Frankly I prefer "man" because it is concise and to the point. Yes, we
need extended documentation, but often it's a major pain to dig through
"info" and "/usr/doc" pages to find the information you're looking for.
Everytime I run into a (mostly) empty man that points me to these I just
lapse into
> GUIs aren't a silver bullet, and you _can_ make CLIs discoverable
But the average user, and certainly my dad, doesn't want to have to
discover anything. They want the thing to work by pushing a button. They
want something at least as easy to use as the VCR, and the "buttons"
paradigm of Win
Alan Shutko wrote:
> I just can't resist mentioning that info.el has been around since
> 1985, and the standalone info has been around since 1987.
Touche! ;-)
I still think there's too many re-implimentations out there (even if
this isn't one of them). After a while everyone keeps rewriting thi
"Frank Schmuck, CFO" wrote:
>
> > However, I cannot in good faith deny that Windows is more
> > user-friendly right now.
> Truth is Linux is a great system once it is set up by someone who knows
> how to do it and if you have the right equipment. Can you imaging
> needing to recompile Win2000 so
Jean Francois Martinez wrote:
> Please reread this slowly three times: "Info pages are supposed to be
> read with Emacs not with info".
>
> It has been told several times in this thread but you keep bashing
> info.
Is that to imply then that when they say use the "info" pages, not "man"
pages th
Lets kill this thread. Both sides have been beat to death and things are
starting to get unfriendly out there.
Ugh.
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One thing I can't find a good document on is *how* these denial of
service programs (the binaries) got onto the Linux boxes in the first
place. Were they installed through the "rpc.statd" hole? Is it IRC
buffer overflow issue (it doesn't sound like it)? How did the trojan
horses get onto the syste
hundreds of holes you may have overlooked.
>
> Best thing to do, is double-check you have the most recent copies of
> anything outwards facing, and any and all security patches.
>
> -Jesse
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> S
quick but it definitely looks
like a bug...
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Alan Shutko wrote:
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> Matt Fahrner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > I completely agree *if* possible. If anything will be Open Source's
> > downfall it will be these sorts of forks and inablility to share the
> > sandbox
point me to a
URL that says so)? What I'm also not sure is if people are objecting to
the content of some requests just out of principle or because it really
is inhibiting the usefulness of the list.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 20:04:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Matt
First I'll address the security fixes. We take Pine security
vulnerabilities very
Yes it tries to mimic the startup behavior, but that doesn't mean it
limits its own functionality strictly to the POSIX bourne shell subset.
I think Alan's comment that there should be a /bin/sh that behaves
strictly to POSIX compliance has some merits, particularly to force
coders to write portab
divisiveness in the industry, which I
think this would.
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en though I'm "old").
Just wait, someday even though Linux is great stuff they'll be calling
what you grew up with and built "crap" too. It will happen. Some
generation will be talking about all the old "Linux squares" who prefer
that proprietary old
k the later would be far more simple
than the former.
That is of course if anyone cares, because outside Thilo (who brought it
up in the first place) no one seems to have much interest in the idea.
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red since they don't show up against the correct
interface/MAC combination.
The only guess I have is something to do with interface naming confusion
(which I vaguely remember reading about somewhere) or a kernel bug.
Any guesses, advice, etc?
Thanks,
- Matt
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ket came in on "eth1". Note it only shows outbound (we don't see
anything coming in for the wrong address which makes some sense).
Anyone seen this or a fix. It looks like a major bug to me.
Thanks,
- Matt
Matt Fahrner wrote:
>
> You're probab
ackets:1810 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:207 errors:21 dropped:0 overruns:4 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:28 Base address:0xf000
Thanks,
- Matt
Matt Fahrner wrote:
>
> Ok, well I have more info
; Finally I would like to see better access control through RSBAC and the like i
> Linux. The omnipotence of root and the fact far too many programs need to run
> as root is a structural security problem in Unix.
>
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Is it really in the thousands? I thought these tools were in the $300 to
$500 range... Maybe I just haven't looked carefully lately.
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Thomas Dodd wrote:
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> Matt Fahrner wrote:
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> > A little late but...
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> > I think t
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I have to call pthread_key_create() to create
> the variable and pthread_set/getspecific() to access it.
>
> I was hoping g++ supported this extension as well.
>
> If I do use pthread_key_create(), does my main() thread also get its own
> copy of the data, or only threads created by
Sorry, I didn't mean for this response to go to the entire group...
- Matt
Matt Fahrner wrote:
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> Sorry I never responded (been buried). Unfortunately past the fact that
> you can do "thread_specific()" I don't know much about what'
and the learning
curve for our users is more than we want to take on right now. We can
and will modify the Xclients script but it's too bad when changes get
made like this that effect the greater end user community.
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> I'm guessing that all of this is unfamillar to you. I lament that. That
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seem to use swap judiciously.
Any clues would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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90% of the memory is used with 0% of swap.
Don't know what's up, but it's really weird.
Thanks for the responses though.
- Matt
Timothy Writer wrote:
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be appreciated. Note I've asked the kickstart list with
no response...
Thanks,
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h off
the support of the little guy to other "open source" people and then
have their developers/support concentrate on core business, like servers.
Am I reading this right?
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ort general Unix standard
that I've seen. Though the RedHat/Linux world may want to be
progressive, such progressiveness shouldn't be in a vacuum of the rest
of the Unix world. Some of us have large heterogeneous environments to
support.
Ugh.
Matt Fahrner
Manager of Networking
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I haven't done as much research as I probably should before putting this
out but...
We're wondering if there is a way to patch up RPMs? No, not source RPMs
but rather the binary installable format. Here's the problem:
We cookie cutter build our Linux boxes for our stores (eventually 5 each
multi
Jon Carnes wrote:
>
> A simpler solution is to use disk imaging. If you are truly making
> all the boxes with the same technology then a disk image of the
> current best-of will due the trick. Then you can send around a new
> CD every week with the new image. Just use a boot disk and then
> DD
"Andrew E. Mileski" wrote:
> Probably not going to work as well as you hope, but if you want to
> experiment, use rsync as it is the easiest and a standard RH package.
>
> Syncing remotely can be as easy as
> rsync remote.rsyncserver.com::module/remotefile localfile
> as always there are many
nefit them.
However I do object to a "demand" as opposed to a request since it
really is a good way to drive wedges. After all we're all working for
the same thing, we should work together and drop petty squabbles.
Matt Fahrner
Manager of Networking
Burlington Coat Factory Wa
> I still remember my disappointment in 1995 when I got an Aix station
> and noticed that in many areas its software was inferior to Linux's.
It's true that many of the other Unixes were and still are inferior to
Linux, but having used them in production situations they were often
more than suffi
> To be honest, I'd find it to be a major PITA if every
> machine I installed had to okay through a ppp config post install
I don't think that's really what they're getting at. You don't need to
make everything get configured at install time, just give an option so
that it can, or better yet, a G
fault NFS server is.
On the same note we're wondering if we should use one over the other
(kernel vs. daemon)? Note we also get complaints about NFS version 3 not
being found (which is the Solaris default and will revert to 2 if not
available).
Thanks,
Matt Fahrner
Manager of Networking
Burling
Yes a "semaphore" is very portable (at least within Unix environments).
You can also use "flock()" on a file. Another trick is just to create
and destroy a file as a sort of gate condition.
- Matt
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > pthread_mutex_, but this is for threads. Do I u
Julie wrote:
> Both of the file-based mechanisms can fail if the two
> processes are pounding on a non-local filesystem.
>
> They also tend to be DOG SLOW.
Agreed. The "semaphore" is the way to go.
Of course unless you're trying to synchronize across multiple systems it
wouldn't make sense to
Just to be clear, I was *not* advocating the use of files as a
semaphore. I'm just saying its one of your alternatives. Sometimes you
just gotta do what you gotta do (for example from a bourne shell
program). Not that I'm trying to get anyone to use this method (I
wouldn't) but unless you're flail
There's an example below. As far as sending signals go you'd either have
to do it through your own proprietary messages through the pipes or you
can signal out of band using "kill()" and "signal()" calls. There is no
inherent OS method of signaling through a pipe it
> It is unfortunate that RedHat's SU keeps the same environment and
> specially the same PATH as this leaves the user open to a trivial
> attack
This only is a problem if you "su" from someone else's account,
something a good administrator should be wary of. Otherwise "." should
either be at the
Nothing personal toward those who are certified, but personally I hate
certifications because:
a) They cost money that people (I) have better uses for.
b) They cost time that people have better uses for (I know I prefer
to have a life).
c) They aren't necessarily a guarantee of anything (jus
> -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction
> you had except that he called it an engineer degree.
Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and
there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an
interview.
This brings up part of m
27;t trivial. Worse, if you
really want to speak telnet protocol (you can get away with a bare TCP
stream usually, but you have to ignore the extra garbage) then you'll
have to dig up the protocol specs.
So, what are you really after? It might help if you explain why you need
to use telne
Ok then, the best I can do is give some pseudo-code:
- Program starts.
- Create two pipes with pipe() calls.
- fork()
- Child chooses one pipe and dup2()'s the read end over descriptor 0
(stdin)
- Child takes other pipe and dup2()'s the write end over descriptor 1
(stdout)
It's probably not killed by inetd but rather it may be doing a "write()"
against the closed socket and getting a SIGPIPE signal. If this is the
case you'll need to set up a signal handler to catch or ignore this
signal otherwise the process will die. I don't believe inetd does
anything if the sock
t window
> displays all hidden characters of the telnet output.
>
> Login: c/r
> Passwd: c/r
> c/r
> $
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> John
>
> - Original Message -
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This can happen if you "su" to root using a user id that is separate
from root but uses the same home directory. For instance instead of
sharing root we give out individual root. For instance mine reads:
rootmf:x:0:0:Super Matt Fahrner:/home/matt:/bin/csh
If I "su
Hi,
We have a a NIS/YP problem that somebody may have a possible suggestion
on what we do (other than ignore it, which I'm afraid is probably the
answer).
We're trying to use a Linux box as our NIS master, this replacing a Sun
Solaris server for the same purpose. After much hacking we took the
M
Thank you. We'll go to the latest version. We need to shut this up so
that the rest of the administration staff won't panic.
Thanks again Thorsten and Johannes.
- Matt
Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > We have a a NIS/Y
ght is this, If Linus dies, and all Linux development is 100% to
> the indivual companies, what happens to the portability and unity? Or is this
> not an issue?
>
> thanks
> jb
>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:16:33 -0400
> > From: Matt Fahrner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
The quoted message on the end of my last message wasn't the original
message I was trying to quote, though it was an interesting argument
internally about Linux in regards to one of our few dissenters.
Sorry about that...
- Matt
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Yes, but it was generally considered evil for privacy reasons and is
often disabled. It also is only in the newer chipsets so you couldn't
guarantee it to be consistently available.
- Matt
Steve Bagdon wrote:
>
> Didn't Intel have a solution that's built-into the cpu chi
to directly
contact their engineering in regards to this even in a paid fashion.
We'd use Mozilla, but it doesn't appear ready for prime time yet.
Any help would be appreciated...
Matt Fahrner
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that it's supported and perhaps Mozilla is the answer.
Thanks for the response,
- Matt
Alex Kanavin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Matt Fahrner wrote:
>
> > Any help would be appreciated...
>
> I think that Netscape engine
rfaces. It also
makes RedHat effectively incompatible by default with other Unixes such
as Sun and IRIX which do provide this functionality (Suns even sort by
local interfaces by default period).
I ask that RedHat reconsider this ill chosen decision to not make the
resolver libraries with the -DRESOLVSORT
PS: Thanks for the quick response.
"Mark A. Bentley" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Matt Fahrner wrote:
> > There's a Bugzilla bug in, 1467, titled 'resolver(5) "sortlist" option
> > missing' that was closed with an unacceptable resolution. The i
This is what Sun does by default. It would be fine for this not to be
the default if the "sortlist" option were recognized. Though the default
sorting (per the RFC you sent) isn't necessarily in RedHat's hands, the
setting of the sortlist compile flag for the resolver libraries.
I would ideally l
> As long as your nameservers shares a network with the client, it does
> appear to sort correctly now.
>
> --Mark
Hm... After re-reading this is it possible you're doing "sortlist"
on the server side? The client side "sortlist" isn't supposed to care
what net the server is on nor what order
Thanks for the response and for submitting the patch...
The sad thing is it looks like even Windows 98 handles this properly
when RedHat doesn't. Kind of embarassing really.
- Matt
John DiMarco wrote:
>
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you write:
> >This Redhat choice is
FYI - Mark found it wasn't working as he thought in 6.2. So, it is still
a problem (*bug* in my opinion).
Thanks for everyone's comments and looking into this...
Now if only RedHat would comment.
- Matt
"Mark A. Bentley" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Mark A. Bentley
John DiMarco wrote:
> Unfortunately, it's a fundamental problem with the Linux development
> style. People tend to develop what they're interested in, not what's
> needed by the people who use it for real work. As more and more
> companies jump onto the Linux bandwagon, hopefully, some of the
has to be through
remote management. This would help facilitate this.
Matt Fahrner
Manager of Networking
Burlington Coat Factory
Pekka Savola wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Nitebirdz wrote:
> > I've done it in a couple of cases, but I suppose it is wise to actually
> > take t
mmediately
shift back to the messed up colors.
Anybody else seen this?
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Does sound like DOS not Linux. I had similar messages when we exceded
stack sizes within the DOS 64k memory limit.
- Matt
Mark Pruett wrote:
>
> What OS and compiler are you using? The last time I saw
> these types of messages was with Borland compilers
> on DOS/Windows
Hey, that did it for me too!
Thank you *very* much! That'll make it more usable for our users.
- Matt
Alan Shutko wrote:
>
> Matt Fahrner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Has anyone had the problem and preferably found a fix for using the
I happen to disagree. We use them here quite a bit. I have no use for
most people's "signatures" either, but I easily ignore them.
- Matt
"Mike A. Harris" wrote:
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> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Matt Fahrner wrote:
>
> >Date: Tue,
o anyone who is unhappy about my standard Messenger
attachment. I can only hope any others who I have made unhappy will
complain in a more diplomatic fashion.
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(Clueless) Manager of Networking
Burlington Coat Factory
"Mike A. Harris" wrote:
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> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Matt
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