On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 June 2008, mabshoff wrote:

<SNIP>

> > Yes, what could go wrong? ;)
>
> > Seriously: What I meant above is that we ought to see on Solaris only
> > if switching to /dev/urandom as an entropy source does fix the
> > infinite startup time of the notebook. I had similar problems with the
> > Sage notebook with the 64 bit OSX version initially due a non-compiled
> > _ctypes extension, but in that case it failed outright. I am well
> > aware of the dangers of hacking on the random source for anything, but
> > I promise that I will use more than PID to seed ;)

Hi Martin,

> Still, make sure you get absolutely crystal clear confirmation from upstream
> that what you're doing is tolerable. Anything else is not acceptable IMHO.

certainly, I don't want to be the idiot that weeks after the OpenSSL
+Debian debacle does something equally stupid and hence will be know
in Slashdot lore as "that GNUTLS idiot" ;). It might in the end be a
config problem since on Solaris with Sage 3.0.1 upon the start of sage
the process just sits there polling /dev/random for well over two
minutes and nothing happens, i.e. I always killed it. I will now let
it sit there for a while and see if it comes up. Aside from that there
is a problem on that box due to some background jobs being way too
high in priority so that I only get a small default slice of the CPU.
I will pause the background processes now and see if that makes a
difference.

Aside from that it would be good with somebody with deeper Solaris-
internals fu than me could enlighten me if /dev/random is the
preferred source of randomness. On linux at least /dev/urandom is
supposed to be a "better" source of entropy, but I could be wrong
about that.

And a last note: I also need to remove a bad fix for libfplll that
Paul had pointed out to me a while ago as wrong, i.e. my round fix for
Solaris did stupid things for numbers smaller than zero. It isn't
needed on Solaris 10 and higher, so I plan to remove it since we as it
looks now will only support Solaris 10 and higher anyway.

> Martin

Cheers,

Michael

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