Re: how to upgrade from rpm-3 to rpm-4 ??

2000-08-22 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
"Prasanth A. Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jens-Ulrik Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ok, I give in... this seems to be one of the better kept secrets in > > distribution land, though I know it has been discussed here before. > > > > How can I upgrade smoothly from rpm-3 to rp

Re: how to upgrade from rpm-3 to rpm-4 ??

2000-08-22 Thread Prasanth A. Kumar
Jens-Ulrik Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, I give in... this seems to be one of the better kept secrets in > distribution land, though I know it has been discussed here before. > > How can I upgrade smoothly from rpm-3 to rpm-4 (without downloading an > iso cdrom image, and preferably

how to upgrade from rpm-3 to rpm-4 ??

2000-08-22 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Ok, I give in... this seems to be one of the better kept secrets in distribution land, though I know it has been discussed here before. How can I upgrade smoothly from rpm-3 to rpm-4 (without downloading an iso cdrom image, and preferably without a reboot)? The question might have been where can

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
"James M. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it time to bash Emacs now? ;) Oh, just try. Emacs will sit on your head till it pops. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! 80 days, 12 hours, 24 minutes, 8 seconds till we run away. When you're down and out, lift up

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread James M. Rogers
Is it time to bash Emacs now? ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > In other words, take a text doc, convert it to a single HTML > > page, put some links in it there and there, a TOC, and INDEX, and > > a bunch of anchors and you've got basically what I'm > > looking for... I can use LYNX eas

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Harry Putnam
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 08:10:31PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > > info --output - --subnodes 2>/dev/null libc |less Amazing, I'd never seen that one before. The whole of info run thru the less pager. The ultimate `linear' document. But I may throw a fit because it doesn't obey `page up' or `pa

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Harry Putnam
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:39:54PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > >It is linear. You can keep hitting space and page through it > >linearly. > > No it is not linear. I want to hit page up and page down and go > up and down through a document like the keys are labeled. Oh > wait, let me guess..

Re: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
Bill Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > > Does the A20 have a Neomagic, or the S3 Savage stuff? > > > > ATI Rage Mobility 128. And a 1400x1050 screen. See why all the > > automated config tools are useless? 8^) > > Does it actually work with t

Re: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > Does the A20 have a Neomagic, or the S3 Savage stuff? > > ATI Rage Mobility 128. And a 1400x1050 screen. See why all the > automated config tools are useless? 8^) Does it actually work with the r128 driver? If so, what's the PCI id? Bill

Re: gcc-2.95.2

2000-08-22 Thread Matt Wilson
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 10:15:12AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Don't remember but apparently the guy had benchmarked it. About > crashes, since both gcc 2.95.2 and gcc 2.96 are crashing (and gcc 2.95 > built fine in 6.2) I would point to glibc. If it builds for you and > not for me then

Re: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Victor Chen
You can use XF86Setup , it can disable some function of the card. - Original Message - From: "Alan Shutko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:04 AM Subject: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trond Eiv

Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread schang
Frank, mine is as follows: BP6 cel 533, overclocked to 600. NJ bios Guillemot Cougar 32 mb (Riva TNT2). No sound card, built for web server. Dual boot with win98. BTW, abit distributes their version of linux in the bp6 retail box, it's actually RH 6.2 with some abit built utilities. You may wa

Re: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
Bill Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > Any way to get access to this info? Xconfigurator is really useless > > with a lot of laptops (like my A20p) and it would be nice to come up > > with an XF86Config with less voodoo. > > Does the A20 have a

Re: Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Any way to get access to this info? Xconfigurator is really useless > with a lot of laptops (like my A20p) and it would be nice to come up > with an XF86Config with less voodoo. Does the A20 have a Neomagic, or the S3 Savage stuff? Bill __

Setting up X (was Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?)

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trond Eivind Glomsrød) writes: > DDC-probing during install, or provided by Xconfigurator. Any way to get access to this info? Xconfigurator is really useless with a lot of laptops (like my A20p) and it would be nice to come up with an XF86Config with less voodoo. -- Alan S

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
"Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A linear text document has a top and a bottom, and it scrolls > continuously down the screen as you go down, and up when you go > up. _that_ is what I want. Hypertext links will be fine if they > stay in this doc. info --output - --subnodes 2>/dev

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread jfm2
> > In other words, take a text doc, convert it to a single HTML > page, put some links in it there and there, a TOC, and INDEX, and > a bunch of anchors and you've got basically what I'm > looking for... I can use LYNX easily, but info doesn't cut it > for ease of accessing information. A mor

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
"Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Cool. I'll use printf() instead of basename then. Either you're intentionally twisting my post, or you have trouble reading. Let me spell it out in short words for you: * Info has a sucky UI. I think everyone agrees on that. * basename is not d

Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread jfm2
> > Is WinXX easier to use? Need some specifics? > > 1. Windows2000 auto-detects my BP6 dual processor system. All I have to > do to get the same level of service with Linux is to edit certain > setting, recompile the kernel, copy the new one to a new location and > then reconfigure LILO. Yea

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 22 Aug 2000, Alan Shutko wrote: >> man basename is much easier than: >> >> info libc >> >> Then search for an hour. > >Actually, you can do > >info libc > >i printf > >(You can't do basename since it's not documented at all.) Cool. I'll use printf() instead of basename then. >Or > >s b

RE: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread Frank J. Schmuck
Hi Sheldon, One humbling thing about the community is how helpful everyone can be. Pertinent information: BP6 with dual 500 celerons. V4.51PG Bios (NJ). Aureal Vortex 8830 Audio. Everything stable in Win2000Prof. RedHat 6.1, 6.2 and Pinstripe do not auto-detect SMP. Win2k correctly detects du

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Alan Shutko
"Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man basename is much easier than: > > info libc > > Then search for an hour. Actually, you can do info libc i printf (You can't do basename since it's not documented at all.) Or s basename to search through it. > Easier to locate stuff in

Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread schang
Frank, Don't know which version of linux you run, I just built a BP6 dual celeron box, the redhat 6.2 installed out of box, it automatically chooses the smp i686 kernel for it. I was preparing for much worse. Also a cheap alternatives to the tulip cards is the DLink 530TX+ which uses realtek 81

RE: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread Douglas Kilpatrick
On 22-Aug-2000 Frank Schmuck, CFO wrote: > 1. Windows2000 auto-detects my BP6 dual processor system. All I have to So did RedHat 6.2. > 2. Ever set up a printer? Ever do it successfully? One ink-jet, 2 laser printers (one PostScript). 5 or 6 network printers. Never had a problem, RedHat 4

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> Is it truely the info pages you hate, or just the info user >> interface program? I suspect the latter. I like what info is >> TRYING to do - hyperlink documentation in a useful manner, but >> the UI just plain sucks. HTML'ing it means I can choo

Re: Info vs. Man (Was Re: basename()?)

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> Amen; the cumulative user interface annoyances with info are awful >> (and I'm and emacs fan!); but the idea that extensive and in-depth >> documentation be organized in a hyper-linked tree with extensive >> indexing is good. In fact, it would be j

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> At 10:35 8/19/00 -0700, Joseph Malicki wrote: >> >glibc is documented in info, not manpages. the manpages there are just >> >an incomplete and in some cases inaccurate collection, werent they from >> >libc5 or something? The wonders of GNU software

Re: GNU info (was something else)

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> Honestly though, a new user nowadays to Linux, is almost 95% or >> more likely to try it out with either GNOME or KDE. They are >> highly likely to discover the help system in each and will find >> the manpages and info docs right there. If they r

Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Frank Schmuck, CFO" ) writes: > Is WinXX easier to use? Need some specifics? > > 1. Windows2000 auto-detects my BP6 dual processor system. All I have to > do to get the same level of service with Linux is to edit certain > setting, recompile the kernel, copy the new one to

RE: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread Frank Schmuck, CFO
Is WinXX easier to use? Need some specifics? 1. Windows2000 auto-detects my BP6 dual processor system. All I have to do to get the same level of service with Linux is to edit certain setting, recompile the kernel, copy the new one to a new location and then reconfigure LILO. Yeah, just about t

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: >> >summer@dugite /u03]$ rpm -q libc redhat-release >> >libc-5.3.12-31 >> >redhat-release-6.2-1 >> >[summer@dugite /u03]$ >> >> Just because libc is installed does not mean that it is not >> obsolete. It is included to run legacy programs only. gli

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> > Is it truely the info pages you hate, or just the info user > interface program? I suspect the latter. I like what info is > TRYING to do - hyperlink documentation in a useful manner, but > the UI just plain sucks. HTML'ing it means I can choose my own > UI - Lynx/Netscape, etc.. > > The

Re: Info vs. Man (Was Re: basename()?)

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> ---1463796991-1804289383-966868754=:17997 > Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > Amen; the cumulative user interface annoyances with info are awful > (and I'm and emacs fan!); but the idea that extensive and in-depth > documentation be organized in a hyper-linked tree with extensive >

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> At 10:35 8/19/00 -0700, Joseph Malicki wrote: > >glibc is documented in info, not manpages. the manpages there are just > >an incomplete and in some cases inaccurate collection, werent they from > >libc5 or something? The wonders of GNU software... > > then can we please get rid of the stu

Re: GNU info (was something else)

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> Honestly though, a new user nowadays to Linux, is almost 95% or > more likely to try it out with either GNOME or KDE. They are > highly likely to discover the help system in each and will find > the manpages and info docs right there. If they read the stuff Ah yes. I'm in GNOME today, just

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, John Summerfield wrote: > > >> BTW, what version of RH are you using? FTR - libc is obsolete. > >> > > > >You should look first;-) > > Why? > > >summer@dugite /u03]$ rpm -q libc redhat-release > >libc-5.3.12-31 > >redhat-release-6.2-1 > >[summer@dugite /u03]$ > > Just

Re: info-documentation (was: Re: basename()?)

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> > I might suggest that it's kind of arrogant to try and give > orders to unpaid volunteer labor. > However this "unpaid labour" gets its rewards, I guess those rewards are greater when more people admire and use their products. The criteria for choosing, using and abusing software (and

Re: Is RedHat Linux's worst ennemy?

2000-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Nitebirdz wrote: > > > Again, I'm a big supporter of Linux and open source in general. I am > > _convinced_ that Linux will sooner or later win the desktop market > > too. However, I cannot in good faith deny that Windows is more > > user-friendly right now. > > How so? >

Compile the openldap with lastest version of sleepycat

2000-08-22 Thread So Hing Pong Andrew
Hi all, I would like to compile the openldap src code version 1.2.7 with the lastest version of sleepycat 3.1.X. But I don't know how to do that. At normal, Sleepycat(http://www.sleepycat.org) is a BSD DB API files and is bundled with glibc. For example, in RH 6.1 the version of sleepycat is 2.

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Abbey ) writes: > At 07:35 8/21/00 -0400, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > > On Sun Aug 20 2000 at 21:03, Chris Abbey wrote: > > > > At 10:35 8/19/00 -0700, Joseph Malicki wrote: > > > > >glibc is documented in info, not manpages. the manpages there are just > > > > >an i

Re: gcc-2.95.2

2000-08-22 Thread jfm2
> > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:32:53AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > But the gcc people tell that gcc 2.96 generates slower code than gcc > > 2.95.2. And I have found that it can't recompile itself in pinstripe > > (it core dumps). This could be due to glibc since when I replaced it

Re: How to use "long long int" type?

2000-08-22 Thread Robert Friberg
Please don't post in html. Maybe the code fails because you're dividing by 0. -- robert friberg, ensofus ab +46(0)708 98 57 01 - Dear sir: How can I use "long long int" data in my application? long long int data1,data2; int data3; data3 = (int)(data1/data2); t

Re: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread jfm2
> > case in point: I use emacs as my preferred editor, I just learned > from this thread that emacs can view info pages... as if it couldn't > do enough already ;) but no one bothered to mention HOW to do this. CTRL-H I Or look in the help menu if you are using X > Generally I've not had enoug

RE: basename()?

2000-08-22 Thread Joseph Malicki
It is well known that man-pages does NOT document glibc, and does not ATTEMPT to. Joe Malicki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Trond Eivind Glomsrød Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 4:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: basename()?

How to use "long long int" type?

2000-08-22 Thread Victor Chen
Dear sir:     How can I use "long long int" data in my application?   long long int data1,data2; int data3; data3 = (int)(data1/data2);   this code compile ok,but run fail.