Hi folks,
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Robert Miller wrote:
>
> All known issues have been fixed, and all long doctests pass on
> sage.math (* -- see below), so there is a chance this could be
> sage-4.1.
>
> The source tarball:
>
> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.
Hi William,
On 07/07/09 23:43, William Stein wrote:
>> I feel embarrassed posting this (since others seem to be able to build
>> sage on bsd.math) but I've run into a problem building sage-4.0.2 on
>> bsd.math. I've tried twice and both times maxima fails to build with
>> the following error:
>
On 07/08/09 10:56, Ondrej Certik wrote:
>> I'll rebuild VTK on my mac tonight and check how that works.
>
> Many thanks for the update and for working on it. If it cannot be used
> offscreen, then I think it's a showstopper, that will create Mac a
> second class platform, that is incapable of hos
All known issues have been fixed, and all long doctests pass on
sage.math (* -- see below), so there is a chance this could be
sage-4.1.
The source tarball:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.rc1.tar
sage.math binary:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/releas
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Prabhu
Ramachandran wrote:
>
> On 07/01/09 03:22, Ondrej Certik wrote:
>>> If you have questions about this, I would simply join the visit users list:
>>>
>>> https://email.ornl.gov/mailman/listinfo/visit-users
>>
>> Thanks for this, I'll have a look at how to fix/
Hi Craig, Carl, Robert, David, Franco, Burcin,
About #5985 [with patch, needs review] cPickle: adds support for class pickling
customization
What's the status on this one? I though that the bottom line of the
discussion at SD15 for this one (not to be mixed up with #5986) was that:
-
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> so let's start the notebook as a separate project? I would of course
>> prefer if Mike could do that, but if he's busy, I'll try to at least
>> start it.
>
> Unfortunately,
Dear David Kohel,
Can I be of any help for the reviewing of the category patch? Do you
have a timeline for your progress on this?
Best,
Nicolas
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 08:58:34AM -0700, Nicolas Thiéry wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:29:47PM +0
Dear William, dear category fans,
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:33:11AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
> >> To do this, could somebody ASAP build sage-4.1.rc0.tar, pull and
> >> rebase all the *-combinat stuff against it?
Done.
One thing though: #5882 just changed the category of a category t
On Jul 7, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Martin Rubey wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to try to build constructively on the following statement
> and reply:
>
> William Stein writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, rjf wrote:
>>>
>>> In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think, is
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM, William Stein wrote:
>> In new symbolics, if I do the same I get
>>
>> sage: g
>> D[0](f)(x)
>> sage: g.subs_expr(f(x)==f(x)+df(x))
>> D[0](f)(x)
>> -
>>
>> Is there a way to do this in new symbolics? It seems
>> to be a road block in implemen
Me too. It has made me so much trouble. I guess I can only delete the
jsmath font for now.
On Jul 4, 7:56 am, Andrzej Giniewicz wrote:
> Same here... today I upgraded and had to set to image fonts explicitly
> injsmathoptions
>
> On 2 Lip, 10:03, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>
> > On 2009-Jul-01 01:21:5
2009/7/4 NoSyu :
>
> Hello.
>
> I use Sagemath to show the Linear Algebra problems solution.
>
> And I am Korean.
>
> Therefore I write the title in Korean.
>
> http://nosyu.pe.kr/attach/1/5682987737.png
>
>
> But in worksheet, the title is broken because of truncated_name
> function in worksheet
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Leonard Foret wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This is my first time in sage-devel. I have a project with a
> professor til the end of August to construct cocompact/uniform
> lattices on SL2(Z[i]) basically by quaternion algebras.
What is a "lattice on SL2(Z[i])"?
> I
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Dag Sverre
Seljebotn wrote:
>
> Jason Grout wrote:
>> Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
>>> 1) I must be able to use NumPy together with the preparser (it's just
>>> too much hassle to turn it on and off, and it kind of defeats the
>>> purpose.). That is, with the prepars
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Golam Mortuza
Hossain wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It seems none of the current substitute methods for symbolic
> expressions works for the argument of the derivative operator.
>
> In computing functional derivative, I need to vary
> a functional. For example, in sage-3.4
On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Ryan Hinton wrote:
>
> On the other hand, I've never found a bug in Matlab. And with the
> tools
> I have found bugs (still _much_ less often than with Sage), it takes
> much less of my time: I don't have to dig through source code that
> someone else wrote, find,
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Simon King wrote:
>
> Dear sage devel,
>
> currently I am writing a test suite for my cohomology spkg. In the
> Developer's Guide, I read:
>
> spkg-check: this file runs the test suite. This is somewhat optional
> since not all spkgs have test suites. If possible d
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> so let's start the notebook as a separate project? I would of course
> prefer if Mike could do that, but if he's busy, I'll try to at least
> start it.
Unfortunately, Mike seems to be MIA for the last few weeks, from my
point of vie
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Shaun Ault wrote:
>
> Armand Brumer asked me to email you about this sage problem he is
> experiencing. I've taken a look at it myself and have no idea what's
> going on. We have a clean installation of sage 4.0.1 on an iMac with
> Intel Core 2 Duo running Mac OS
Armand Brumer asked me to email you about this sage problem he is
experiencing. I've taken a look at it myself and have no idea what's
going on. We have a clean installation of sage 4.0.1 on an iMac with
Intel Core 2 Duo running Mac OS X 10.5.7. What happens is that a call
to sage will unexpect
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Robert Miller wrote:
> William,
>
> Have you heard of this?
>
> http://bitnami.org/
I don't know if I have heard of that. I had a lot of trouble
getting any clue what precisely bitnami really is after browsing their
site for 10 minutes just now.
> It sounds a
I made some other copies on Lulu, with more elaborate covers, of all
the documentation, for the 2009 joint meetings. I have been planning
on doing that again with the new docs but haven't gotten around to it.
-Marshall
On Jul 6, 10:25 pm, Jason Grout wrote:
> William Stein wrote:
>
> >> * No g
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:33:11AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Nicolas M.
> Thiery wrote:
> >
> > Dear William,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:00:00AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Anne Schilling
> >> wrote:
> >> > L
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Martin
Rubey wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to try to build constructively on the following statement
> and reply:
>
> William Stein writes:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, rjf wrote:
>>>
>>> In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think
Dear all,
I would like to try to build constructively on the following statement
and reply:
William Stein writes:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, rjf wrote:
>>
>> In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think, is that
>> significant pieces of the implementation apparently cons
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:22 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Dag Sverre
> Seljebotn wrote:
>>
>> William Stein wrote:
>>> Perhaps I'm missing the point, but I'm taking this as a message to
>>> focus in Sage more on the algebraic/symbolic side of mathematics
>>> (e.g., Ma
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Nicolas M.
Thiery wrote:
>
> Dear William,
>
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:00:00AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Anne Schilling wrote:
>> > Let me reiterate Nicolas' message that it would be really
>> > great to have his categ
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:24 AM, rjf wrote:
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 10:25 am, William Stein wrote:
> ...
>>
>> I agree that having a component of Sage whose source code is visibly
>> difficult for Sage developers to work with is a disadvantage of Sage,
>> and one we should fix (by not using said compon
Dear William,
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:00:00AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Anne Schilling wrote:
> > Let me reiterate Nicolas' message that it would be really
> > great to have his category code (and hopefully the root system
> > and affine crystal patc
On Jul 7, 10:25 am, William Stein wrote:
...
>
> I agree that having a component of Sage whose source code is visibly
> difficult for Sage developers to work with is a disadvantage of Sage,
> and one we should fix (by not using said component).
>
> It's hard to tell whether or not this is a dis
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Bjarke Hammersholt
Roune wrote:
>
>> I very strongly agree that such a limitation is a major problem.
>> The only way I can think of to deal with it, is if any such exponent
>> appears, we switch to the polydict (nonsingular) representation, and
>> everything gets w
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Prabhu
Ramachandran wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I feel embarrassed posting this (since others seem to be able to build
> sage on bsd.math) but I've run into a problem building sage-4.0.2 on
> bsd.math. I've tried twice and both times maxima fails to build with
> the followi
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:25 AM, William Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, rjf wrote:
>>
>> In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think, is that
>> significant pieces of the implementation apparently consists of pieces
>> of code that are used as black boxes, and that
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Robert Dodier wrote:
>
> On Jul 6, 6:16 am, Burcin Erocal wrote:
>
>> I'm reluctant to expose this functionality by default in Sage, since
>> Maxima returns wrong results for certain input:
>>
>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3587#comment:9
>
> Looks li
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Anne Schilling wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Let me reiterate Nicolas' message that it would be really
> great to have his category code (and hopefully the root system
> and affine crystal patches) integrated into Sage before FPSAC
> which starts in less than two weeks from no
Bill Hart wrote:
>> >
>>> > > * Releases happen so frequently that IT depts. cannot hope to
keep up
>>> > > with installing the latest releases.
>> >
>> > I wonder how much more often Sage releases are than iTunes releases?
>> > I just checked and our releases are maybe about twice as freq
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, rjf wrote:
>
> In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think, is that
> significant pieces of the implementation apparently consists of pieces
> of code that are used as black boxes, and that the Sagemeisters
> proudly disavow knowledge of. Thus a bu
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Dr. David
Kirkby wrote:
>
> William Stein wrote:
>> Here is a talk I gave that was about many of the many features Magma
>> has that Sage doesn't have:
>> http://wstein.org/talks/20090609-sage_and_magma/
>>
>> Below I'll make a few remarks just because they occurr
On 07/01/09 03:22, Ondrej Certik wrote:
>> If you have questions about this, I would simply join the visit users list:
>>
>> https://email.ornl.gov/mailman/listinfo/visit-users
>
> Thanks for this, I'll have a look at how to fix/patch VTK to build on
> Mac. I think Prabhu has a commit access, so
In terms of support, one major disadvantage of Sage, I think, is that
significant pieces of the implementation apparently consists of pieces
of code that are used as black boxes, and that the Sagemeisters
proudly disavow knowledge of. Thus a bug traced to Maxima is
unfixable "until we rewrite Max
Hi,
I feel embarrassed posting this (since others seem to be able to build
sage on bsd.math) but I've run into a problem building sage-4.0.2 on
bsd.math. I've tried twice and both times maxima fails to build with
the following error:
$ cd sage-4.0.2
$ ./sage -sh
$ cd spkg/build/maxima-5.16.3
On Jul 6, 6:16 am, Burcin Erocal wrote:
> I'm reluctant to expose this functionality by default in Sage, since
> Maxima returns wrong results for certain input:
>
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3587#comment:9
Looks like the problems mentioned there have been fixed in CVS.
(%i5) si
> I very strongly agree that such a limitation is a major problem.
> The only way I can think of to deal with it, is if any such exponent
> appears, we switch to the polydict (nonsingular) representation, and
> everything gets way slower, and Groebner basis computations switch to
> a toy implement
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:02 PM, William Stein wrote:
>> It seems that in Sage 4.0.1.rc0, there is an error when I tried
>> building the PDF version of the reference manual. If you're
>> interested, the complete LaTeX log is here:
>>
>> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/doc/reference.lo
Oh well, here is one certfication MathWorks got:
http://www.mathworks.com/company/pressroom/articles/article31189.html
Bill.
On 7 July, 05:03, William Stein wrote:
> Here is a talk I gave that was about many of the many features Magma
> has that Sage doesn't have:
> http://wstein.org/talks/20
On 7 July, 05:03, William Stein wrote:
> Here is a talk I gave that was about many of the many features Magma
> has that Sage doesn't have:
> http://wstein.org/talks/20090609-sage_and_magma/
>
> Below I'll make a few remarks just because they occurred to me. I'm
> not trying to disagree with
On 4 Jul 2009, at 23:21, Robert Miller wrote:
> Source tarball, sage.math binary, and upgrade URL are, respectively:
>
> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.rc0.tar
> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.rc0-sage.math-only-x86_64-Linux.tar.gz
> htt
Hi!
On 7 Jul., 09:45, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote:
...
> There might be advantages to actually offing a 'premier service' with
> guaranteed response times, confidentiality etc. The fact that one could
> get the same service for no charge would not matter - it might help get
> Sage used in places wh
Hi,
> It seems that in Sage 4.0.1.rc0, there is an error when I tried
> building the PDF version of the reference manual. If you're
> interested, the complete LaTeX log is here:
>
> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/doc/reference.log
>
> I think this should be fixed before releasing the
William Stein wrote:
> Here is a talk I gave that was about many of the many features Magma
> has that Sage doesn't have:
> http://wstein.org/talks/20090609-sage_and_magma/
>
> Below I'll make a few remarks just because they occurred to me. I'm
> not trying to disagree with anything you wrote.
I would also add that MMA is more powerful at solving equations and
finding roots. E.g. the Reduce[] command in MMA. Even MMA's Solve[]
finds solutions where Sage (or Maxima) does not. But I suppose that this
is not a fundamental disadvantage of Sage, as it is just a matter of
implementing bet
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Dr. David
Kirkby wrote:
>
> rjf wrote:
>> In that report, William Stein says,
>> "A large amount of the symbolic functionality that uses Maxima has
>> issues like this, but unfortunately there is basically nothing we can
>> do about it, except continue with project
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Robert Miller wrote:
>>
>> Source tarball, sage.math binary, and upgrade URL are, respectively:
>>
>> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/rlmill/release/sage-4.1.rc0.tar
>> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Bjarke Hammersholt
Roune wrote:
>
> I'd like to discuss whether limiting the size of exponents of
> variables in Sage is a good way to go, and whether it is necessary to
> report an error when breaking those limits. In the default polynomial
> ring using Singular,
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