Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Martin Schroeder
[Please limit your line length to <=70 chars/line] On 2003-01-15 22:42:07 -, Stephane wrote: > exists today disappears ? With opensource you cannot have a > contractual engagement to provide support or updates, nor can > you really know the roadmap for a product and what is planned > for futur

Re: [SAtalk] SA gatewaying with LDAP user verification?

2003-01-15 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:32:01 -0600 SpamTalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both Imail and Exchange have LDAP capabilities and Sendmail (Amazon just > shipped me the 3rd edition Bat book that covers v8.12) seems to have LDAP > lookup. I think Exim might also have the capability. Exactly. It's an MTA

Re: [SAtalk] mail with ONLY html

2003-01-15 Thread Jason Haar
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 06:26:13PM +0100, Maxime Ritter wrote: > What I also figured out is that Outlook is unable to send a HTML mail > without plain text. That's why I wrote this rule : Not true at all. Outlook (via Exchange - pretty standard [the standard?!?! ;-)]) can have it's Internet Mail

Re: [SAtalk] Exim and Spamassassin - how to drop spam?

2003-01-15 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:24, Michael Andreasen wrote: > Exim & Spamassassin... I'm almost there, but ... > > I have both these applications working to the point that spam is being > detected and marked as such in the mail header. However, I'm not sure > how to get exim to drop these email, and the

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Lars Hansson
On 15 Jan 2003 22:42:07 - "Stephane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The goal for us is to tag emails (X-Spam-Flag) in a first step > and let the Notes client put tagged msgs into a separate folder (only saves > time, bandwidth and storage are still used). I think there might be a problem with

Re: [SAtalk] SA gatewaying with LDAP user verification?

2003-01-15 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:32, SpamTalk wrote: > I think Exim might also have the capability. I believe it does have this capability. I've been meaning to test it out. > What I would like to see is the ability of the gateway to use LDAP to > validate the recipient exists so that messages for non-ex

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Ray Dzek
This discussion could go on infinitum, but the bottom line is that there are plenty of "real" and significant companies that pre-maturely release "un-baked" products, do not release patches in the timely manner, and abandon products that large portions of their user base were perfectly happy with i

red/yellow, was Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread mis
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:13:26PM -0600, Jeremy Turner wrote: > Easy enough. I have my settings to not clobber HTML emails, and put > reports in the header. I use an MTA-level subject rewrite so that > emails within a certain spam range get classified as 'Yellow' or 'Red'. > Therefore, a spam

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread mis
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:42:07PM -, Stephane wrote: > Hello again, > > Amongst the answers to my previous post ("has a large company implemented SA") there >was a very good idea on success stories with SA... It is true that most of the people >on the net who would say they were happy with

[SAtalk] Exim and Spamassassin - how to drop spam?

2003-01-15 Thread Michael Andreasen
Exim & Spamassassin... I'm almost there, but ... I have both these applications working to the point that spam is being detected and marked as such in the mail header. However, I'm not sure how to get exim to drop these email, and then send an email to the sender informing them they *may* have spa

[SAtalk] SA gatewaying with LDAP user verification?

2003-01-15 Thread SpamTalk
Discussion of gateways in the "success stories" thread got me thinking. We are very much in the pilot stage with SA. We forward through a RH7.3 hardened with Bastille from an external Imail 7.1 server and a fire walled Exchange 5.5 server. Both Imail and Exchange have LDAP capabilities and Sendmail

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Help with a score rule

2003-01-15 Thread Christopher Eykamp
I use this: # This is a reformulation of standard test VERY_SUSP_RECIPS header SimilarToNames ToCc =~ /\b([a-z][a-z])[^@,<>\(\) ]{0,20}(@[-a-z0-9_\.]{2,4}).{0,80}?(?:\1[^@,<>\(\) ]{0,20}\2.{0,80}?){2,}/is describeSimilarToNames To: and Cc: contain similar use

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Robert J. Accettura
Replies within: Stephane wrote: Hello again, Amongst the answers to my previous post ("has a large company implemented SA") there was a very good idea on success stories with SA... It is true that most of the people on the net who would say they were happy with SA and that it worked well fo

RE: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Stewart, John
> Our infrastructure would look like: > Internet-->[SA]-->[Mailsweeper]-->[SMTP/Lotus Notes > gateway]-->Lotus Notes Mail reader on Client PC Our is: Internet-->[postfix gateway]-->[SA+amavisd-new]-->[Exchange] 20k-30k emails a day, not a huge site. In order to tag mail flowing through, I use

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Stephane, On 15 Jan 2003, Stephane wrote: > I think most companies are afraid of implementing opensource software as > a component for an important service such as email. I think that > generally even though people know email has not been designed to be a > 100% reliable protocol they still make

RE: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Andrew M. Hoying
We do internet <-> [SA/virus scanner gateway] <-> [sendmail server] <-> [exchange server] Some clients on the sendmail server, some on the exchange server. SA works great for us, 300 employees, 5000 messages a day to/from the internet (33-45% spam) Andrew > -Original Message- > From: Ste

Re: [SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread Evan Platt
At 02:10 PM 01/15/2003, you wrote: i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. please help We need to have a SA drinking game - SpamAssassin will not do the above. You'll need a procmail filter

Re: [SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:42, Stephane wrote: > Our infrastructure would look like: > Internet-->[SA]-->[Mailsweeper]-->[SMTP/Lotus Notes gateway]-->Lotus > Notes Mail reader on Client PC > Each bracketed text is a separate server, so SA would be a dedicated > relay, with no local mailboxes, just a

Re: [SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread Jeremy Turner
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:10, David Gladstone wrote: > i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a > response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. > please help 1. SpamAssassin doesn't actually do the sending of emails. This is handled by yo

Re: [SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread Matt Baxter
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:10:15PM -0500, David Gladstone wrote: > i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a > response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. > please help > -dave That is a Bad Idea. Since the To: and From: fields mean lite

Re: [SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread David Gladstone
both On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Olivier M. wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:10:15PM -0500, David Gladstone wrote: > > i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a > > response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. > > and to which address would y

[SAtalk] success stories with SA ?

2003-01-15 Thread Stephane
Hello again, Amongst the answers to my previous post ("has a large company implemented SA") there was a very good idea on success stories with SA... It is true that most of the people on the net who would say they were happy with SA and that it worked well for them are using it for their privat

Re: [SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread Olivier M.
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:10:15PM -0500, David Gladstone wrote: > i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a > response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. and to which address would you send the response ? The reply-to and from: addresse

Re: [SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:37:00AM -0500, Christopher Van Oosterhout wrote: > I guess the bottom line is ... if I want to add some spam phrases, how do I > determine the number that I should assign to it. I know it is a somewhat Warning: spam phrases are not in 2.50, so if you plan on upgrading

[SAtalk] responder

2003-01-15 Thread David Gladstone
i am a user of spamassassin and would like to have spamassassin send a response to the spammer and the recivere of the spam when it recives spam. please help -dave --- David Gladstone Data Center Manager Automated Financial Systems (212) 771-1927 cell: (718) 930-37

RE: [SAtalk] spamd with -u not working with exim

2003-01-15 Thread Segree, Gareth
Ok! guys I figured it out I did a spamd -L -S -i 0.0.0.0 -x -D -u mail and the following error message was returned fatal: Can't create /tmp/spamassassin-24759 at /usr/bin/spamd line 209. the permissions on /tmp was drwxrwx--t --- This SF.NET e

Re: [SAtalk] mail with ONLY html

2003-01-15 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 21:22, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 02:43:35PM -0500, Robert J. Accettura wrote: > > Spammers tend to use both HTML/TEXT since it still serves it's purpose > > as spam regardless of the client used. The exception being the ones > > that use really bad s

[SAtalk] Problem with 2.43 and DCC

2003-01-15 Thread hans
Hi All. I'm running SA 2.43 and I can't get DCC to run. It hangs spamd in the same spot everytime. I have the dcc path set, and debug says it finds dccprc. I think I've narrowed the trouble down to DNS.pm. cdcc 'info' works. I've included a code snippet. # use a temp file here -- open2()

[SAtalk] Problem with 2.43 and DCC

2003-01-15 Thread hans
Hi All. I'm running SA 2.43 and I can't get DCC to run. I think I've narrowed the ___ All emails incoming and outgoing from SBS Forestry Inc. are scanned by Kaspersky Antivirus. --- This SF

Re: Where 2.5 Stores What It Learns [WAS: Re: [SAtalk] Upgrading to 2.5]

2003-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
sabat said: > Since the 2.50 release is impending, can someone on the inside briefly > explain where the new Bayesian stuff stores what it "learns," and how > would this affect those of us running multiple mail servers? I notice > Theo mentioned something about the developers mulling over using

[SAtalk] Spamd won't start

2003-01-15 Thread Mike Burkhouse
Hi everyone. I just subscribed to this list because I couldn't find any information on Google for the issue I am having. I hope someone here can help. I have been running the following system for about 6 months: PIII 700 1 GB RAM - 30820 free Qmail 1.0.3 Qmail-scanner-1.13 Spamassassin-2.31 as

Re: Where 2.5 Stores What It Learns [WAS: Re: [SAtalk] Upgradingto 2.5]

2003-01-15 Thread Robert J. Accettura
If someone could explain a way to allow it to learn with Win XP (ActivePerl) and pop3proxy, I would appreciate it. sabat wrote: Since the 2.50 release is impending, can someone on the inside briefly explain where the new Bayesian stuff stores what it "learns," and how would this affe

Re: [SAtalk] Help with a score rule

2003-01-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 06:25:16PM +, Chris Willard wrote: > Is there a Perl expression that I can use that would count if the > number of "chris@" is greater than a given value (e.g. 3)? Actually 9 entries (the first, plus 8 others). You could use a similar RE to the SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS one.

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Help with a score rule

2003-01-15 Thread Chris Willard
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 7:47:04 PM, you wrote: TVD> On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 07:20:36PM +, Chris Willard wrote: >> There is very little text in the messages so they are missed by >> spamassassin. Is there a rule that I can use to spot when messages are >> addressed like this? TVD> You me

Where 2.5 Stores What It Learns [WAS: Re: [SAtalk] Upgrading to 2.5]

2003-01-15 Thread sabat
Since the 2.50 release is impending, can someone on the inside briefly explain where the new Bayesian stuff stores what it "learns," and how would this affect those of us running multiple mail servers? I notice Theo mentioned something about the developers mulling over using a database -- any

Re: [SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Christopher Van Oosterhout
Thanks Matt, I am not sure if I just do not understand your response ... or if I did not make the question clear enough. I am specifically interested in the role of the file 40_spam_phrases (snippet below). My question is: how does the numbers 38220 or 35710 associated with specific phrases

Re: [SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Christopher Van Oosterhout
Thanks Matt, I am not sure if I just do not understand your response ... or if I did not make the question clear enough. I am specifically interested in the role of the file 40_spam_phrases (snippet below). My question is: how does the numbers 38220 or 35710 associated with specific phrases

Re: [SAtalk] FW: [expert] Spamassassin + CommuniGate Pro config

2003-01-15 Thread Stefan Seiz
On 13.01.2003 9:00 Uhr, Nick Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone is using spamassassin with CommuniGate Pro together would someone > please send me some configuration files or some a howto on getting them to > work. If they go in more than one place zip them in the file structure in the

Re: [SAtalk] Upgrading to 2.5

2003-01-15 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:17:25PM -0800, JP Kelly wrote: > I am runningv2.43 and I am looking forward to upgrading to 2.5. > I am running it on OS X with exim. > I would like to upgrade via CPAN. > What is the likelihood of the upgrade breaking my configuration? > How different is 2.5 from 2.43.

Re: [SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Matt Kettler
The "value" is assigned by the same mass-check process that all the rules are scored by. There is absolutely no simple relationship between the two, and the score is the result of analysis of real patterns existing in real email. I'm going to gloss over some details of the mass-check and GA pro

Re: SA tags (was: Re: [SAtalk] UebiMiau Spam)

2003-01-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:31:38PM +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > btw: what happens if an incoming mail already contains typical SA > tags, either because the outgoing message was scanned by SA or a > spammer forges those headers? Does SA add its own (double headers), > does it replace these heade

[SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Christopher Van Oosterhout
Greetings All, I am new to SpamAssassin and hope that this question was not recently asked or covered by obvious documentation. If in fact there is documentation (I searched but did not yet find) to cover this, please point me to it). I am trying to find the relationship between the "value" a

SA tags (was: Re: [SAtalk] UebiMiau Spam)

2003-01-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Martin Radford wrote on Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:04:37 + (GMT): > FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA > btw: what happens if an incoming mail already contains typical SA tags, either because the outgoing message was scanned by SA or a spammer forges those headers? Does SA add its own (double headers), does it r

[SAtalk] SpamPhrases - How are scores calculated

2003-01-15 Thread Christopher Van Oosterhout
Greetings All, I am new to SpamAssassin and hope that this question was not recently asked or covered by obvious documentation. If in fact there is documentation (I searched but did not yet find) to cover this, please point me to it). I am trying to find the relationship between the "value" a

Re: [SAtalk] NOTICE: extra info about current mass-check run

2003-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
In case sf.net CVS is still down for anonymous use, I've tarballed the *new* CORPORA_SUBMIT_VERSION_2_5_0_CHECK1 tag, here: http://spamassassin.taint.org/devel/special/SUBMIT_2_5_0_CHECK1.tar.gz use this if you can't get through to anon CVS. --j.

Re: [SAtalk] mail with ONLY html

2003-01-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Robert J. Accettura wrote on Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:38:39 -0500: > Problem is, outside this techie world, life isn't like that. > Well, but life is like that most spam is HTML (either only or text+HTML) and most legitimate mail is NOT HTML. I've not seen any proof against that yet. As Theo states

Re: [SAtalk] has a large company implemented spamassassin ?

2003-01-15 Thread Julian Field
At 22:20 14/01/2003, you wrote: On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 19:13:26, you wrote: I would be interested in knowing if there is a similar large company (> 5000 mailboxes) having successfully implemented spamassassin in order to share the experience -- we had a successful pilot running and would l

Re: [SAtalk] two subject lines...

2003-01-15 Thread goudal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Evan Platt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:10 +0100 > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] two subject lines... >>> >>>I have a strange behavior with sendmail 8.12.3 spamassassin 4.43 and >>>spamassassin-milter 0.1.2 The problem is solved with the

Re: [SAtalk] two subject lines...

2003-01-15 Thread goudal
Evan Platt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:43:47 PST > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] two subject lines... >At 06:58 AM 1/14/2003, you wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I have a strange behavior with sendmail 8.12.3 spamassassin 4.43 and >>spamassassin-milter 0.1.2 >>I have configured spamassassin wi