wrote: I run spamassassin 2.55 on a Redhat 7.2 system The attached email is spam, but it was not filtered because of the "USER_IN_WHITELIST" assessment. I studied my whitelist, and neither the originator nor strings containing the originator are listed, so I

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-16 Thread Jim Ford
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:01:12PM +0700, Alain Fauconnet wrote: > Hello, > One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers > included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel l

[SAtalk] specifying homedir for Razor2

2003-07-16 Thread Adam Denenberg
Is it possible to specify the path to look for Razor2's home in Spam Assassin? I dont want to use /root/.razor or anything else it defaults to. thanks adam --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple oper

RE: [SAtalk] specifying homedir for Razor2

2003-07-16 Thread Yackley, Matt
Adam, Try something like this in SA's local.cf razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf > > -Original Message- > From: Adam Denenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:19 AM > To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > > Is it possible to specify the path to

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:02, Alexander Litvinov wrote: > > That will work, but if everyone starts doing it then spammers will start > > forging X-Spam-Status lines into their spam. The idea is good but that > > implementation is trivially defeated. > > It seems to much better solution will be > |

[SAtalk] defang_mime in 2.55

2003-07-16 Thread Adam Denenberg
is defang_mime still an option in 2.55 ? Can it be placed in sql table for user prefs? I am getting the following error in 2.55 : debug: retrieving prefs for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from SQL server Jul 16 10:41:06 somehost spamd[18395]: debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, ski

Re: [SAtalk] defang_mime in 2.55

2003-07-16 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Adam Denenberg wrote: > is defang_mime still an option in 2.55 ? Can it be placed in sql table > for user prefs? nope. look at "report_safe". -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "I love drag queens, you can take 'em to dinner and then dancing, and if you g

Re: [SAtalk] RedHat 2.1 ES install woes

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:11:38 -0600 "Benjamin Tomhave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Weber wrote: > > I'm trying to get the RPM's to install and their are failed > > dependencies... But there shouldn't be! > > > > Here's what I get: > > > > # rpm -ivh perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-1.7.3.i386.r

Re: [SAtalk] defang_mime in 2.55

2003-07-16 Thread Adam Denenberg
would i be correct in saying report_safe 2 does what i remember defang_mime to do? (strips out html and converts email to text). I dont want any extra reports added to the email . thanks adam On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 11:59, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Adam

Re: [SAtalk] defang_mime in 2.55

2003-07-16 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On 16 Jul 2003 11:08:57 -0400 Adam Denenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is defang_mime still an option in 2.55 ? Can it be placed in sql table > for user prefs? > > I am getting the following error in 2.55 > > : debug: retrieving prefs for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from SQL server > > Jul 16

[SAtalk] Procmail script to handle SA marked messages

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Barnes
I need a simple procmail script so that any messages marked as spam by SA get put into a folder named "Filtered" (I use IMAP, so using the MUA is not an option). My initial thought was to simply look for the **SPAM** that SA adds to the subject line. Seemed easy enough, right up until I found out

Re: [SAtalk] Procmail script to handle SA marked messages

2003-07-16 Thread Steve Thomas
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 11:43:31AM -0500, Chris Barnes is rumored to have said: > > I need a simple procmail script so that any messages marked as spam by > SA get put into a folder named "Filtered" (I use IMAP, so using the MUA > is not an option). > Here's the procmail stuff I use for SA: ###

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
YD> That will work, but if everyone starts doing it then spammers will start YD> forging X-Spam-Status lines into their spam. The idea is good but that YD> implementation is trivially defeated. YD> To make it a little more spammer-resistant I would add version_tag YD> something to local.cf and adj

[SAtalk] Re: RedHat 2.1 ES install woes

2003-07-16 Thread Tom Diehl
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Michael Weber wrote: > I'm trying to get the RPM's to install and their are failed > dependencies... But there shouldn't be! > > Here's what I get: > > # rpm -ivh perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.55-1.7.3.i386.rpm > error: failed dependencies: > perl(HTML::Parser) is needed

Re: [SAtalk] which is 'better' for reporting/learning?sa-learn+razor vs. spamassassin -r

2003-07-16 Thread Nix
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following: > spamassassin -r reports to razor/pyzor and bayes razor, pyzor, dcc, and bayes. > sa-learn only does bayes? > > what would be best for reporting a maildir of spam? > > spamassassin -r each file? > > or sa-learn the directory and th

Re: [SAtalk] Getting Razor error

2003-07-16 Thread Dragoncrest
Erm ... _no_, actually. What's in the vicinity of line 420 of /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm on the machine with the problem? I've got the same thing you do on like 420 that you have on Line 407. In fact what you have and what I have (I've got SA v2.55) are

Re: [SAtalk] Getting Razor error

2003-07-16 Thread mikea
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 04:51:27PM -0400, Dragoncrest wrote: > > >Erm ... _no_, actually. What's in the vicinity of line 420 of > >/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm > >on the machine with the problem? > > I've got the same thing you do on like 420 that you hav

Re: [SAtalk] Genetic Algorithm assigns some DNSBLs a score of 0?(Myunrejectv3)

2003-07-16 Thread I Am Jesus @sent
Matt Kettler wrote: Flipping back to your original post... Thankfully. I *think* what you are asking is that all the RBL's be GAed and then the "for pay" ones zeroed out later with their GA assigned scores in comments. Thanks for a clear and informative explanation that shows why a sensib

Re: [SAtalk] which is 'better' for reporting/learning? sa-learn+razor vs. spamassassin -r

2003-07-16 Thread jvanasco
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 04:14 PM, Nix wrote: You'd have to run the files through spamassassin -d before passing them to razor, and sa-learn also has to do that, so spamassassin -r is faster (you're only doing the equivalent of a -d once) as well as being more effective (you're reporting to

Re: [SAtalk] Genetic Algorithm assigns some DNSBLs a score of 0? (Myunrejectv3)

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:42 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, I Am Jesus @sent wrote: I see evidence that the current scores are not being optimally set. A LOT of the Rules scores are apparrently still at initial values: integers, 0.001, or 0.100 suggesting they weren't really optimized by the GA. It obviously isn't being run

Re: [SAtalk] Genetic Algorithm assigns some DNSBLs a score of 0? (Myunrejectv3)

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:42 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, I Am Jesus @sent wrote: I re-suggest (v 1.1) something like the original comments followed by: * #These are suggested starting values for users too lazy or otherwise unable to run the GA optimizer to find the optimal values.* #score RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 1.8 #score R

Re: [SAtalk] which is 'better' for reporting/learning? sa-learn+razor vs. spamassassin -r

2003-07-16 Thread Kelson Vibber
Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You'd have to run the files through spamassassin -d before passing them to razor, and sa-learn also has to do that, so spamassassin -r is faster (you're only doing the equivalent of a -d once) Only if you have SA alter the message. If all you do is add headers, you

Re: [SAtalk] (OT) DSL/DIALUP manual BL Catch 22

2003-07-16 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 08:26 15/07/03 -0700, Jonathan Nichols wrote: I'm using a DSL line on my email server. Which is part of my ISP's static DSL pool. I don't send thru my ISP's mail server. I'm starting to see the error in this now. In my mind I had somehow split the difference of HOME DSL and BUSINESS DSL. I al

Re: [SAtalk] (OT) DSL/DIALUP manual BL Catch 22

2003-07-16 Thread Jonathan Nichols
If you've got the connection with the intention of running your own mailserver, check the IP address(es) you've got on an RBL lookup page such as: Fortunately, I'm not on any of the RBL lists. I don't have enough customers to spam! ;) The problem thing is that my IP block was still a "DSL IP

[SAtalk] One final problem

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Andreko
I have gotten spamassassin to work on windows with Vircom Vopmail, I will see about giving some sort of writeup and source code to the teeny tiny program I had to write. The only problem I'm having is that certain emails when being reported to me that they are spam messages, do not have the origin

[SAtalk] Newbie: Bayes filtering

2003-07-16 Thread George Yobst
Hi all, As I understand it, the sa-learn starts the Bayes filtering process, but is per-user, so everybody would have to do their own? How do I get it to run on the server level (or would that be too CPU intensive)? Can I just copy the files to .? Did a Google search and nothing came up.

RE: [SAtalk] specifying homedir for Razor2

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Yackley, Matt wrote: > Adam, > > Try something like this in SA's local.cf > > razor_config /var/amavis/.razor/razor-agent.conf > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adam Denenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:19 AM > > To: Spamassassi

Re: [SAtalk] Getting Razor error

2003-07-16 Thread Dragoncrest
Since it is sporadic, I suspect that it is related to connectivity and/or congestion issues at (a/the) razor2 server(s). This suspicion is strengthened in my mind by the comment in the code about providing a better diagnostic than "Bad file descriptor" when the server is unavailable. Well,

[SAtalk] Debian Packages (Spamassassin/Razor)

2003-07-16 Thread Michael Bellears
I have Debian packages for Spamassassin 2.55 and Razor 2.22 available here: http://www.datafx.com.au/spam/ Tested and working on two of my servers - Not responsible if they break anything! Regards, MB --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM

[SAtalk] Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD

2003-07-16 Thread Lance Ware
Title: Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD Hi Folks, We're seeing some false positives with SA/MailScanner. It looks like SA thinks the headers below are forged, even though these are legitimate emails generated by Yahoo's store system. Any thoughts? TIA, Lance [removed exchange heade

[SAtalk] Trouble training bayes ?

2003-07-16 Thread Simon Byrnand
Hi People, Not having done a lot of manual training of Bayes until recently I havn't come across this before, but it seems that with some kinds of messages its very difficult to train them as ham and get a sufficiently low BAYES score to make a difference. These are mainly genuine messages tha

Re: [SAtalk] Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD

2003-07-16 Thread Justin Mason
"Lance Ware" writes: >Hi Folks, > >We're seeing some false positives with SA/MailScanner. > >It looks like SA thinks the headers below are forged, even though these >are legitimate emails generated by Yahoo's store system. damn, FPs :( Could you open a bug on http://bugzilla.SpamAssassin.org/ ,

Re: [SAtalk] Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD

2003-07-16 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 17:38 16/07/03 -0700, Lance Ware wrote: Hi Folks, We're seeing some false positives with SA/MailScanner. It looks like SA thinks the headers below are forged, even though these are legitimate emails generated by Yahoo's store system. Any thoughts? TIA, Lance [removed exchange headers et

[SAtalk] LOTS_OF_STUFF bug?

2003-07-16 Thread Jay Levitt
The LOTS_OF_STUFF rule will match URLs of the following type:   http://1.2.123.3/images/something.gif   I'm not sure what, if anything, would be a better solution   Jay Levitt

[SAtalk] 2.60-cvs and Bayes problem

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
It seems like upgrading from 2.53 to 2.60-cvs has thrown off my Bayes scoring. Now most messages (even blatant 'ham') get a bayes rating of 90% or higher. I've rebuilt it with a "sa-learn --rebuild" I'm using "DB_File -- 1.77" for the database, so it shouldn't be the problem. I have a reasonable

RE: [SAtalk] Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD

2003-07-16 Thread Lance Ware
Thanks. Will do! > -Original Message- > From: Justin Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:44 PM > To: Lance Ware > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Problems with FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD > > > "Lance Ware" writes: > >Hi Folks, > > > >We're seeing some

Re: [SAtalk] Newbie: Bayes filtering

2003-07-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:31 PM 7/16/03 -0700, George Yobst wrote: As I understand it, the sa-learn starts the Bayes filtering process, but is per-user, so everybody would have to do their own? How do I get it to run on the server level (or would that be too CPU intensive)? Can I just copy the files to .? Did a G

[SAtalk] 2.60-cvs problem with dial-up RBLs?

2003-07-16 Thread David B Funk
After installing 2.60-cvs I've noticed a number of FPs resulting from SA misinterpreting dial-up RBL data. In particular, it does not seem to recognise the source IP address as the originator of the message and so considers all the dial-up RBL scores that it hits as a spam indication. For example