> -When you were young I guess your employer asked what certifiaction
>  you had except that he called it an engineer degree.

Actually I was self taught with the addition of a few courses here and
there. I got in by being able to demonstrate my knowledge in an
interview.

This brings up part of my point, which is people can go to college
and/or take these classes/exams and still come to interviews and be
unable to to demonstrate knowledge and particularly problem solving
skills. Yes, these people may have the knowledge but they can't
necessarily put it to quality use.

That's not to say that college or these classes aren't useful, they are
especially to those who's passion is computing. However I could go to
school for "Baseball" for the next ten years and no one would ever want
to hire me for a major league baseball team (including myself!). On the
other hand I know people who weren't very good at computers who really
put effort into it and became good (but they had passion).

I guess my real point is, it'll be sad if someone goes to a job
interview and gets turned down for a lack of credentials when perhaps a
far less competent certified individual doesn't.

                        - Matt
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