Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-29 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Jan 28 09:39:06 2004, jean-christophe valiere wrote: > I agree with what you said, the probleme is that in the mail I attached the word > have some swaped letters like: > Hi, > > Genierc and Sepur Viarga (Caiils) available online! > Most trusted online source! > > >

[SAtalk] sa-learn from other computers in a cluster

2004-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes
Ok, we're probably not using a "cluster" in the truest since of the word. We have 1 main Linux box as a server (houses the /home directories, runs sendmail/SA, apache, etc). Runs LDAP which acts as the authorative user directory. Users do not have shell access to this machine. We have 4-5 other

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-28 Thread Toni Andjelkovic
On Wed, Jan 28 2004 (10:39:06 +0100), jean-christophe valiere wrote: > Cilais or (Spuer Vagira) > takes affect right away & lasts 24-36 huors! > FOR SUEPR VAIRGA TOCUH HERE > > I wanted to know if somebody has already received such mail and if it was > tagged as spam. I get qui

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-28 Thread jean-christophe valiere
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 11:00:07AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 12:22 PM 1/27/04 +0100, jean-christophe valiere wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached. > >When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is > >nor c

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:22 PM 1/27/04 +0100, jean-christophe valiere wrote: Hi, I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached. When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is nor considered as spam. So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt an

[SAtalk] sa-learn & spamassassin question

2004-01-27 Thread jean-christophe valiere
Hi, I've got a little problem with the mail that is attached. When I try spamassassin -t -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt it is nor considered as spam. So I do spamassassin -r -D rulesrun=255 < mail.txt ans it sayes me that Razor already learnt this messa

Re: [SAtalk] SA-learn with multiple users

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:14 PM 1/20/2004, Kenneth Andresen wrote: Will SA-learn filter all mails for everybody using the same rules, or how can it work with different rule set for each user/mail account? by default bayes databases and rulesets are specific to the user that executes SA (note: that's execution, which

[SAtalk] SA-learn with multiple users

2004-01-20 Thread Kenneth Andresen
Hello all, I want to use Bayesian Rules on all incoming mails for all users on our server, however am not entirely sure how to do it as the 100+ mail accounts we have are not in use by an homogenous group... As I understand it, using SA-learn needs both good and bad e-mails to work properly, and

[SAtalk] SA-learn with multiple users

2004-01-20 Thread Kenneth Andresen
Hello all, I want to use Bayesian Rules on all incoming mails for all users on our server, however am not entirely sure how to do it as the 100+ mail accounts we have are not in use by an homogenous group... As I understand it, using SA-learn needs both good and bad e-mails to work properly, and

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn, mbox deleted messages

2004-01-17 Thread Gary Funck
> > You could use formail/procmail, > > formail -s procmail sa_learn.rc < mbox | sa-learn > > where sa_learn.rc might appear as follows: > > > LOGFILE=$HOME/sa_learn.log # While debugging > VERBOSE=yes# """" > LOGABSTRACT=yes# """" > SENDMAIL=

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn, mbox deleted messages

2004-01-17 Thread Gary Funck
> From: Barton L. Phillips > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:28 AM > > I am using Mozilla and when I delete a message it is marked: > Status: RO > X-Status: D > > When I run sa-learn the deleted messages are learned. I can "compact > this folder" but I sometimes forget. Is there a way to ha

[SAtalk] sa-learn, mbox deleted messages

2004-01-17 Thread Barton L. Phillips
I am using Mozilla and when I delete a message it is marked: Status: RO X-Status: D When I run sa-learn the deleted messages are learned. I can "compact this folder" but I sometimes forget. Is there a way to have sa-learn not look at X-Status: D messages, or do I have to write a perl front end?

[SAtalk] sa-learn trouble

2004-01-16 Thread Rolf Kraeuchi
Hi My SA seems to forget about already learned messages: sa-learn --spam spam*.eml Learned from 107 message(s) (217 message(s) examined). If I do it again on the exact same mail files: sa-learn --spam spam*.eml Learned from 107 message(s) (217 message(s) examined). What's gone wrong? thanks

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn always learns only one message in a directory

2004-01-16 Thread Brad Hazledine
Are you using the --mbox flag with sa-learn? Brad On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Marcus Frischherz wrote: > Hi! > > I use SA 2.61, exim 4.24 and WU imapd, I use IMAP4 and keep my mails on the > server. The folders seem to be in the mbx format. When I run sa-learn on one of > them it, sa-learn is busy f

[SAtalk] sa-learn always learns only one message in a directory

2004-01-16 Thread Marcus Frischherz
Hi! I use SA 2.61, exim 4.24 and WU imapd, I use IMAP4 and keep my mails on the server. The folders seem to be in the mbx format. When I run sa-learn on one of them it, sa-learn is busy for a while. However, afterwards the number of ham or spammed it learnt, is only increased by one (as shown b

[SAtalk] sa-learn and Groupwise

2004-01-15 Thread BJM
Hi list, I'm a bit stumped. We're using Spam Assassin on a linux box, is acting as a mail gateway, delivering mail internally to a Groupwise server (running on Netware 6). I'm trying to figure out how users can submit FPs and missed spam so we can use sa-learn to train the bayes filter. I'

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and Groupwise

2004-01-15 Thread Andy Donovan
In the latest versions of Guin there is a tools directory that should have EXPORTSPAM http://www.beginfinite.com/html/gwen_manual_2/index.htm create a shared folder that users put SPAM into, then extract this and feed your database ... check out the above link to read up on it >>> BJM <[EMAI

[SAtalk] sa-learn and Groupwise

2004-01-15 Thread BJM
Hi list, I'm a bit stumped. We're using Spam Assassin on a linux box, is acting as a mail gateway, delivering mail internally to a Groupwise server (running on Netware 6). I'm trying to figure out how users can submit FPs and missed spam so we can use sa-learn to train the bayes filter. I'

[SAtalk] sa-learn HELP!

2004-01-12 Thread Quinn Comendant
Sorry, I'm reposting this message. It's important for me to have an answer, and I don't know where else to go for help! I'm an administrator of a spamassassin-enabled server with 250 users. I'm upgrading from 2.55 -> 2.61 and, as suggested in the INSTALL doc, want to use "sa-learn --import" and "s

[SAtalk] sa-learn --rebuild for all users

2004-01-10 Thread Quinn Comendant
I'm an administrator of a spamassassin-enabled server with 250 users. I'm upgrading from 2.55 -> 2.61 and, as suggested in the INSTALL doc, want to use "sa-learn --import" and "sa-learn --rebuild" to update the DB_File Bayes files for every user on the system. Each user's files are stored in: /home

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn --mbox and pipes

2004-01-05 Thread Dougie Nisbet
On Monday 05 January 2004 1:14 pm, Matt Kettler wrote: [ ... ] > Perhaps you should try to see if cat is modifying it. On some systems cat > will wind up stripping certain non-printable characters. (Not that such > charachters should be there.. however...) Top tip! I've just tried that on my set

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn --mbox and pipes

2004-01-05 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:12 PM 1/4/04 -0800, Shane Wegner wrote: My simplified testcase is as follows. I have a message in mbox format saved as msg.3. continuum:~$ sa-learn --debug-level --mbox --ham < msg.3 ... debug: bayes: Learned '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' cat msg.3 | sa-learn --debug-level --mbox --ham ... debug: baye

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn summary, what does it mean?

2003-12-29 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:50 PM 12/29/03 -0800, Barton L. Phillips wrote: Learned from xx message(s) (yy message(s) examined). Sometimes the learned xx is less than the examined yy. My question is what do these two numbers mean. I took a quick look at the code but it is quite circuitous and I was hoping someone just

[SAtalk] sa-learn summary, what does it mean?

2003-12-29 Thread Barton L. Phillips
When I run sa-learn it shows a summary with: Learned from xx message(s) (yy message(s) examined). Sometimes the learned xx is less than the examined yy. My question is what do these two numbers mean. I took a quick look at the code but it is quite circuitous and I was hoping someone just knew the

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-24 Thread Scott Blomquist
Jennifer Wheeler wrote: Snipped btw 42??? what did you mean by that. that was very creepy to see, because i've tried to convince my brother from an early age, that the number 42 *haunts* me and turns up *everywhere*! that'll either be a very good year for me, or that's the year i'll buy t

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-24 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
> > btw 42??? what did you mean by that. that was very > > creepy to see, > > because i've tried to convince my brother from an early > age, that the > > number 42 *haunts* me and turns up *everywhere*! that'll > either be a > > very good year for me, or that's the year i'll buy the farm

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-24 Thread Mike Kuentz (2)
> btw 42??? what did you mean by that. that was very > creepy to see, > because i've tried to convince my brother from an early age, that the > number 42 *haunts* me and turns up *everywhere*! that'll either be a > very good year for me, or that's the year i'll buy the farm per se! http://

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-24 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
Hello there Rubin > > The ruleset name _was_ her idea 8^) > > I can see that my post could seem a little odd taken out of > context, so let me clarify: Jenn's Backhair *ruleset* will > help with the bogus html tags. I know nothing about Jenn's > backhair. I must confess that I do, however, oc

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-24 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Evan Platt > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:26 PM > To: Rubin Bennett > Cc: SpamAssassin > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000 > > > --On T

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Rubin Bennett
The ruleset name _was_ her idea 8^) I can see that my post could seem a little odd taken out of context, so let me clarify: Jenn's Backhair *ruleset* will help with the bogus html tags. I know nothing about Jenn's backhair. I must confess that I do, however, occasionally find myself pondering (am

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Evan Platt
--On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:56 PM -0500 Rubin Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jennifer's Backhair rules. That sentence could be taken the wrong way... :) Evan --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Rubin Bennett
s anyone have any rules which are > successfully blocking these messages? > > Tim Donahue > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kang , Joseph S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:44 PM > > To: Timothy Donahue; [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Timothy Donahue
AIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:44 PM > To: Timothy Donahue; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Timothy Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Kang , Joseph S.
> -Original Message- > From: Timothy Donahue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000 > > How can I process messages from our exchange server as spam? > I have a

[SAtalk] sa-learn from Exchange 2000

2003-12-23 Thread Timothy Donahue
How can I process messages from our exchange server as spam? I have a whole bunch of messages that I have collected, that I would like to scan that have come through our SA filter recently. Most of them have a bunch of random words that were inserted at the end of the message. Does anyone have a

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn throwing errormessage about DB_File.pm

2003-12-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:28 AM 12/23/2003, tobi wrote: Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt (>) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DB_File.pm line 270. Learned from 3 message(s) (45 message(s) examined). Has anybody seen something like this before? I already tried to delete the bayes data files but same result. O

[SAtalk] sa-learn throwing errormessage about DB_File.pm

2003-12-23 Thread tobi
Hi all! When running "sa-learn --spam --mbox Spam" sa-learn replies with that: Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt (>) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DB_File.pm line 270. Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt (>) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DB_File.pm line 270. Use of uninitiali

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn not "learning?"

2003-12-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:06 PM 12/15/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm confused here. I have just installed Spamassassin on the server. I had a folder with a few spams I'd recieved and wanted to feed them to sa-learn so it would recognise these types of email as spam. But when I run sa-learn --spam --mbox spamdump

[SAtalk] sa-learn not "learning?"

2003-12-15 Thread dan
I'm confused here. I have just installed Spamassassin on the server. I had a folder with a few spams I'd recieved and wanted to feed them to sa-learn so it would recognise these types of email as spam. But when I run sa-learn --spam --mbox spamdump it says learned from 0 messages (3 messages s

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread Martin Radford
At Sat Dec 13 14:02:53 2003, J. S. Greenfield wrote: > > On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs > during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. > > Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages > (i.e., wit

[SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread J. S. Greenfield
On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages (i.e., without the spam assassin filters already added) when training manua

[SAtalk] sa-learn and bayes

2003-12-12 Thread Dan Tappin
After setting-up spamassassin, RTFM and monitoring the list I am still very confused about the correct way to set-up and run spamassassin with bays (sa-learn). The basics: I am running Post.Office as a MTA on OS X client 10.2.8. Post.Office has a plug-in that calls SA, checks the spam status a

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on hand-sorted mailboxes

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn on hand-sorted mailboxes Just for curiosity (normally I just let autolearning happen without interference from my meddling fingers), I tried to use sa-learn. $ sa-learn --spam --mbox SP

[SAtalk] sa-learn on hand-sorted mailboxes

2003-12-12 Thread greg
Just for curiosity (normally I just let autolearning happen without interference from my meddling fingers), I tried to use sa-learn. $ sa-learn --spam --mbox SPAM Learned from 0 message(s) (15 message(s) examined). $ sa-learn --ham --mbox mail/saved-messages Learned from 0 message(s) (20 message(s

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and bayes

2003-12-11 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Dan Tappin wrote: [...] > bayes_auto_expire 1 > bayes_learn_to_journal 0 > > My maillog still shows 'permission denied' errors on the /var/root/.spamassassin > folder. When I run sa-learn (as root) my bayes > files are created in /var/root/.spamassassin/ but as user

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and bayes

2003-12-11 Thread Pedro Sam
On December 11, 2003 06:00 pm, Dan Tappin wrote: > After setting-up spamassassin, RTFM and monitoring the list I am still very > confused about the correct way to set-up and run spamassassin with bays > (sa-learn). > > The basics: > > I am running Post.Office as a MTA on OS X client 10.2.8. Post.O

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-11 Thread AthlonRob
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 23:38, David B Funk wrote: > Just try completely removing those bayes_toks & bayes_seen files > and do a 'sa-learn --rebuild'. It should take that bayes_journal file > and use its data to create a new database. Good to go, I think... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.spamassassin$ rm ba

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-11 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, AthlonRob wrote: > > Just for S&G, try doing a 'sa-learn --dump magic' and see if it > > likes what it sees. If you cannot even --dump magic then it's > > truly corrupted, no repair, just delete and start fresh. > > I got some funky output: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.spamassassi

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread AthlonRob
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 21:41, David B Funk wrote: > Hate to say it, but it looks like your database is hosed. Well that's no fun. :-) > Permissions are OK, it's looking at the correct files, locks are good, > etc. Ok... > those 'File Exists' errors indicate that the DB_File library found >

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, AthlonRob wrote: > On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 19:50, Adam Denenberg wrote: > > in the same directory as the bayes DB files. > > Unfortunately, there are no .lock files in that directory. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.spamassassin$ sa-learn --rebuild -DD > debug: Final PATH set to: /usr

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:17 PM 12/10/03 -0800, AthlonRob wrote: Cannot open bayes databases /var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: ... Where might the lock files be? Try /var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes*.lock --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IB

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread AthlonRob
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 19:50, Adam Denenberg wrote: > in the same directory as the bayes DB files. Unfortunately, there are no .lock files in that directory. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.spamassassin$ sa-learn --rebuild -DD debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? yes debug: Running in tai

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread Adam Denenberg
in the same directory as the bayes DB files. adam - Original Message - From: "AthlonRob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ..

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread AthlonRob
On Wed, 2003-12-10 at 19:11, Justin Mason wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.spamassassin$ sa-learn --rebuild > > Cannot open bayes databases /var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: > > Cannot open bayes databases /var/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: tie failed: > > File exists > > Cann

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AthlonRob writes: > Hello list- > > I've been using SA for a while, including the bayes stuff, training it > with sa-learn every few weeks on the latest spam samples and ham I > happen to have received. > > I just did... a root oops. > > I was runn

[SAtalk] sa-learn ... R/W: tie failed!

2003-12-10 Thread AthlonRob
Hello list- I've been using SA for a while, including the bayes stuff, training it with sa-learn every few weeks on the latest spam samples and ham I happen to have received. I just did... a root oops. I was running known spam mails through a script which does a sa-learn --single --spam on the t

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing?

2003-12-10 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, Kris, On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Kris Deugau wrote: > William Stearns wrote: > > You should use _bounce_ or _redirect_, instead. > > Which, unfortunately, adds some new headers with most MUAs. :( Along > with the extra set of Received: headers that go along with sending a > message

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing?

2003-12-10 Thread Kris Deugau
William Stearns wrote: > You should use _bounce_ or _redirect_, instead. Which, unfortunately, adds some new headers with most MUAs. :( Along with the extra set of Received: headers that go along with sending a message (which you could probably work around). The only way I've seen to get a mes

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing? (forwarded learning)

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Starr
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:10 pm, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 11:32 AM 12/10/2003, Larry Starr wrote: > >My question regards scripts to ease processing of these mailboxes. Since > > the messages are forwarded, from several different Email clients > > (netscape, kmail, pine, AppleMail, etc), ext

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing?

2003-12-10 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, Larry, On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Larry Starr wrote: > I currently have mimedefang (2.37) and spamassassin (2.60) running on a RH9 > mail gateway. > > Spamassassin is configured to block messages with a very high SA score and to > tag and pass along everything else. > > I have two a

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing? (forwarded learning)

2003-12-10 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:32 AM 12/10/2003, Larry Starr wrote: My question regards scripts to ease processing of these mailboxes. Since the messages are forwarded, from several different Email clients (netscape, kmail, pine, AppleMail, etc), extracting the original message, for sa-learn is proving to be non-trivial.

[SAtalk] sa-learn mbox processing?

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Starr
I currently have mimedefang (2.37) and spamassassin (2.60) running on a RH9 mail gateway. Spamassassin is configured to block messages with a very high SA score and to tag and pass along everything else. I have two accounts set up, on an internal server, for users to forward received spam, and

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn process

2003-12-06 Thread Martin Radford
At Thu Dec 4 20:39:21 2003, Chris Thielen wrote: > > Vee Persaud said: > > Another, hopefully not dumb, sa-learn question. > > > > I am quarantining any email that has a score of 8.5 to 15. Should I just > > run sa-learn --spam on these messages ? > > > > Sounds reasonable to me. As long as yo

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Learn

2003-12-06 Thread Martin Radford
At Wed Dec 3 17:38:41 2003, Pedro Sam wrote: > > On December 03, 2003 12:07 pm, Tobin wrote: > > I recently trained SA-Learn and its working very well. The question I > > have is can I feed the 5 or 6 spams I get a day into SA-Learn without > > have to give it 1000+ ham\spam? I see in the documen

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn: what happened to --dir ?

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Batchelor
Awesome, yes it works that way for me, too. I read the man page and thought it had been deprecated --On Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:38 AM +1000 Peter Kiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So it defaults to folders already. So you would just need to do sa-learn --spam /var/tmp/spam and it s

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn: what happened to --dir ?

2003-12-05 Thread Peter Kiem
OK, just tried it without the --dir and it still works. further down in the man sa-learn you see this: "Simply run this command once for each of your mail folders, and it will 'learn' from the mail therein." So it defaults to folders already. So you would just need to do sa-learn --spam /var/

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn: what happened to --dir ?

2003-12-05 Thread Peter Kiem
> I have too many files to learn, so sa-learn craps out with "bad > interpreter: Too many arguments". I am invoking 2.60 like this: sa-learn > --spam -d /var/tmp/spam/* Too many files in /var/tmp/spam which overflows the shell expansion > I used to invoke 2.54 like this: sa-learn --spam --dir

[SAtalk] sa-learn: what happened to --dir ?

2003-12-05 Thread Mike Batchelor
I have too many files to learn, so sa-learn craps out with "bad interpreter: Too many arguments". I am invoking 2.60 like this: sa-learn --spam -d /var/tmp/spam/* I used to invoke 2.54 like this: sa-learn --spam --dir /var/tmp/spam What happened to the flag --dir ? That worked great in 2.54.

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn process

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > Another, hopefully not dumb, sa-learn question. > > I am quarantining any email that has a score of 8.5 to 15. Should I just > run sa-learn --spam on these messages ? > Sounds reasonable to me. -- Chris Thielen Easily generate SpamAssassin rules to catch obfuscated spam phra

[SAtalk] Sa-learn process

2003-12-04 Thread Vee Persaud
Another, hopefully not dumb, sa-learn question. I am quarantining any email that has a score of 8.5 to 15. Should I just run sa-learn --spam on these messages ? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in L

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > >> Please send the headers from both the first and the second messages. >> Without more information all anyone can do is wildly guess. >> > BEFORE sa-learn > X-Spam-Level: *** > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on > rocco.ncr.pwgsc.gc.ca > X

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:04 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: BEFORE sa-learn From: "Vee Persaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 AFTER sa-learn From: "Vee Persaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 requir

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:28 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: I was planning on just forwarding any suspect spam emails to an email account on my SA server and running it through sa-learn. I guess that this isn't the correct way to do it ??? No.. that is a *VERY* bad idea to do, because it will cause sa-learn to l

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
Matt Kettler wrote: > At 02:24 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: >> It got a score of 3.3. I ran sa-learn --spam on this message and >> now I get a score of 3.0 if I resend the message. I'm a bit >> confused. Did I do something wrong ??? > > How did you "resend" the message? > > If you "resen

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:24 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: It got a score of 3.3. I ran sa-learn --spam on this message and now I get a score of 3.0 if I resend the message. I'm a bit confused. Did I do something wrong ??? How did you "resend" the message? If you "resend" the message, merely by making a new

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
> Please send the headers from both the first and the second messages. > Without more information all anyone can do is wildly guess. > BEFORE sa-learn Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 18730 invoked by uid 197); 3 Dec 2003 18:59:54 - Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by rocco b

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get > rejected. The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day > lugpsxw". They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detect

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. > The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lugpsxw". > They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detection.

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Evan Platt
--On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:24 PM -0500 Vee Persaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. > The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lu

[SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lugpsxw". They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detection. It got a score of 3.3

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Learn

2003-12-03 Thread Pedro Sam
On December 03, 2003 12:07 pm, Tobin wrote: > I recently trained SA-Learn and its working very well. The question I > have is can I feed the 5 or 6 spams I get a day into SA-Learn without > have to give it 1000+ ham\spam? I see in the documentation a reference > to do something like this with the n

[SAtalk] SA-Learn

2003-12-03 Thread Tobin
I recently trained SA-Learn and its working very well. The question I have is can I feed the 5 or 6 spams I get a day into SA-Learn without have to give it 1000+ ham\spam? I see in the documentation a reference to do something like this with the no-rebuild option but Im still a bit confused. If s

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn

2003-12-03 Thread Heinz Ulrich Stille
On Friday 28 November 2003 20:08, Erwan Le Moing wrote: > my question is : > if someone send an spam mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], spamassassin will learn > to consider spam to non-spam . Set up a local dns server and use {spam,[EMAIL PROTECTED] or something like that. Or use @127.0.0.1. Of course t

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn

2003-11-29 Thread Øystein Gisnås
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 09:21:11PM +0100, Erwan Le Moing wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > > >At 02:08 PM 11/28/2003, Erwan Le Moing wrote: > > > >>I've just configured Spamassassin on my postfix system and add > >>autolearn : > >>an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send spam who pass through > >>

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn

2003-11-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:08 PM 11/28/2003, Erwan Le Moing wrote: I've just configured Spamassassin on my postfix system and add autolearn : an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send spam who pass through spamassassin an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send false positive mail Just a warning: Are you *sure* you are

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn

2003-11-28 Thread Erwan Le Moing
Matt Kettler wrote: At 02:08 PM 11/28/2003, Erwan Le Moing wrote: I've just configured Spamassassin on my postfix system and add autolearn : an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send spam who pass through spamassassin an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send false positive mail Just a warnin

[SAtalk] sa-learn

2003-11-28 Thread Erwan Le Moing
Hi all! I've just configured Spamassassin on my postfix system and add autolearn : an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send spam who pass through spamassassin an address [EMAIL PROTECTED] where i send false positive mail my question is : if someone send an spam mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], spamassas

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-28 Thread S. M. C. Butler
    -Original Message- From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:27 PM To: S. M. C. Butler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question Hello S., Thursday, November 27, 2003, 3:49:46 PM, you wrote: SMCB> * sa-learn --show

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello S., Thursday, November 27, 2003, 3:49:46 PM, you wrote: SMCB> * sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new SMCB> and got SMCB> . SMCB> Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined). SMCB> Did this work? Seems like it didn't.. It looks to me l

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:49 PM 11/27/03 -0800, S. M. C. Butler wrote: Ø sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new and got . Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined). Did this work? Seems like it didnt.. Yep, that means that SA has already learned all 37 messages i

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread S. M. C. Butler
  Hi, I ran the following     Ø   sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new   and got   . Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined).     Did this work? Seems like it didn’t..   FYI. This spam_new dir is an MH folder of spam tha

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and message format?

2003-11-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:47 PM 11/25/2003, Clive Dove wrote: When I run spamassassin in kmail, I scoop uncaught mail into a folder "zsa-learn-spam then when I run sa-learn, I use this command: $ sa-learn --spam --showdots ~/Mail/zsa-learn-spam/cur/ It then processes all the messages in that directory, ignoring the o

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and message format?

2003-11-25 Thread Clive Dove
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 14:31, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 01:43 PM 11/25/2003, Dan Tappin wrote: > >When I run sa-learn I only see the '1 message learned' output even thought > >I forwarded multiple messages to that mailbox. > > > >Any ideas / comments? > > sa-learn --mbox > > unless you add the

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn and message format?

2003-11-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:43 PM 11/25/2003, Dan Tappin wrote: When I run sa-learn I only see the '1 message learned' output even thought I forwarded multiple messages to that mailbox. Any ideas / comments? sa-learn --mbox unless you add the --mbox parameter, sa-learn expects a single rfc822 format message per file

[SAtalk] sa-learn and message format?

2003-11-25 Thread Dan Tappin
I am currently trying to implement bayes on my SA system. I was using spamcop before and I started using a spamcop reporting plug-in for my sa-learn reporting. I could configure the plug-in to redirect my spam, headers and all to the learning account of my choosing. I have just realized that t

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn crash and coredump

2003-11-24 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 10:58 21/11/2003 -0800, Ted Cabeen wrote: I'm getting a crash and core-dump when I try to run sa-learn -D --force-expire on my sizeable bayes database. Here's the output I get, and the backtrace from the core file. debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? no debug: using "/usr/l

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn scripts for mbox files

2003-11-24 Thread Mike Schrauder
aniel Sterling > > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn scripts for mbox files > > > > > > At 06:40 AM 11/23/03 -0500, Pedro Sam wrote: > > >On November 23, 2003 04:46 am, Daniel Sterling wrote: > > > > sa-learn > > > does not split messages apart itsel

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn scripts for mbox files

2003-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:40 AM 11/23/03 -0500, Pedro Sam wrote: On November 23, 2003 04:46 am, Daniel Sterling wrote: > sa-learn does not split messages apart itself (at least in version 2.60). sa-learn --mbox ? I second pedro's motion.. sa-learn DOES accept mbox files and split them appart itself, and has done so

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn scripts for mbox files

2003-11-23 Thread Pedro Sam
On November 23, 2003 04:46 am, Daniel Sterling wrote: > I wrote some small scripts to take an mbox file (like you would find in > /var/spool/mail), split the messages apart, and send them to sa-learn. > sa-learn does not split messages apart itself (at least in version 2.60). sa-learn --mbox ? -

[SAtalk] sa-learn scripts for mbox files

2003-11-23 Thread Daniel Sterling
I wrote some small scripts to take an mbox file (like you would find in /var/spool/mail), split the messages apart, and send them to sa-learn. sa-learn does not split messages apart itself (at least in version 2.60). Check it out at http://www.lost-habit.com/learnscripts.html . Nice if you have a

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