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it were entirely Bayes based.
BUT I LOVE SPAMASSASSIN!!!
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I must have gotten 20 of these in the last three hours! I'm going to have
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Wow. almost a dozen in very little time. Given how well bayes is
working, I might just disable the habeus mark test.
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Thanks - I'll send them off.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 05:18:30PM -0500, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > Just got a bunch of these myself. Are you suggesting that we simply
> > learn them as spam and ignore them otherwise and then let nature
Are you suggesting that we simply
learn them as spam and ignore them otherwise and then let nature take its
course? Or should I foward this stuff someplace.
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> > This is really more of a procmail question, but its part of the process.
> >
> > If I spot a certain string in the subject line, I'd like to stop the
> > process and let the mail through without invoking s
This is really more of a procmail question, but its part of the process.
If I spot a certain string in the subject line, I'd like to stop the
process and let the mail through without invoking spamassassin. Can anyone
clue me in as to how to do this?
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Something to help distinguish between a legit false negative and a
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During the install I got this error, not sure what it means.
t/spamd_portok
t/spamd_protocol_10.dubious
Test returned status -1 (wstat 139, 0x8b)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-10
Failed 10/10 tests, 0.00% okay
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, David B Funk wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> > > My bet is that your Bayes database got trashed.
> >
> > Possible, but which database? We have many users all with their own? Also,
> > if its a trashed Bayes db, why does t
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:52:17PM -0500, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > Possible, but which database? We have many users all with their own? Also,
> > if its a trashed Bayes db, why does the message go away when I restart
> > spamd?
>
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, David B Funk wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> >
> > My logs are flooded with the following message:
> >
> > Dec 8 16:55:39 argos spamd[83414]: Use of uninitialized value in numeric
> > eq (==) at /usr/local/lib/per
the current release. Does anyone have a clue as to what this is
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Well... I never say never, but I switched into the correct directory,
checked with -V and it looks good.
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> Jack Gostl writes:
> >
> >I need some help here guys.
> >
> >I have updated my Db to Ber
upgrade
db_verify: DB->open: bayes_seen: DB_OLDVERSION: Database requires a
version upgrade
Can someone steer me in the right direction?
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Based on the discussions here and elsewhere, I upgraded by db libs to the
current release, reinstalled DB_File, restarted spamd, and then just for
good measure wiped my Bayes files and my autowhitelist files and ran my
corpus through it.
Here is the output from the process, starting and ending wi
Who knows. Until a few weeks ago, the spam ran
around 250/day, its just jumped to almost 500. I figure its related to the
Christmas buying season.
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but last time it took several tries. Worse is that I wind up with a
significant number of false negatives before I even discover the problem.
Besides, this SHOULDN'T happen.
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Nope... no such luck.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Pedro Sam wrote:
> On November 30, 2003 07:55 am, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > Well... it happened again. My Bayes files are trashed. No explanation. All
> > values in "sa-learn --dump magic" come back zero. No messages of interest
&
t;unlink failed" messages, but
those aren't new. They happen all the time.
Last time this happened I had to rebuild the databases. This time I
thought I'd wait a bit to hear from people before I "destroyed" the
evidence.
Really is a very annoying problem with a firs
running
around 1 in 5,000, but I rigourously retrain my Bayes each night. I'm not
sure that my other users do the same.
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 01:16 PM 11/22/2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> >I thought I saw a reference to a letter that SA could automatically
> >generate upon enco
I thought I saw a reference to a letter that SA could automatically
generate upon encountering spam. I've got 2.60 installed, could someone
give me a pointer on how to create this letter.
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check the memory and only run spamc/spamd
> if there is enough. We already use procmail to deliver local
> e-mail. Does anyone know a procmailrc rule that we can put in that
> can check the amount of swapping that is currently taking place?
> My
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Chr. von Stuckrad wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:36:30PM -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > ... I ran out of space in the file system while doing an
> > sa-learn, and that was that.
>
> I got rid of that by creating a cronjob which does
> the sa-learn
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> If it times out, does spamd decline to markup the header? I would think
> that it would mark up with the score that it has, without the timed-out
> tests.
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> > By the way, there is an interesting article on "fighting back" by Paul
> > Graham called "Filters That Fight Back."
> >
> > http://www.paulgraham.c
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Colin A. Bartlett wrote:
> Jack Gostl Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:15 AM
>
> > All of which makes me wonder exactly who is motivated to fix this mess. I
> > suppose that any day now someone will say that spam is the engine of
> > economic recovery
anyone else seen this problem? Is
there a less painful way out of it?
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hat the messages have been learned,
but the counts don't update.
So right now my guess is that something in --rebuild is more path
sensitive than --ham or --spam. I've added an explicit "bayes_path" to my
user_prefs, and I've added a couple of &quo
the output from my "sa-learn --dump magic"
0.000 0 2 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0 1 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000 0 0 0 non-token data: nham
0.000 0
;ve hit the threshold yet? I used:
sa-learn --dump
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And Keyboard) My apologies for the confusion I've caused.
I still think the BAYES_99 should be below the cutoff, but I may change my
mind after watching this run with untainted Bayes data.
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> be training it with mail that reflects the type of mail you GET, not
> send. The headers are as crucial as the body.
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> -tom
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jack Gostl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:04 AM
>
By the way, when I say "caught", I'm passing in the spam, heaer and all,
that SpamAssassin caught. Maybe this is causing the problem.
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
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> > >to the end of my user_prefs, and I still get lots of high Bayes scores. Is
> > &
I did the initial training with my collection of "caught" spam and with my
current month's "sent-mail" plus one or two other folders of saved ham.
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Question withdrawn. The environment (as in $ENV{}) wasn't set up properly.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install DB_File so that we can use Bayes under 2.6, and
> during the install I keep getting:
>
> "version.c", line 30.10: 15
HER machine, it works
even though that machine also doesn't have a file called db.h
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days since I upgraded than I have seen in the entire time since
I started using SpamAssassin.
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During my first test run at an install, I got the following:
t/spamd_allow_user_rulesspamd start failed: log: Insecure directory in
$ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.6.0/Cwd.pm
line 85.
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<http://search.cpan.org/search?query=db_file&mode=all>
>
> More particularly, for Perl 5.0*,
>
> <http://search.cpan.org/~pmqs/DB_File-1.806/>
>
> and other URLs from that set of pages for Perl 5.8.0.
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>
> Note that you may want to replace the
>
> ( MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE || MIME_SUSPECT_NAME )
>
> with something else. Some SMTP gateways strip the actual executable
> out, but send the rest of the message on its way. In such a case,
> you still g
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Chris Barnes wrote:
> Jack Gostl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone have the URL to sign up with the SAProxy mailing list? This
> > program is driving me nuts. Runs like a champ, then just stops.
>
> This might be a dumb question, but what is SA
Anyone have the URL to sign up with the SAProxy mailing list? This program
is driving me nuts. Runs like a champ, then just stops.
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That's because the windows version of perl doesn't support alarms, so any
> DNS timeouts don't work, they just hang infinitely.
>
> It's one of the more well known limitations of ActivePerl that has a
> negative impact on SA under windows.
I didn't realize that.
nificantly improve the
reliability. I've seen problem with Net::DNS on Unix, but I didn't try
much under Windows. I'm using Active Perl. Maybe I should try another
perl.
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ferent bayes db, and they can't
> work around that centrally.
The problem I'm seeing is that I'm getting messages with a Bayes of 90%
but it still slips through with 4.5-5.
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> At 09:48 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> >What really worries me is the growing number of messages between 4.5 and
> >5. Many of these already have a Bayes score of 90+.
>
> Agreed, this is why rule development for
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 08:51 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
> >That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb.
>
>
> Even better, if you check my post from 6/14, most of these have a PGP
> signature block, but are without a "begin
le
> information left to base a good classification on.
I disagree. That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb. The
Bayes attack is tougher, but 3-5 lines of all lower case letters with no
punctuation would be a good start.
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determinative
refined
cornstarch amphibology apprise dreamlike
unusable obstacle commented ailerons misinformed refine monadic illicit
subsists gum RzneXtbfgyRzneXnetbfpbzc.pbzRzneX brigadoon clockwatcher
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> > A message just slipped through, no text, just an image. It slipped through
> > with a ridiculously low score, minus .6
>
> You know better by now :-) That's what you get for using SA 1.1
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igned messages every day. So i'd look
> into #2 -- but I dont have the time or energy to modify that much of
> spamassassin -- creating a class of 'spam only' rules, then doubling
> their points if they contain a PGP sig (valid or not)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday,
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There was also almost seven lines jibberish to throw of the Bayes
recognizer.
The fake signature was a cute idea. I think it has to be incorporated into
the scoring. I'm worried about the gibberish though.
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unt the number of
DIFFERENT companies. You might be surprised at how few there actually are.
I'd bet that if you shut down as few as ten of these companies you would
cut spam in half.
But we are now way, way, WAY off topic.
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> At 08:38 18/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> >I've seen this two or three times now, and I'm not sure what to make of
> >it.
> >
> >Outward appearance is that we get hit with a ton of spam, or perhaps that
the products could
be prosecuted on their own merits. (Or lack of same.) In fact, I just
looked at my current spam collection, I'd say that its closer to 80%. The
organ enlargers and Viagara fakes could be prosecuted with laws already on
the books, and spam levels would drop dramatic
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> At 20:54 22/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
>
> >On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:38 18/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > >
> > > >I've seen this two or thr
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Fuzzy Fox wrote:
> Jack Gostl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Using Pine, I checked the message ID and scanned the syslog (which
> > includes both spamd and sendmail entries) and located the message
> > being handed off to procmail. It
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> more insight set us straight?
>
> Thanks
> Ralf G.
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paging space and max process problems.
>
> Cheers
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troubleshoot this one.
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Jack Gostl wrote on Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:33:10 -0400 (EDT):
>
> > Using Pine, I checked the message ID and scanned the syslog (which
> > includes both spamd and sendmail entries) and located the message being
> > handed off to
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> At 21:54 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
> >On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> >
> > > At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
> > >
> > > >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-hea
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
> At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
>
> >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it,
> >and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17.
> >
> >By no
at was obviously
not processed
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Dan McDonald wrote:
> Jack Gostl writes:
>
> >> Yup - download the source and perform a manual install, just like
> >> you did with pop3proxy. Better documentation on how to do this is
> >> needed.
> >
> > Where do I get that?
>
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Jack Gostl wrote on Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:32:05 -0400 (EDT):
>
> > I've got pop3proxy from a site called perlmonk. Not sure if its
> > "official"
> >
>
> That's the old name of SAproxy, you shouldn'
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, Dan McDonald wrote:
> Stuart Gall writes:
>
> > Is SA Proxy different to pop3proxy ? I use pop3proxy very
> > successfully with windoze clients.
>
> SAProxy is the new name for pop3proxy. It's available as a binary
> build, and the sourc
> Yup - download the source and perform a manual install, just like you
> did with pop3proxy. Better documentation on how to do this is needed.
Where do I get that?
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> I was hoping to play with SAProxy this weekend. Is therre a way to use it
> with norton AV or is it one or the other?
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:31 AM
> > To: Jack Gos
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Dan McDonald wrote:
> Jack Gostl writes:
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> > I'm trying to get SAProxy working. According to the docs, I should
> > point my OE at 127.0.0.1, and then change my account to
> > "account_name:server". After I do this, I'm getting
nder if its a bad interaction with another
module or something. There seems to be alot of confusion about Net::DNS in
particular. But I did uninstall all of Active Perl, and then reinstalled,
tried two different releases.
Any other ideas?
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