On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, William Stein wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
David's explanation of this is right on. W
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, William Stein wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>>>
>>> David's explanation of this is right on. We need parent() to work
>>> in some sensible way on non-Elements (e.g. Python in
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
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>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> These seem consistent to me, albeit rather complex. However I am
>>> not sure I understand the following
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
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> On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
> ...
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>> These seem consistent to me, albeit rather complex. However I am
>> not sure I understand the following:
>>
>> sage: parent(IntegerRing())
>>
>> sage: parent(RealField())
>>
>>
>>
On Jun 4, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Harald Schilly wrote:
>> Also, under "Library", I don't know what "works" means.
>
> This was already a problem mentioned somewhere else. Very interesting.
> I looked it up in a dictionary and it is the correct translation.
> Maybe it is used differently? Or is the wo
On Jun 5, 2:32 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I set up a Sun Ultra 60 for testing of sage and have mailed a couple
> of people passwords. I just checked this, and found another issue with
> NTL on the Ultra 60 which I did not notice on the Blade 2000.
>
> It appears to fail
I set up a Sun Ultra 60 for testing of sage and have mailed a couple
of people passwords. I just checked this, and found another issue with
NTL on the Ultra 60 which I did not notice on the Blade 2000.
It appears to fail with:
"make: Fatal error in reader: makefile, line 522: Macro assignment o
On Jun 5, 12:36 am, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Spot on Michael. gcc config is given at the beginning of the
> compilation and says: --without-gnu-ld --with-ld=/usr/ccs/bin/ld
>
> OK back to square one to put together a better patch.
> It's at time like this that you start wishing every
On Jun 5, 12:05 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > g++ -I../include -I. -O2 -g -fPIC -fPIC -shared -Wl,-soname,lib`cat
> > DIRNAME`.so -o lib`cat DIRNAME`.so FFT.o FacVec.o GF2.o GF2E.o GF2EX.o
> > GF2EXFactoring.o GF2X.o GF2X1.o GF2XFactoring.o GF2XVec.o GetTime.o
> > HNF.o ctools.
On Jun 5, 11:05 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 12:56 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> > On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi David,
>
> > I don't believe the problem I was experiencing is anything to do with
> > the shell,
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:07 PM, William Stein wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Bill Page wrote:
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>> Is there any interest in also implementing the Co-product constructor?
>
> Yes.
>
>> What about Record and Union constructors?
>>
>
> I don't know what those are (at least what Record is
On Jun 5, 12:56 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi David,
> I don't believe the problem I was experiencing is anything to do with
> the shell, or how it is called. As Is said, I'm not using csh or tcsh
> as a login sh
On Jun 4, 8:35 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 9:30 pm, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> > > gmp_aux.h exists without the tuning, but I am not sure why we skip the
> > > tuning on Solaris. I will certain
>>
>> Notice that the parent of t[1] is incorrect in the 2nd case.
>
> This is a bug. I've opened a ticket here:
>
>http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/3368
>
> and assigned it to Mike Hansen :-)
This was never the intended functionality of CartesianProduct? -- it
is different tha
Thanks, just went through your remarks, very good comments. I used
about 90% of them ...
On Jun 4, 8:19 pm, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the main page, why not put the mission *first*, and then
> afterwards put "Sage is..."
This "first page first sentence problem" will never be
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> In: http://modular.math.washington.edu/msri06/work/kohel/msri_magma.pdf
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> "A Brief Magma Tutorial" by David R. Kohel gives this example:
>
> --
>
> The parent structure of a tuple is more important than in the case
In: http://modular.math.washington.edu/msri06/work/kohel/msri_magma.pdf
"A Brief Magma Tutorial" by David R. Kohel gives this example:
--
The parent structure of a tuple is more important than in the case
of sequences or sets.
> C := CartesianProduct(Integers(),RationalField());
> t :=
On Jun 4, 9:39 pm, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, mabshoff wrote:
> > Aside from that it would be good with somebody with deeper Solaris-
> > internals fu than me could enlighten me if /dev/random is the
> > preferred source of randomness. On linux at
On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:02 AM, mabshoff wrote:
> On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Yes, what could go wrong? ;)
>>
>>> Seriously: What I meant above is that we ought to see on Solaris
>>> only
>>> if switching t
On Jun 4, 9:30 pm, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > gmp_aux.h exists without the tuning, but I am not sure why we skip the
> > tuning on Solaris. I will certainly see if I cannot reactivate that.
> > As I mentioned in the other e
On Jun 5, 1:10 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:56 pm, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Francois,
>
> > It looks like gmp_aux.h is generated during "make setup3" which is
> > completely skipped on sun, from the skpg-install script:
> > do_tune()
>
On the main page, why not put the mission *first*, and then
afterwards put "Sage is..."
Also, under "Library", I don't know what "works" means. Maybe that
"works" in deutsch, but it doesn't work in english :-). Do you mean
like projects that use Sage, or tools built on top of Sage, or
som
Some more.
"Development" page:
"The proclaimed mission is" => "Our mission is"
Let's be consistent with "create" vs "creating". It's different here
from the main page. I think "creating" is better.
In the enumerated list, I would prefer n-dashes (–) instead of
hyphens.
"There is the IRC ch
On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Dan Christensen wrote:
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> "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>> Sage Enhancement Proposal: Change comparisons that involve
>> elements of the symbolic ring to return True or False if both sides
>> of the symbolic comparison are constants and the comparison
nitpicking issues. (some are more subjective than others, feel
free to ignore any of the suggestions below)
main page:
"Python based" => "Python-based"
Next to the download button, shouldn't be a space between "3.0.2" and
the comma; and I don't see the need for a colon after "Version"
i
On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
> Robert,
>
> Thanks for the elaboration. I hope that this follow-up is not too far
> off topic and I don't want to distract you (or any of the Sage
> developers) from your main tasks. I wrote this mostly as notes and
> questions to myself - but if yo
Everyone keeps saying they don't like the blue.
Well, I *do* like the blue!
Just my 2 cents :-)
david
On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Clement Pernet wrote:
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> First, I really think this web site looks much better, and mature.
> Great
> job!
> I asked my roomate, Alan, to review it, since he's
First, I really think this web site looks much better, and mature. Great
job!
I asked my roomate, Alan, to review it, since he's quite a bit into web
app. development. Here are his comments:
"
* in general: less pages, dont hide things 3 pages deep. everything on
the site could be edited down t
Dear Michael,
I am glad that you have made some progress.
I am copying this to sage-devel since the questions you ask are about
how to use Sage and not about this particular problem (which is to
compute integral points on elliptic curves, if anyone on sage-devel is
reading this).
2008/6/4 Micha
> Hi Dave,
>
> I know one issue with NTL that pops up when people use either csh or
> tcsh as a login shell and I got a likely fix that will be in Sage
> 3.0.3.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
It's not that
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~] $ grep drkirkby /etc/passwd
drkirkby:x:100:100::/export/home/drkirkby:
On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:32 AM, John Cremona wrote:
> 2008/6/4 Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> But right now we've already got enough on our plate trying to get the
>> changes we have pushed through. (Any help on this front would be
>> greatly appreciated.)
>
> Robert,
>
> Can you be more s
> > The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
> > queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
> > they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
> > that the remaining SAGE dependencies will enter the Debian NEW que
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM, kcrisman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> On Jun 4, 12:13 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi
>> I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
>> start the sageserver:
>>
>> Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter t
On Jun 4, 12:13 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
> start the sageserver:
>
> Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
>
> tell application "Terminal"
> do script "/Applicat
On Jun 4, 6:13 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
Hi Kai-Philipp
> I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
> start the sageserver:
>
> Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
>
> tell application "Terminal"
> do s
Hi
I just read the installation readme and built my own application to
start the sageserver:
Just start the Apple-ScriptEditor and enter the following code:
tell application "Terminal"
do script "/Applications/sage/sage -notebook"
end tell
Well, that's all. Now only save the script as a
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Curious. I show up as a contributor at least 3 times. William shows up at
> least 10 times... I think I saw you (Martin) in there at least twice. It
> seems that many of us don't configure .hgrc on every machine we use...
Yes, and sometimes
On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:
> > Yes, what could go wrong? ;)
>
> > Seriously: What I meant above is that we ought to see on Solaris only
> > if switching to /dev/urandom as an entropy source does fix the
> > infinite
Curious. I show up as a contributor at least 3 times. William shows up at
least 10 times... I think I saw you (Martin) in there at least twice. It seems
that many of us don't configure .hgrc on every machine we use...
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Martin Albrecht wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 04 June 2008
On Jun 4, 9:19 am, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tim,
> The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
> queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
> they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
> th
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Timothy G Abbott wrote:
> The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
> queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
> they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
> that the remaining SAGE
"William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sage Enhancement Proposal: Change comparisons that involve
> elements of the symbolic ring to return True or False if both sides
> of the symbolic comparison are constants and the comparison can
> be definitely determined.
I'm not sure what symbolic
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:08 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > > Well, I have seens the same problem on other Solaris boxen and we do
> > > not explicitly just /dev/random, but we do so via GNUTLS. We might
> > > patch GNUTLS slightly on Solaris
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
> queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
> they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
On Jun 4, 3:08 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Well, I have seens the same problem on other Solaris boxen and we do
> > not explicitly just /dev/random, but we do so via GNUTLS. We might
> > patch GNUTLS slightly on Solaris, but up to know it isn't 100% clear
> > to my why t
On Jun 4, 2:56 pm, Francois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
Hi Francois,
> It looks like gmp_aux.h is generated during "make setup3" which is
> completely skipped on sun, from the skpg-install script:
> do_tune()
> {
> if [ $UNAME = "SunOS" ]; then
> return
> fi
> do_make
> Well, I have seens the same problem on other Solaris boxen and we do
> not explicitly just /dev/random, but we do so via GNUTLS. We might
> patch GNUTLS slightly on Solaris, but up to know it isn't 100% clear
> to my why this happens.
Yeah, patching the random number generation of the SSL pac
On Jun 4, 12:51 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Jun 4, 5:13 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
Hi David,
> > with malb's libSingular fix we are down from 120+ segfaults to about
> > 100 doctest failures, none of them segfaults. While that does not
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Jaap Spies wrote:
> Just found this:
>
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
>
> Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
>
> Jaap
Another thing (this is a funny tool to play with :-))
"""
Few source code comments
Sage: Open Source Mathematics Software is wr
On Jun 4, 2:06 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
>
> The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
> is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
> process to stop, but it lat
On Wednesday 04 June 2008, Jaap Spies wrote:
> Just found this:
>
> http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
>
> Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
Is this relevant:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage/factoids/473513
?
Martin
--
name: Martin Albrecht
_pgp: http://pgp.mit.edu
Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
> Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
>
> The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
> is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
> process to stop, but it later stops when various things are
> undefine
Just found this:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/sage
Sage seems to have 5 users and 173 contributors :-)!
Jaap
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Here's my attempt to build sage 3.0.2 on Solaris (SPARC).
The build process reports gmp_aux.h is not found, I checked and there
is no such file. However, this in itself does not cause the build
process to stop, but it later stops when various things are
undefined.
See below.
The system in a Sun
On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Bill Page wrote:
> Ok (and thanks also for the clarification, David). There are of course
> two different uses of "object" here: 1) object of some category, 2)
> Python object. All Python objects have a 'type', i.e. belong to some
> Python class.
>
> So in Sage 3.0.2
Robert,
Thanks for the elaboration. I hope that this follow-up is not too far
off topic and I don't want to distract you (or any of the Sage
developers) from your main tasks. I wrote this mostly as notes and
questions to myself - but if you or anyone else have some time or the
inclination to cor
On Jun 4, 5:13 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> with malb's libSingular fix we are down from 120+ segfaults to about
> 100 doctest failures, none of them segfaults. While that does not look
> like much of an improvement nearly all of those errors are caused by
> the fol
On May 30, 10:03 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 30, 10:06 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I managed to get quite a way building 3.0.2 on my Solaris laptop
> > before there were any issues at all, but with 3.0.3.alpha0 things have
> > not gone so sm
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_Boltzmann_methods
the packages
http://www.lbmethod.org/openlb/
and
http://www.physics.ndsu.nodak.edu/people/wagner/LB.html
are GPL'd. The first is GPLv2 but SAGE is licensed GPLv2+,
and the second is licenced under the "GPL" but doesn't say which
v
On Jun 4, 1:32 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to learn a bit about Blender too. If you have a book you'd
> recommend, please let me know.
I've played around with blender and it's amazingly cool if you
understand how it works (the UI), but this takes some time. I do
2008/6/4 Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> But right now we've already got enough on our plate trying to get the
> changes we have pushed through. (Any help on this front would be
> greatly appreciated.)
Robert,
Can you be more specific about how others can help with this?
John
> >
>
--
The first bunch of SAGE dependencies entered the Debian NEW queue (the
queue of packages waiting for review from the Debian ftpmasters before
they are uploaded to Debian unstable) tonight; by tomorrow I expect that
that the remaining SAGE dependencies will enter the Debian NEW queue.
I am thus
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