[SAtalk] Warnings with Spamassassin 2.60 backport to Debian Woody

2003-12-19 Thread Denny Fox
perl -T -w whereas 2.55 uses just #!/usr/bin/perl. Is this something to be concerned about? If so, how can it be fixed? Other than the warning, spamassassin 2.60 backport seems to be working correctly. Thanks for any help! Please reply directly, I'm not subscribed to the l

[SAtalk] Byte count boosting evasion technique

2003-10-02 Thread Fox Flanders
I have been seeing 'byte count boosting' where spammers fill type emails with large sets of meaningless garbage (e.g 'asdlfkjl lksdjf lkajsdf') to up the byte count of their messages. This enrages me because I drop all messages with '

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin v3 ideas

2003-10-02 Thread Fox Flanders
I am wanting to write a framework with the features below for my corporation as an upgrade to our current spam blocking solution. I would suggest them as ideas for SpamAssassin v3. Create a framework where the message comes into the daemon and is translated to 'feeds' by 'feed modules' aka prepro

[SAtalk] Re: preventing blacklistes messages from impacting bayesian learning?

2003-09-08 Thread Fuzzy Fox
. It can be handled by procmail. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:Think

[SAtalk] Re: new rules for listwashing tokens,ROT-13 etc.

2003-09-06 Thread Fuzzy Fox
t; > q= > > r=A > > s== > > t=3 > > u=n > > v=N > > w=? > > x= x=* > > y=R > > z= > > 0= > > 1= > > 2= > > 3= > > 4= > > 5= > > 6= > > 7= > > 8= > > 9

[SAtalk] Re: Spam using invalid Mime headers to bypass SpamAssassin?

2003-08-26 Thread Fuzzy Fox
me corroborating evidence in the headers. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM

[SAtalk] Re: Setting up Spam Assassin Client side

2003-08-24 Thread Fuzzy Fox
imply ignore most of the time, and only check once a day, week, month, whatever time frame suits you. Just to make sure some mail wasn't lost or miscategorized. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. s

[SAtalk] Re: spamassassin install

2003-08-24 Thread Fuzzy Fox
boot when testing newly-implemented init scripts. That way, one can be certain that not only will the software continue to run until the next reboot, but it will also start up correctly next time the system boots. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experien

[SAtalk] Re: Creating rule for time accepted

2003-08-10 Thread Fuzzy Fox
ably want this: my $timeString = sprintf("%02d%02d", $hour, $min); This is some really great work, by the way. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --

[SAtalk] Re: whitelist_to (regex?)

2003-08-05 Thread Fuzzy Fox
match everything that ends in 'umd.edu' but does not # begin with '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Any ideas on how I would say this? :0 * ^From:.*umd\.edu * !^From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $DEFAULT -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment c

[SAtalk] Re: Mail arrival time may be a criteria

2003-08-05 Thread Fuzzy Fox
pam? This would become a separate score (positive or negative) in SA's normal scoring process. And Bayesian word-tokens would be a different, separate score as well. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone ||

[SAtalk] Re: SA cv6 2.60 - Bayes auto learn set by default?

2003-08-03 Thread Fuzzy Fox
Gary Funck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this an intentional choice by the developers to enable Bayes auto > learning by defualt? My recollection is that it has always been that way. What is the problem? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment c

[SAtalk] Re: spamd is not filtering mails properly

2003-08-03 Thread Fuzzy Fox
e" rules have been severely cut back in later versions, so you won't need to do that yourself. It's also possible that you are not using DNS tests. These tests can improve SA's ability to detect spam. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes fr

[SAtalk] Re: whitelist_to (regex?)

2003-08-03 Thread Fuzzy Fox
s directions depending on the presence of text in the headers, either paying attention or not to SA's decision on the mail. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David

[SAtalk] Re: Where can the newbies go?

2003-08-02 Thread Fuzzy Fox
o you will still see the occasional spam slip through. Folks are always working on new ideas for rules to detect these things, but it is a case of continuous improvement. At the moment, confronted with these types of spams, I'm not sure what SA could do to try and detect them. But someone will

[SAtalk] Re: Mail arrival time may be a criteria

2003-08-02 Thread Fuzzy Fox
] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Po

[SAtalk] Re: Want to turn off AWL (at least for my address)

2003-07-31 Thread Fuzzy Fox
the AWL? SA doesn't really know who the envelope sender was. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This SF.N

Re: [SAtalk] Trustic and Spamassassin?

2003-07-28 Thread Fox Flanders
I use version 2.55. Adding these three lines did the trick for me. Of course 999-99 will be whatever number you were assigned when you registered. header RCVD_IN_TRUSTIC eval:check_rbl('isp', '999-99.query.trustic.com') describe RCVD_IN_TRUSTIC score RCVD_IN_TRUSTIC 2.0 -

[SAtalk] Re: Want to turn off AWL (at least for my address)

2003-07-28 Thread Fuzzy Fox
s classifier may help weight spammy messages more, irrespective of who it appears to be from. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." ---

[SAtalk] Re: rule for X-Spam-Status -- Fails

2003-07-22 Thread Fuzzy Fox
is looking for "X-Spam-Status: Yes^M", and this fails to match, because the next character after "Yes" is "," and not "^M". -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. somet

[SAtalk] Re: Is spamc unbuffered?

2003-07-21 Thread Fuzzy Fox
fferent read/write programming model, where you use "select" to read and write both of your pipes in tandem (which is a lot of programming work for probably little gain). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment com

[SAtalk] Re: SpamAssassin Whitelisting when I don't want it to

2003-07-18 Thread Fuzzy Fox
forge his way past this. And I do not have to implement any whitelisting or blacklisting for my domain. In order for you to implement this, you should examine Received headers for your own site, and see if you can also determine a set of headers that only appear on externally-origin

Re: [SAtalk] Trouble training bayes ?

2003-07-18 Thread Fox Flanders
bayes filter. I suspect that maybe autolearn would work well if you had a sizable, modern and accurate corpus to start with and then autolearned from there. Fox - Original Message - From: "Simon Byrnand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Barry McLarnon" <[EMAIL PROTEC

[SAtalk] Re: SpamAssassin Whitelisting when I don't want it to

2003-07-17 Thread Fuzzy Fox
:0fw * < 256000 * ^Received: .*(my-external-gateway.fimble.com) spamc If you have multiple gateways through which mail can travel, simply include them all: :0fw * < 256000 * ^Received: .*((gateway1|gateway2|gateway3).fimble.com) spamc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy

[SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-17 Thread Fuzzy Fox
fw * < 256000 * ! ^X-Spam-Status: Yes | spamc If the message is already tagged as spam, then there is no need to process it again. Spammers who pre-tag their messages as spam are doing us all a favor. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment com

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes balance problem

2003-07-17 Thread Fox Flanders
had to re-write mine several times to give it enterprise features. It still takes about twenty fours for my 1.13 gigahertz server to crunch the 150,000 messages. Fox - Original Message - From: "Pierre Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursda

[SAtalk] Re: (OT) DSL/DIALUP manual BL Catch 22

2003-07-15 Thread Fuzzy Fox
e have not been problems. Although I had stopped using my ISP years ago, for some reason. But now I can send mail to my brother who uses RoadRunner. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as

[SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-14 Thread Fuzzy Fox
ount. If it gets to my account, then my > SWO> .procmailrc will end up putting it into my spam folder (which is > SWO> what I want). > > SWO> Any takers? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone ||

[SAtalk] Re: Why wil "sa-learn" not learn?

2003-07-13 Thread Fuzzy Fox
ne. What can be done to combat that? Of course, duplicate Message-ID's are a violation of RFC's, but spammers don't care. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad j

Re: [SAtalk] Custom Rules Forum? Listing?

2003-07-09 Thread Fox Flanders
Personally, I am in favor of a new list devoted to the discussion of rules. I don't and can't keep up with the volume of this list, but I am very interested in rule ideas and have a few I would like to discuss. Fox - Original Message - From: "Robert Menschel" &l

[SAtalk] Regexp Rule Question

2003-07-08 Thread Fox Flanders
I have a rule to find any 'a href' followed by an 'img src' later in the message, but I am getting nothing, which baffles me (and I am not a regex newbie). rawbody HTML_CLICKABLE_IMAGE /a href.*?img src/i score HTML_CLICKABLE_IMAGE 1.00 I am using SA 2.55 and have run the --lint check, and verifi

[SAtalk] Re: I'm new with spamassassin.... two questions

2003-07-04 Thread Fuzzy Fox
t this from happening, though replies won't be received to such a message. This has nothing to do with spamassassin, though... > I'm here to say thanks to all those people out there that gave me very > good helpnone what so ever...so thanks very much.. Please find enclosed,

[SAtalk] RFC - Blocking Based on Layout of HTML

2003-07-01 Thread Fox Flanders
Bayesian filtering and the cruft words they add at the bottom now. The more flexible and intelligent SA is though, the more difficult we can make it for spammers to construct spam. Fox Flanders --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-bu

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers sneaking lower Bayes scores

2003-06-26 Thread Fox Flanders
Declaration of Independence for a text/plain mime part to fool the Bayes filter. It is very effective at maiming my Bayes filter. Of course I could start dropping text/plain mime parts when there is a text/html part present. Fox - Original Message - From: "Daniel Quinlan" <[EM

[SAtalk] Pronouncability of Sender Address

2003-06-25 Thread Fox Flanders
We need a prounouncability test of the sender addresses. If it has a bunch of ixf38jk3 crud in it, it is more likely to be spam. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partn

[SAtalk] Re: spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how

2003-06-19 Thread Fuzzy Fox
rs ever examine bounces, or do any sort of management on their lists whatsoever. It would simply add to their costs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." ---

[SAtalk] Re: What is the best way to train sa-learn?

2003-06-19 Thread Fuzzy Fox
trange to me that you'd be in a hurry to get ahold of some. A few weeks is all you need to get yourself a couple hundred spams. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone

[SAtalk] Re: No X-Header

2003-06-18 Thread Fuzzy Fox
t you start one. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Develo

Re: [SAtalk] Help needed blocking HTML_IMAGE_ONLY emails

2003-06-17 Thread Fox Flanders
2.55 today, 2.54 yesterday. Fox - Original Message - From: "Tony Earnshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fox Flanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Help needed blocking HTML_IM

[SAtalk] Help needed blocking HTML_IMAGE_ONLY emails

2003-06-16 Thread Fox Flanders
, for instance HTML_IMAGE_ONLY, and REALLY_OBVIOUS_SPAM_ID_STRING. I will see what I can do to write said rules, but having never written SA rules, it may take me a while. Anybody already done this? Let me know. Thanks, Fox Flanders SpamAssassin Results: This mail is probably spam. The ori

[SAtalk] Re: adding a special "whitelist" via a local rule

2003-06-14 Thread Fuzzy Fox
tch this case, simply not call spam assassin for internal-only mails (which sounds like what you want). Speeds things up, too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experien

[SAtalk] Re: SA List (fwd)

2003-06-06 Thread Fuzzy Fox
s are seeing the same or similar (or different) behavior. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fuzzy Fox) || "Good judgment comes from experience. sometimes known as David DeSimone || Experience comes from bad judgment." --- This SF.ne

Re: [SAtalk] Auto-whitelist improvement ideas

2002-01-25 Thread Fox
sages, but sends a spam, its count goes back down to zero and it has to start all over again.   This works if you basically have two whitelists, one autogenerated and maintained by SpamAssassin, and a hand crafted one that is always whitelisted no matter what, for addresses you need to do this

[SAtalk] Undisclosed recipients

2002-01-17 Thread Fox
If I am getting spam with "Undisclosed recipients" in the header, how would the mail server (qmail) have known who to deliver it to had it not been spam? Or does the server (qmail) just choose to log messages with bcc's as undisclosed recipients even though it knows who the message is to? Are al