Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin with Postrges under Cygwin

2002-06-14 Thread Jim.George
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Jim.George wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm new to the list and need some help please. > > I've been happily using Spamassassin for several months under > Cygwin (Linux under Win2K), and previously under Linux itself. So with > this confidence in the package I thought

Re: [SAtalk] [perl Q] As regards grabbing folded Header lines

2002-06-14 Thread reader
Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > use Mail::Header; > > foreach my $message (@files) { > open(FILE, "<$dir/$message") or next; What is the significance of the * preceding file_handle? Or is it something being handed into a function? Does it just hand each file in... > my $header =

Re: [SAtalk] [perl Q] As regards grabbing folded Header lines

2002-06-14 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have worked out a painstaking way that will work (at least in my > tests so far), but wanted to see a better way with some of that > obfuscated but powerfull code perl is famous for. Does it _have_ to be obfuscated? > #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w > #

[SAtalk] [perl Q] As regards grabbing folded Header lines

2002-06-14 Thread reader
If this is OT, someone holler, it does apply to spamassassin directly but is actually more perl questions. Theo posted an answer[1] to this query already, but it largely flew over my thick skull. (Sorry Theo). See this message for the above reference[1]: From: Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 14 June 2002 06:45 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Some quick answers (then I'm going home to sleep) Sleep. Sleep is good. ;-) > The Outlook contacts import-to-whitelist feature is almost certainly > going to make it into 1.0, as will some toolbar buttons for > "Spam/Not Spam" which user

[SAtalk] (new) ratware

2002-06-14 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
A message slipped past SA on debian.org and on my system : http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/msg02363.html The funniest part of the message is that it is spam from a windows programmer (spamware author) asking looking for permanent employment. Like he'll find it by spa

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Dial-a-FAQ by Matt Cline :) Some quick answers (then I'm going home to sleep) Matthew Cline wrote: MC> I'm an editor at the Open Directory Project, so I'll submit the DeerSoft URL MC> to the appropriate category. To do that, I need to know if SpamAssasin Pro MC> is shareware or just normal pr

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 14 June 2002 06:27 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Matthew Cline wrote: > > MC> On Friday 14 June 2002 05:49 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > MC> > MC> > Viking: spam song > MC> > Dentist: Tooth hurty > MC> > MC> Spam hurts your teeth? > > Think about it. Right, as Phydeaux pointed out: > No, t

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
I'm an editor at the Open Directory Project, so I'll submit the DeerSoft URL to the appropriate category. To do that, I need to know if SpamAssasin Pro is shareware or just normal proprietary software. Also, there's a bunch of sites under http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Abuse/Spam/ that sh

[SAtalk] Oops. Bad MANIFEST fixed.

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Ok, I think I've fixed the MANIFEST problems now, so if you already grabbed 2.30 and it failed for you, try again now and you should be OK. C ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las V

RE: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ? l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
You're missing that the MANIFEST was screwed up in the original tarball I uploaded. *sigh* I think I've now finally fixed it, aftger only 4 attempts. I'll push out a new annoucement. C Kevin O'Brien wrote: KO> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:06:52 -0700 KO> From: Kevin O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Matthew Cline wrote: MC> On Friday 14 June 2002 05:49 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: MC> MC> > Viking: spam song MC> > Dentist: Tooth hurty MC> MC> Spam hurts your teeth? Think about it. C ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application

RE: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ? l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I keep getting the following when I try to run make: /usr/local/bin/perl fixpath.pl spamassassin.raw spamassassin chmod 755 spamassassin mkdir -p doc make: *** No rule to make target `spamd/spamc.pod', needed by `doc/.made'. Stop Here's the contents of spamd/: debian-rc-script.sh README.spamd

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 14 June 2002 05:49 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Viking: spam song > Dentist: Tooth hurty Spam hurts your teeth? -- Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. ICQ: 132152059

[SAtalk] Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆl'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Phydeaux
At 05:36 PM 6/14/2002 -0700, Matthew Cline wrote: >> SpamAssassin 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) Released! >> --- > >Viking dentist a l'orange? OK, I guess you incoprorated my "Vikings singing >the Spam song" into the name, plus the "

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Matthew Cline wrote: MC> On Friday 14 June 2002 04:46 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: MC> MC> > Ok, 2.30 is now official. MC> MC> > SpamAssassin 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) Released! MC> > --- Viking: spam song Dentist: Tooth hurty a l

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 14 June 2002 04:46 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Ok, 2.30 is now official. > SpamAssassin 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) Released! > --- Viking dentist a l'orange? OK, I guess you incoprorated my "Vikings singing the Spam s

Re: [SAtalk] [SA-announce] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Shit. There was supposed to be all sorts of stuff in the MANIFEST which is missing for some reason. Basically, pretty much everything from the base directory -- including spamassassin.raw, Makefile.PL and a bunch of other stuff. I'm working on it. ETA: real soon. C Brian May wrote: BM> Was t

Re: [SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 04:46:56PM -0700, Craig R Hughes wrote: > Ok, 2.30 is now official. > > SpamAssassin 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) Released! > --- > Minor problem. It doesn't contain Makefile.PL. (Or at least mine didn't. We

Re: [SAtalk] [SA-announce] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Brian May
Was there supposed to be a Makefile.PL is the tar.gz file? Brian - Original Message - From: "Craig R Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [SAtalk] [SA-announce] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam Press Release SOURCE: Deersoft, I

[SAtalk] Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Press Release SOURCE: Deersoft, Inc. Deersoft Emerges to Combat Spam PALO ALTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 12, 2002--Spam, unwanted and offensive email, is an overwhelming problem that many see getting worse every day. Spam not only wastes individuals' valuable time and attention every time t

[SAtalk] Release 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) announcement

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Ok, 2.30 is now official. SpamAssassin 2.30 (Viking dentist ˆ l'orange) Released! --- Here's the super-brief summary of the major changes from 2.20: * Rule Fixes/Updates/Additions * Bugfixes/Typofixes * Speed improvements * New options

Re: [SAtalk] Fw: [Razor-users] Announce: Vipul's Razor v2

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Not fully judged that way yet -- still about 5 minutes until 2.30 is released! C Duncan Findlay wrote: DF> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 06:11:41PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: DF> > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Simon Lyall wrote: DF> > DF> > Does the latest release of spamassassin support Razor v2 now? DF>

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin with large email providers...?

2002-06-14 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 12:26:23PM -0700, Jeff Campbell wrote: > Are there any similar web hosts or ISPs currently using SpamAssassin in > a production environment? Smaller but still significantly sized web > hosts or ISPs? I personally would really like to see us provide this to > our customer

[SAtalk] Spamassassin with Postrges under Cygwin

2002-06-14 Thread Jim.George
Hi folks, I'm new to the list and need some help please. I've been happily using Spamassassin for several months under Cygwin (Linux under Win2K), and previously under Linux itself. So with this confidence in the package I thought I'd improve things by linking in the database op

Re: [SAtalk] Fw: [Razor-users] Announce: Vipul's Razor v2

2002-06-14 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 06:11:41PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Simon Lyall wrote: > > Does the latest release of spamassassin support Razor v2 now? > No. Integration was judged to be too unstable for us to release razor v2 support. I believe razor1 modules are still incl

Re: [SAtalk] Obfuscation escalation

2002-06-14 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 14 June 2002 04:17 am, Bill Becker wrote: > We may need expanded rules to handle obfuscation. The following > javascript decodes into another obfuscation javasscript. I didn't have > time to persue it further (what the sender is counting on i suppose)... [snip] > ...the body part of

Re: [SAtalk] Cyrillic encoding raises the spam level to 3.8

2002-06-14 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Craig R Hughes writes: > 2.30 coming Real Real Real Soon now! I'm just working through some > last second packaging issues. Please create a 2.3 branch before you release 2.30! It will make it much easier for us to release a 2.31 (maintenance release with critical fixes) if we can do it from th

Re: [SAtalk] Cyrillic encoding raises the spam level to 3.8

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
2.30 coming Real Real Real Soon now! I'm just working through some last second packaging issues. C Matt Sergeant wrote: MS> Daniel Quinlan wrote: MS> > Michael Moncur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> > MS> > MS> >>I think the problem is simple: We have a SUBJ_FULL_OF_8BITS rule for 8-bit MS> >>

[SAtalk] spam filtering in high-volume environments

2002-06-14 Thread Rob Winters
Is there any performance data available on large or high-volume SA installations? Any tuning recommendations for installing SA in such environments? Any commercial alternatives that might perform better? Thanks for any info! Off-list replies are fine. /// Rob _

[SAtalk] spamd+SQL preferences

2002-06-14 Thread Dmitry Sorokin
Hi, I have spamd in background and spamass-milt+sendmail. All user preferences are stored in pgsql DBMS. The problem is that each time spamd checking message it takes preferences of user root for ANY e-mail message. I'm running spamd under root account with switches -a -x -q -D Does anybody kno

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Re: Re: C version

2002-06-14 Thread Craig R Hughes
Sean Rima wrote: SR> Actually RAM has always been a problem for me because it is not that SR> cheapo here, it pees me off when people say that they can get a strip SR> for $20 when I would be looking at 150+ :( Plus 17.5% VAT no doubt ;) C _

Re: [SAtalk] Time::HiRes

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:17:52PM -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote: > In SpamAssassin.pm I see: > > # Let's not make this required -- Marc > #eval { require Time::HiRes }; > #Time::HiRes->import( qw(time) ) unless $@; > # Unfortunately, the above doesn't work, please FIXME > use Time::HiRes qw ( time

[SAtalk] Dumb NoMailAudit questions

2002-06-14 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
I'm trying to use SA with the NoMailAudit module in place of Mail::Audit, and am discovering that NMA doesn't have some of the basic MA methods. For example, if I have: my $mail = Mail::SpamAssassin::NoMailAudit->new(); if ($mail->to =~ /mysql\@lists/) { ... I get 'Can't locate object m

Re: [SAtalk] Newbee's question: seem long to check an email, and spamd

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 04:36:06PM -0400, Weidong Wang wrote: > Hi, I just installed spamassassin, as it looks very promising. > > One thing I noticed is that checking a mail (the sample-spam.txt one, 4K) > one takes over 1 minute. At first I thought it is razor, as I noticed during > "make test"

Re: [SAtalk] Fw: [Razor-users] Announce: Vipul's Razor v2

2002-06-14 Thread Simon Lyall
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > This all looks really quite interesting. Though I wonder if the load of > all the extra work now being down will kill them... (especially without > the server being released/available). Are they intending to release the server at all? I was intending to

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin with large email providers...?

2002-06-14 Thread Pete Hanson
At 06/14/2002 11:26, Jeff Campbell wrote: >Mainly, our worries fall into the realm of load. >Are there any similar web hosts or ISPs currently using SpamAssassin in >a production environment? Smaller but still significantly sized web >hosts or ISPs? We handle about 1/2 million incoming mail

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin with large email providers...?

2002-06-14 Thread Jeff Campbell
Hello, I'm looking into the feasibility of offering SpamAssassin support to the customers of a mid sized web hosting operation (~15,000 customers). We all use it internally - and there is little question as to its effectiveness in dealing with the problem - but there is concern that running i

Re: [SAtalk] spamass -> SA or SpamAssassin

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:18:52PM -0500, matthew ward wrote: > i'm using the spamass milter. Is the milter actually called "spamass" ? Would someone ask the author if he/she'd consider using SA or SpamAssassin. Spam_ASS_ just doesn't sound like a great abbreviation... Marc -- "A mouse is a d

Re: [SAtalk] SA with Exim

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 08:31:17AM -0500, Saul Guttman wrote: > Hi, > > I have Exim with SA running at SMTP time. I am testing this to see if I Since there's lots of mail here already, you're probably better off using the sa-exim list http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/sa-exim so that we

Re: [SAtalk] MySQL/PHP Interface to SpamAssassin

2002-06-14 Thread Alec Grynspan
At 10:59 AM 12/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: >You can drop it in the ftp space, I didn't even think about that :-) Your php/mysql interface is now accessible at ftp.ftn.org - anonymous mode and will be immediately visible when you ftp there. ----- Alec

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Re: Re: spamc message size limits

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:14:54PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > | >Subject: ?? > ^^ > It's not a valid message. No RFC allows 8bit characters in message > headers. Recent postfix snapshots have a strict_7bit_headers option > to

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Re: Re: C version

2002-06-14 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Matt Sergeant told this: >>>Actually, you can get a 128MB EDO stick for about $20 -- comparable >>>to DRAM. So just eat at home tonight instead of going out, and buy >>>yourself some extra memory. Those wonderful Koreans and T

Re: [SAtalk] Stalling Spammers at SMTP time.

2002-06-14 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:15:58PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:03:54PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:40:17PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > > > I think I'm also going to add an option to just stall the SMTP > > > connection and never retur

[SAtalk] spamass milter and spamd (site-wide config) question

2002-06-14 Thread matthew ward
i'm using the spamass milter. but i'm using it on a step-through (relay-in) sendmail system, NOT on the system that receives email for local delivery. is there any way to utilise the spamd methodology when i don't have procmail involved (at this relay level)? -- /"\

Re: [SAtalk] spamd/spamc.c:62: EX__MAX undeclared

2002-06-14 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:22:03PM +0200, Mark De Moor wrote: > Hi, > I'am trying to install SpamAssassin on my HP-UX 11i (11.11) with > gcc 3.02, sendmail 8.12.4 and get the following error: > > gcc -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L -D_HPUX_SOURCE -L/lib/pa1.1 > -DUINT32_MAX_BROKEN -mpa-risc-1

[SAtalk] Re: Obfuscation escalation

2002-06-14 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 07:17:45AM -0400, Bill Becker wrote: | | We may need expanded rules to handle obfuscation. The following | javascript decodes into another obfuscation javasscript. I didn't have | time to persue it further (what the sender is counting on i suppose)... | | | Subscribe f

[SAtalk] I am having some problems with the spamphrase

2002-06-14 Thread jean dupond
Hi, I couldn't find any information about how the spamphrase are working in the archives so here is my question: I am running spamassassin throught mimedefang for a whole site. But i never get a score or even a hit for any of the spamphrases in my configuration file. I am wondering what is going

[SAtalk] spamd/spamc.c:62: EX__MAX undeclared

2002-06-14 Thread Mark De Moor
Hi, I'am trying to install SpamAssassin on my HP-UX 11i (11.11) with gcc 3.02, sendmail 8.12.4 and get the following error: gcc -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L -D_HPUX_SOURCE -L/lib/pa1.1 -DUINT32_MAX_BROKEN -mpa-risc-1-1 -fPIC -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_

Re: [SAtalk] Replying to list???

2002-06-14 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On 13 Jun 2002 the voices made Daniel Quinlan write: > It might be as simple as hitting "f". Personally I just hit reply and then let the user sort it out; he could try a no-reply-to(ish) header, set reply-to himself or simply deal with the duplicates like I do (procmail). It isn't the replye

[SAtalk] Obfuscation escalation

2002-06-14 Thread Bill Becker
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