On 4 Jun 2002 Craig R Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> What I'm looking for is:
>
> * SSL
> * PHP
> * MySQL or equivalent
> * Credit card processing
> * Disk space and bandwidth which can start off lowish, but be cranked up as
> required
> * preferably also SSH/SCP access
>
> Need reliable conn
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First, I need to apologize for sending all this mixed in one patch:
- I did send two of these separately earlier here
- The patches are somewhat interleaved, so splitting them would have meant
writing multiple versions
- I didn't have
Silly me, I screwed up, my previous mail was sent with a completely invalid
Email, I do not work for mail-abuse.org
Please answer to this one or your copy to the bad address will bounce
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First, I need to apologize for sending all this
Craig R Hughes wrote:
> Yes -- SA itself does not communicate with syslog -- which is probably
> the Right
> Thing.
I see - because spamd is the controlling program (? and in general is
always (usually anyway) a 'slave' to some client program), or some other
reason?.
> spamd is the thing which
Bryan Hoover wrote:
BH> Craig R Hughes wrote:
BH> > spamd is the thing which is detaching itself from the terminal and
BH> > therefore losing SA debug messages;
BH>
BH> But these messages are dropped when SA is run from .procmailrc aren't
BH> they? That is, aren't SA's "warning" messsage only
I've installed mail scanner to scan for virus all
of email in my server and then I installed spamassin to work together
to stop spam. I've installed also Razor and i've create an
email-account that send all the email to @spamtraps.taint.org i would
to create an email for my clients like
> another problem is that all my clients use outlook express=20
>and they send forward message
> is this handle correctly by razor-report and=20
No.
For safe use of razor, you must bounce the message, not forward
it. Forward always changes the body of the email, and razor needs an
unaltered body
On Tue, 04 Jun 2002, Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try doing a cvs update. Or if you downloaded of the web site, try
> downloading again. (I.e. today's build rather than yesterday's)
Same problem here. Both in the cvs snapshot downloaded from the web site
today, and the one I downl
I have one specific question. How do I
setup this file /usr/bin/spamd -F 0 -L -x -u spamc to run with the specified
permissions.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug
Dempsey
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subje
i read that razor can handle forward attached email..
outlook express cannot bounce message
> > another problem is that all my clients use outlook express=20
> >and they send forward message
> > is this handle correctly by razor-report and=20
>
> No.
>
> For safe use of razor, you must bounce
>i read that razor can handle forward attached email..
>outlook express cannot bounce message
There are hundreds of MUA and each has a different way to present
attachements.
How could Razor handle all of them?
You can also save the message to a file and spamassassin -r http://devcon.sprintpcs.c
ok... but when i save a message to a file can i
send it via mail?
because my clients have not another way to report
spam..
>i read that razor can handle forward attached email..>outlook
express cannot bounce messageThere are hundreds of MUA and each has a
different way to presentattachemen
Hi!
...and then Web administrator (Tratti.com s.r.l.) said...
%
% i read that razor can handle forward attached email..
% outlook express cannot bounce message
It can probably handle mime-encapsulated forwarded messages, but it's true
that any changes in the body will muck up the razor report.
Hi again --
...and then Web administrator (Tratti.com s.r.l.) said...
%
% ok... but when i save a message to a file can i send it via mail?
% because my clients have not another way to report spam..
You're a web admin; is there any chance of a web-based reporting page?
Perhaps even saving the p
> ok... but when i save a message to a file can i send it via mail?
> because my clients have not another way to report spam..
I don't know, it would need to clean the file first I am afraid, so
what they send is really only the body of the spam. Any alteration of
the body makes it unseless to re
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There's a rule for that now in CVS. Any repeated word in all caps which is 3 or
> more letter long will trigger.
That particular one turned out to be problematic and is being
debugged still I think. But I get the idea, none the less.
__
Craig R Hughes wrote:
> No, you can't just redirect STDERR, if you're using the -d flag, spamd
> will
> detach from the launching tty, and disconnect from that tty's STDERR,
> STDIN and
> STDOUT. If you specify -D and -d together, then spamd should
> definitely install
> a $SIG{__WARN__} handler
The person emailing me had what they wanted to say in the subject line,
and I guess the email server added this little ditty on at sendtime...
from bakernet.com
start here and go to the end. ---
This is an email from Baker & McKenzie, solicitors. The contents of this
email are confidential t
Brian May wrote:
> The person emailing me had what they wanted to say in the subject
> line,
> and I guess the email server added this little ditty on at sendtime...
>
> from bakernet.com
>
> start here and go to the end. ---
>
I'll have my lawer contact your lawer.
Bryan
--
Labor exploitat
Hehe.
-- Forwarded message --
I have produced which I consider to be a very useful spinoff from
SpamAssasin, which I call ToilAssassin. Here is some sample output:
TOIL: Start ToilAssassin results --
TOIL: This mail is probably work-relat
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Bryan Hoover wrote:
> Craig R Hughes wrote:
>
> > spamd is the thing which is detaching itself from the terminal and
> > therefore losing SA debug messages;
>
> But these messages are dropped when SA is run from .procmailrc aren't
> they? That is, aren't SA's "warning" mess
Bart Schaefer wrote:
> > Just seems to me that if a program's logging, e.g., SA, is set to go
> to
> > the screen
>
> I don't know what gave you this idea about SA, but it's not the case.
OK then, just seems to me that if a program's logging, e.g., SA, is set
to go to standard error..
Bryan
--
I just found it very amusing to see "CAUSE NEWS" in my spam folder. :)
You might consider using this to try to further refine your filters so
as not to block such a message, although I understand why it would be
difficult.
Ryan
--- Begin Message ---
SPAM: Start SpamAssass
During "make test" (which BTW I think every developer ought to run before
committing anything):
t/razor.readline() on closed filehandle
Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus::DCCHDL at ../lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Dns.pm line 238.
t/razor.ok 1/2readline() on closed filehandle
Mai
Jan Chrillesen wrote:
JC> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002, Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JC>
JC> > Try doing a cvs update. Or if you downloaded of the web site, try
JC> > downloading again. (I.e. today's build rather than yesterday's)
JC>
JC> Same problem here. Both in the cvs snapshot downloaded
No, it's worked out now, and fully operational in CVS.
C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > There's a rule for that now in CVS. Any repeated word in all caps which is 3 or
> > more letter long will trigger.
>
> That particular one turned out to be probl
Bryan Hoover wrote:
BH> Craig R Hughes wrote:
BH>
BH> > No, you can't just redirect STDERR, if you're using the -d flag, spamd
BH> > will
BH> > detach from the launching tty, and disconnect from that tty's STDERR,
BH> > STDIN and
BH> > STDOUT. If you specify -D and -d together, then spamd should
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you guys -- TextCat.pm is definitely in CVS.
> Maybe there's some weird permissions thing?
It's in CVS, but it's not in the tar.gz snapshot:
http://spamassassin.org/devel/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.21.tar.gz
__
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you guys -- TextCat.pm is definitely in CVS. Maybe
> there's some weird permissions thing? Check lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/ and see if
> the file is there, but just "invisible" for some reason. Also, try re-bu
Yes, I just noticed this myself. I think it's a bug in the patch from Bugzilla
#343 -- looks like a copy/paste bug -- how can you expect to read from a
descriptor which perl just told you it failed to open...
I'll delete that line.
C
Bart Schaefer wrote:
BS> During "make test" (which BTW I t
Frickin' manifest. Ok, I updated it so tonight's build should work.
C
Bart Schaefer wrote:
BS> On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Craig R Hughes wrote:
BS>
BS> > Don't know what to tell you guys -- TextCat.pm is definitely in CVS.
BS> > Maybe there's some weird permissions thing?
BS>
BS> It's in CVS, but it'
If I am running qmail, do I still need to install procmail to have
spamassassin work??
Thanks
Doug
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Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/inde
Doug --
...and then Doug Dempsey said...
%
% If I am running qmail, do I still need to install procmail to have
% spamassassin work??
Not necessarily :-)
If you want SA to run on all mail, you can tell qmail to run messages
through SA as part of the processing. If you only want it for a user
Hi,
I've recently installed SA, and I'm impressed by its precision - but one
spam that got through (attached) suggests a possibility for
improvement...
It has many spam characteristics, and SA (version 2.20) picks up
INVALID_MSGID, LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2, LINES_OF_YELLING_3,
FORGED
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 01:17:41PM -0700, Craig R Hughes wrote:
| dman wrote:
|
| d> | whitelist_from *root*
| d>
| d> How about
| d> whitelist_from *root*Cron Daemon*
|
| I think the whitelist checks against the address part, and not the "Real Name"
| or (Comment Name) parts. So *root* o
Craig R Hughes wrote:
> SA when it was
> first built was not expecting to be used in a detached-daemon
> environment where
> its stderr was disconnected -- so when we disconnect it in spamd, it's
> only
> polite to let SA continue to communicate with the outside world
> (unless the user
> specif
Ryan Hayle wrote:
> * Progress of Senate anti-spam bill
>
> Over a year ago, Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) introduced S.630, the CAN
> SPAM Act of 2001. This bill would require UCE to have a valid return
> address to facilitate consumers' removal from spam lists.
I hope this sort of thing doesn't cat
I'm writing a wrapper in perl for our LDA (a customized version of tmail)
which will process the mail through SA.
Everything's fine piping the message into SA - it comes back with headers
added etc.
The problem is that I can't open a _bidirectional_ pipe to a program
(spamc), as you can with a r
Bryan Hoover wrote:
BH> Craig R Hughes wrote:
BH>
BH> > SA when it was
BH> > first built was not expecting to be used in a detached-daemon
BH> > environment where
BH> > its stderr was disconnected -- so when we disconnect it in spamd, it's
BH> > only
BH> > polite to let SA continue to communicat
Hi,
not that I need it implemented, :-) but from a theoretical point of
view, is it possible to configure SA so that it correlates incoming
e-mails between different users and tags the same e-mail sent to
everybody as spam? It's not exactly Vipul's Razor (because it's
automatic), but the underlyi
Title: Communigate contrib script
Hello
I am seeing an issue with the scanspam.sh script for communigate, and I was wondering if anyone could help. Every so often I am getting an undeliverable mail error reporting that "External processing timed out". Has anyone seen this issue and/o
Craig R Hughes wrote:
> Spamd is not a client of SA, it's a client of spamd, through the
> well-define
> SPAMD/SPAMC protocol.
I'm using the term client in the same sense that any procedure, or
program that calls another procedure or program, is a client of the
procedure or program it calls (fro
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>not that I need it implemented, :-) but from a theoretical point of
>>view, is it possible to configure SA so that it correlates incoming
>>e-mails between different users and tags the same e-mail sent to
>>everybody as spam? It's not exactly Vipul's Razor (because it's
Bryan Hoover wrote:
BH> Ryan Hayle wrote:
BH>
BH> > * Progress of Senate anti-spam bill
BH> >
BH> > Over a year ago, Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) introduced S.630, the CAN
BH> > SPAM Act of 2001. This bill would require UCE to have a valid return
BH> > address to facilitate consumers' removal from sp
Craig R Hughes wrote:
> I wrote a letter to Senator Burns and the cosponsors of the bill
> offering my
> time free to them if they needed any technology consulting help
> regarding spam
> issues. Haven't heard back.
>
Indeed. We don't need laws, when we've got revenge (ha, ha)!
What will all
perldoc IPC::Open2
C
Steve Thomas wrote:
ST> Anyone know how to open a file/command (open FOO, "|foo"), write to it and
ST> then read back from it? It seems like something that would be needed fairly
ST> often, although I can't say that I've run across the need for it in the
ST> couple of years
Thanks to Craig and Robert James Kaes for pointing me to this - looks like
exactly what I need!
Thanks again,
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Craig R Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:43 PM
To: Steve Thomas
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Sort-
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Steve Thomas wrote:
> Anyone know how to open a file/command (open FOO, "|foo"), write to it
> and then read back from it?
The trouble with this is that both the "opener" process and the "opened"
process have to be prepared for interprocess communication. If either of
them a
A friend of mine recently suggested the idea of using a "mousetrap" email
address for detecting spam. I've heard of this technique being used for
tracking spam, but it had never occurred to me that I could use it to catch
spammers.
Basically, the idea is to put an email address on a web page, ei
can someone explan to me why runing spamd from /etc/init.d/spamassassin
dosent seem to be working with spamc. but if i run spamd -D as root at a
prompt spamc runs just fine?
i'm testing this by spamc < sample-spam.txt
spamd from the init returns without marking
apamd from the prompt returns with
Chris --
...and then Chris Petersen said...
%
% A friend of mine recently suggested the idea of using a "mousetrap" email
While great ideas, they're not new. They're also known as "honey pot"
addresses.
You can either hide the link or boldly say "do not send mail to ..." right
there.
The tar
I found the site that textcat came from on the internet, and it includes a
set of language models, *.lm that the TextCat requires. Does the
TextCat.pm module require these .lm modules to run, and does the
distribution include them?
Also, I've NEVER gotten a clean "make test" Not sure if the
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:16:08PM -0500, bradw wrote:
> can someone explan to me why runing spamd from /etc/init.d/spamassassin
> dosent seem to be working with spamc. but if i run spamd -D as root at a
> prompt spamc runs just fine?
Which init script are you using? Are you running spamd -D in a
I hope you all have me on your AWL :-)
I read this article this morning in The Globe and Mail, one of Canada's two national
newspapers. I thought people might be interestedDuncan Findlay ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
thought you would be interested in this article from http://www.theglobeandmail.com
I
I am trying to get SA working with procmail and hand it off to cyrus. I have 90% of
this debugged and working for me. I am having a problem with the final delivery. If
anyone can give an insight I would appreciate it.
Here is the error.
Jun 5 15:47:25 mail postfix/pipe[16809]: 5857D2645C:
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 the voices made Duncan Findlay write:
> I hope you all have me on your AWL :-)
Unless "you all" ignored reading the fine manual the list is of course
whitelisted. =)
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=4.5
tests=AS_SEEN_ON,UNIVERSITY_DIPLOMAS,PENIS_ENLARGE2,ALL_NATURAL,REA
This one missed all of the Nigerian tests ...
- Forwarded message from "Mr.Raymond Seko Mobutu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from eclectic.kluge.net (host-217-146-15-10.warsun.com [217.146.15.10] (may
be forged))
by eclectic.kluge.net (8.11.6/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I found the site that textcat came from on the internet, and it
> includes a set of language models, *.lm that the TextCat requires.
> Does the TextCat.pm module require these .lm modules to run, and does
> the distribution include them?
The original language models m
Daniel,
for sanity in installation for end users, can we do one of the following:
a) keep the single-unified language file for the distribution, and just stick
the component model files in a subdirectory under contrib, with the merge
program under tools, but where those files are in MANIFEST.SKI
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Daniel,
>
> for sanity in installation for end users, can we do one of the following:
>
> a) keep the single-unified language file for the distribution, and just stick
> the component model files in a subdirectory under contrib, with the merge
> prog
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 03:38 pm, Bryan Hoover wrote:
> What will all the spammers do when they figure out it doesn't work
> anymore? I wonder how long it will take for this to happen?
Oh, but it does! People actually make money off of this. Really. It's also
a lot cheaper than postal mail
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:25:53PM -0400, Bryan Hoover wrote:
| Craig R Hughes wrote:
|
| > Spamd is not a client of SA, it's a client of spamd, through the
| > well-define
| > SPAMD/SPAMC protocol.
|
| I'm using the term client in the same sense that any procedure, or
| program that calls anoth
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:54:07PM -0700, Paul Bauer wrote:
| I am trying to get SA working with procmail and hand it off to cyrus. I have 90% of
|this debugged and working for me. I am having a problem with the final delivery. If
|anyone can give an insight I would appreciate it.
How about
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> Neither "calls" "SA". SA is a library. There are 2 main front-ends
> providing user access to this library : "/usr/bin/spamassassin" and
> the "spamc/spamd" pair. spamd is just SA in daemonized form. It
> doesn't call anything outside of itself. spamc exists m
I keep getting an error message when I start spamd. Two pids show. One
remains constant and the other changes about every two seconds.
Also, I keep getting a Kwrited screen that stays in the foreground. It keeps
writing lowercase s on a single line without wrapping. If I stop the spamd,
the kwrit
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Thanks, but at the moment it seems cvs distro is having a problem or
either something on my end?
cd spamassassin
make
[...]
---
t/spamd_stop.t21 50.00% 2
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>
> HP> Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> HP>
> HP> [...]
> HP>
> HP> >> Going to the debug output, how can I find the output that pertains to
> HP> >> that message? No date no msgid.
> HP> >> I don't see why its being o
[Slaughtered Subject line ALERT: Not sure what this belongs under,
it showed up on my system sort of buggered up]
Bryan Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>> STDOUT. If you specify -D and -d together, then spamd should
>> definitely install
>> a $SIG{__WARN__} handler which redirects t
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> BH> Just seems to me that if a program's logging, e.g., SA, is set to go to
> BH> the screen, then, unless it offers some sort of config. or switch,
> BH> there's no need for another program to alter its behavior - though, as
> BH> you mentioned, procm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Slaughtered Subject line ALERT: Not sure what this belongs under,
> it showed up on my system sort of buggered up]
>
[deleted]
> Or as someone else posted a day or two ago, you could start spamd like
>
>spamd -D [but not -d] > file 2>&1 &
>
Yes, but not -d. An
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