Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Jim Knuth
>The best solution is to reject the mail at the smtp level, and then save >it to a central queue. This is the method I use, perhaps 1 in a few >thousand messages I have to recover. I just delete messages from the queue >after 2 weeks. >Don't just delete. >At the very worse, reject the message at t

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Kai MacTane
At 8/22/03 11:06 AM , Kris Deugau wrote: I've seen legit mail on the default SA rules score 12-15. Personally, I've never seen a legitimate mail score over about 4.5, and those were from a couple of folks I know who overuse HTML in their emails. The vast bulk of my ham scores below -5.0. I auto-

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Kris Deugau
"Carl R. Friend" wrote: >I'll concur that auto-deletion is not the wisest path to follow > but I, too, am being lead down that path at the ISP *wibble* Is this a Management path, or a "Users flooding the support lines with requests" path? > I volunteer time > to (non-profit, so don't get you

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Larry Gilson
>-Original Message- >From: Martin Radford >I'd suggest that you get them to put this in writing, explicitly >acknowledging that there is a risk of non-spam being tagged as spam >and being deleted inadvertently. (Perhaps someone could suggest >suitable wording to go in a FAQ item :-) Wi

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread AltGrendel
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:42, Carl R. Friend wrote: >Hello, > > > >I added a section to the main page of the wiki www.exito.us :) > > >One can't repeat this enough, it is NOT a good idea to automatically delete > > >emails marked spam. Then again, it isn't a good idea to date your cousin, > > >

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread landy
i am not seeing messages i've posted to the list today, and reading at the archieves i saw the respnse you posted for me simon... is there a delay on the list i also saw from my procmail that SA marked as spam a msg from SA labeld "I've got a couple more I want to go after" but i did not see it

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Carl R. Friend
Hello, > >I added a section to the main page of the wiki www.exito.us :) > >One can't repeat this enough, it is NOT a good idea to automatically delete > >emails marked spam. Then again, it isn't a good idea to date your cousin, > >but some people never learn! OK, I'll have to admit I darn

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 05:46 PM 8.20.2003 +0100, Yorkshire Dave wrote: >On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:24, Daniel Kaliel wrote: >> I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have >> not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and >> how it is safer not to, instead filtering email

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-22 Thread Lucas Albers
I use sendmail+mimedefang+spamassassin for my spam rejections. Someone else on the list will tell you how to do it using postfix. Need to use the beta version of postfix. I also reccomend rejecting at a higher level, and tagging at a lower level. I started rejecting at 15 and working my way down t

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-21 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Aug 20 16:24:55 2003, Daniel Kaliel wrote: > I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have not fo= > und any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and how it is = > safer not to, instead filtering email on there email client, however, they = > have deci

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-21 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 09:24 AM 8.20.2003 -0600, Daniel Kaliel wrote: I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and how it is safer not to, instead filtering email on there email client, however, they have decided to ha

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-21 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 15:23 20/08/2003 -0400, Shayne Lebrun wrote: Well, depending on your setup... What we do is use an IMAP server, but the vast majority of our users are POP3. So, anybody who wants auto deletion or server side filtering gets some mojo applied to their account, so that tagged spam winds up in the

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 18:51, Kai MacTane wrote: > At 8/20/03 09:46 AM , Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > >If someone instructed me to /dev/null anything marked as spam, and all > >attempts to explain why that was bad had failed, i think a deliberate > >typo would see it all piling up in a mailbox called

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Shayne Lebrun
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kai MacTane Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:51 PM To: spamassassin list Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages At 8/20/03 09:46 AM , Yorkshire Dave wrote: >If someone instructed me to /dev/nu

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 01:02 PM 8.20.2003 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: AltGrendel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:01 PM >> To: SA-Talk >> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages >> >>

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Ernest W. Lessenger
At 10:51 AM 8/20/2003 -0700, you wrote: Ooh... I like the "typo" solution. Keep in mind, of course, that it's possible that the only way to get them to realize they've made a mistake is to *show them* the contents of .dev.null. (Especially if you've set up your filtering criteria such that they

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Lucas Albers
> On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:24, Daniel Kaliel wrote: >> I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have >> not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and >> how it is safer not to, instead filtering email on there email client, >> however, they have decid

RE: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: AltGrendel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:01 PM > To: SA-Talk > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages > > > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:24, Daniel Kaliel wrote: > > I have been tryin

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Kai MacTane
At 8/20/03 09:46 AM , Yorkshire Dave wrote: If someone instructed me to /dev/null anything marked as spam, and all attempts to explain why that was bad had failed, i think a deliberate typo would see it all piling up in a mailbox called .dev.null ready for when they realise they made a mistake :)

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Patrick Morris
It depends how you have SA set up, and what calls it. SpamAssassin will not ever delete mails -- it just tags them. Daniel Kaliel wrote: I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and how it is safer

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 16:24, Daniel Kaliel wrote: > I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have > not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and > how it is safer not to, instead filtering email on there email client, > however, they have decided to

Re: [SAtalk] Configure to delete messages

2003-08-20 Thread AltGrendel
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:24, Daniel Kaliel wrote: > I have been trying to find documentation on how to do this, but have > not found any. I spoke with the partnership of my company on this and > how it is safer not to, instead filtering email on there email client, > however, they have decided to