Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-19 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, October 17, 2003 8:48 AM -0400 Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm spamassassin-tools-2.60-1.i386.rpm spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm What does perl-Mai do? I assume all three need to be installed? SA is essentially a suite of Perl modules, with dr

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-19 Thread Larry Gilson
To: 'Larry Gilson'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > Because I installed SpamAssassin through cpan, does that mean > I have all that is included in spamassassin-tools-2.60-1.i386.rpm ? > > -Original Message- >

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-17 Thread Matt Van Gordon
E: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates Hi Chris, > -Original Message- > From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > > rpmbuild -ta Mail-Spamassassin-2.60.tar.gz

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-17 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Chris, > -Original Message- > From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > > rpmbuild -ta Mail-Spamassassin-2.60.tar.gz > > Thanks

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-17 Thread Chris
> rpmbuild -ta Mail-Spamassassin-2.60.tar.gz Thanks for that tip. Running it produced: perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm spamassassin-tools-2.60-1.i386.rpm spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm What does perl-Mai do? I assume all three need to be installed? --

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Larry Gilson
x27;SA' > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Larry Gilson wrote: > > The sequence I use is : > > 1) perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-vers# > > 2) spamassassin-tools-vers# > > 3) spamassassin-vers# > > Next 'duh' que

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Larry Gilson wrote: > The sequence I use is : > 1) perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-vers# > 2) spamassassin-tools-vers# > 3) spamassassin-vers# Next 'duh' question: What IS 'spamassassin-tools'? I didn't install it. Was it also included in the RH9 default spamassassin-2.44? Is it import

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:40 PM -0400 Terry Milnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're gonna have to excuse my ignorance here but I have to wonder how this > is done, presently for apache I do a pre configure then do the openssl, ssl > mod and perl mod, then pass 15 parameters onto the con

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
s. --Larry -Original Message- From: Terry Milnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:45 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates Hold it a sec, not all rpms contain the source, in fact unless things have changed I thought that most

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:25 PM -0400 Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regardless, issuing an 'rpm --rebuild' on the > RPMS is building from source and installing the resulting binary RPM is > installing from a source that was made on the target machine. If the original author wa

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread David Rodgers
You should really try rug/rc from ximian they have made installing anything on a redhat system as quick as typing rug install spamassassin it will fetch and install all of the dependencies and you can do something else or if you use slackware you can use swaret that is very similar but

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Larry Gilson
tall from source because it is better. RPMS is just a different format of exactly the same process. --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Terry Milnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:45 PM > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamas

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Roger Merchberger
At 12:45 10/16/2003 -0400, Terry Milnes wrote: Hold it a sec, not all rpms contain the source, in fact unless things have changed I thought that most contained precompiled binaries, and that was the problem with them. Correct. Source RPMS (.src.rpm) have the source; otherwise (unless it's a perl

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Terry Milnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For some strange reason I always like the source. I think it > >>goes back to my > >>childhood, when mom said "Why do you have to do everything > >>the hard way?" > >>:-) > > Simple, it's so you have a better unde

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread David Rodgers
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Chris Santerre > > Sent: 16 October 2003 14:48 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > > > > The topic of updates has come up ev

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
l Message- From: Darren Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:28 AM To: Chris Santerre; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always install everything from source. A colleague, a Windows Sys

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Perhaps its time for me to re-visit rpms. If enough people would smarten up and get off the MS bandwagon, I would have a reason to want to improve my existing method of installations. As it is now though with aprox 1/2 dozen servers per year, I think it would be more time consuming. Alan Hod

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:09:36PM -0400, Terry Milnes wrote: > Personally I don't see how its possible to run a customized server using > rpms only. > You need to build your own RPM's for stuff that isn't already packaged or for software that you want special optimizations or options. It's more

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Darren Coleman wrote: I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always install everything from source. A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his Linux boxes from RPMs. Personally I don't see how its possible to run a customized server using rpms only. A windows system admi

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Larry Gilson
an [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:28 AM > To: Chris Santerre; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always > install everything from source. A colleague, a Windows

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Christof Damian
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Darren Coleman wrote: > I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always install > everything from source. A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs > everything on his Linux boxes from RPMs. > > What does that tell you? :) That it depends :-) > Although I like the co

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > > I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always > install everything from source. > A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his > Linux boxes from RPMs. > > What does that tell you? :) > Tells me we need a larger sample size. I'm a Wind

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Darren Coleman
t; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > The topic of updates has come up every new version of SA. You have 3 > options: > > 1) Source > 2) RPM > 3) CPAN > > For some strange reason I always like the source. I think it > goes b

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Santerre
The topic of updates has come up every new version of SA. You have 3 options: 1) Source 2) RPM 3) CPAN For some strange reason I always like the source. I think it goes back to my childhood, when mom said "Why do you have to do everything the hard way?" :-) Anywho, I would love to see this subj

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Gilson, Larry
gt; Cc: Charles Gregory; 'SA' > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > > spamassassin-tools depends on perl-Mail-SpamAssassin. So I wind > > up having to use the --nodeps option: > >

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:03 PM > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 04:57:33PM -0400, Gilson, Larry wrote: > > You have done this way more than I. I just feel cozy > > updating one RPM at a > > A little bit. ;) > > > time. I like increm

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:50 PM -0400 Charles Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The docs say that 'local.cf' will not be affected by updates - it's the > "safe" place to put your local rules. Those error messages would seem to > suggest that is not quite true. That depends on how your

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Brian Morrison
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:25:10 -0400 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The sequence I use is : > 1) perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-vers# > 2) spamassassin-tools-vers# > 3) spamassassin-vers# Why not simply rpm -Uvh spamassassin.rpm spamassassin-tools.rpm perl-Mail-SpamAssassin.

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > spamassassin-tools depends on perl-Mail-SpamAssassin. So I wind up having > to use the --nodeps option: > rpm -Uvh --nodeps something.rpm Ewww! > The sequence I use is : > 1) perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-vers# > 2) spamassassin-tools-ve

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 04:57:33PM -0400, Gilson, Larry wrote: > You have done this way more than I. I just feel cozy updating one RPM at a A little bit. ;) > time. I like increments. I almost feel like an old man writing like that! I can understand that. I figure you should never have to us

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Larry Gilson
The sequence I use is : 1) perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-vers# 2) spamassassin-tools-vers# 3) spamassassin-vers# --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:34 PM > To: Charles Gregory > Cc: 'SA' > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spa

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:59:58PM -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: > > And now that I look at it, that particular file is my local.cf that I > > didn't want over-written! So does this mean it aborts, is half way done, > > or WHAT? Have I just munched my S

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:59:58PM -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: > And now that I look at it, that particular file is my local.cf that I > didn't want over-written! So does this mean it aborts, is half way done, > or WHAT? Have I just munched my Spamassassin 2.44? Could someone please > post COMPLE