Here's my East Coast perspective on the Chilly Hilly - i"m visiting family in
Seattle (I live near DC). I rode Chilly Hilly with my son-in-law, but didn't
mention to the list because I knew we were going to take a later ferry. We
rode to the ferry from West Seattle and after getting caught be
Here's a link to a recent New York Times article that describes some of the controversial parts of the merger and Mr. Wang's actions. It's worth reading for the information.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/business/24smile.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1Joan Mar 2, 2011 09:31:40 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@goog
Ok, though I occasionally post, I'm mostly a lurker.but here's a link to two photos from today:http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/5595567825And I second the thought that though I don't post a lot, I have learned a lot and gotten some great tips about gear and mechanical stuff. And when
A friend of mine spent months searching for the right handlebar, tried the Salsa Poco (didn't like it at all), Nitto Noodle (ok but not perfect for her), and finally ordered the Nitto bar that Rivendell sells as Mark's bar. She loves it, for the shallow drop, the short ramp and the round shape.
Bobby B - I've been laughing for at least 5 minutes. To the rest of the group: I can report that Steve Palincsar is quite well, posts here almost every day. He managed to entice 3 other nutty riders to go with him yesterday on a 39 mile ride - at a time the weather was predicted to be dry, but i
I have at least 5,000 miles on the Hetres/Synergy combination (on my second set of Hetres) and have never had a problem. The Synergy rims date from 2006. The Hetres went on in 2009.Joan On 10/25/13, Frank Brose wrote: I've never had a problem. Don't know the mileage but the rear is due to be re
I had a lunch date today near the Capitol, then took the long way home to visit the Tidal Basin. Pictures prove autumn in the city* can be beautiful, too:scroll left for the new pictures - http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/10676839363/Joan*Of course, just my luck, the sun went behind clou
I have the Velo Orange stem on my Nitto Noodles. Here's a link: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-26-0-6-rise.htmlAlso comes in a 17 rise. I think it looks very handsome.Joan On 11/05/13, velomann wrote: I put the Dimension silver sem on
n the U.S. On 11/08/13, Jim Bronson wrote: I think I like the pictures from Oregon better :)24 years down here in Texas, I miss it :(On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Joan Oppel <oppel...@verizon.net> wrote: I had a lunch date today near the Capitol, then took the long way home to visit the
While Bill's knowledge is vastly superior to mine, and I do mean vastly - the Bleriot does require a washer. Unlike my Waterford, the seatpost lug binder is not threaded for a screw. Michael - when I've had to replace various M5 and M6 bolts and washers, I've taken samples to the local hardware
Wonderful shots, thanks for sharing on this list.Joan On 03/06/14, MG wrote: Hi all, I rarely post to this list, but was so excited that my bike (an orange Quickbeam that I use as my commuter) and I were featured in a couple of portrait photos by Dmitry Gudkov (who is the photographer behind the
Looks like a wonderful trip! Plus, I think you got 3 whole Errandonnee categories in one excursion and that's awesome. I've only managed 2 for 1 so far on this challenge.Joan On 03/16/14, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: The temperature reached 60 degrees yesterday, and even I couldn’t make weathe
A friend of mine has the Mark's bar with Shimano shifters (Ultegra) and really likes it. The difference between the Mark's bar and my Noodle is obvious when the bikes are together. For the record, I like the long ramps on the Noodle, and sometimes rest my entire forearm there for a different posi
I want to set up a bike using 9-speed triple Shimano brifters and a triple crank. I like the chainring set up of Sugino cranks (and I also like the way they look). From internet searching, it does appear that the Sugino chainrings are ramped & pinned, which is needed to make then compatible with
I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts
Greg - I'm 'sort of' interested, and I'll tell you more but first: have you sold the bike or have you had any serious inquiries? If so, I'll probably back out.Here's my deal: I'm in Arlington, VA, but my daughter (and grand-daughter and son-in-law) live in Seattle and I'm out there 4 times a year
This is a request for help pricing a set of Velocity Synergy wheels - for the family of a friend who died riding his bike about 8 weeks ago. He had a brand new - still with foam blocks on the outside of the hubs - set of 26 inch wheels - 32 spoke, DT Swiss, with Deore LX hubs, and the built by Ri
Thanks for the terrific write up on the brevet. As for handlebar bags: for touring (which I do with only rear panniers as I motel tour), I use a lightweight small bag on my handlebars that carries my point&shoot digital camera and food. The bag is an unmentionable brand but it is quite light.
Hey - I've been thinking about doing the Chilly Hilly - but...I'm in the DC area, my daughter lives in Seattle and I visit a lot. I don't have a bike in Seattle (yet!) but she has a 'town bike' - some low gears but definitely not in any way similar to my Bleriot (or other bikes). Very upright po
I offered to take Jim and his friend, on the Monday night they're in the DC area, on a biking tour of DC monuments by night. It's a ride that Steve Palincsar and I have led several times, including for online bike friends traveling to DC. If it comes together, we'll let everyone on the list kno
Two of us "faithful" have been in touch with Bruce and offered to ride with him while he's in the area (during the work week). Anyone else interested, contact me and I'll let you know what we're doing.JoanAug 30, 2010 09:34:35 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:According to the RBW Owner
>From the website that Grant lists: write the office at - gover...@governor.state.ms.us.I sent a note last week.JoanOct 17, 2010 10:37:33 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:I see Grant's blogpost about the Scott sisters in Mississippi, (http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/294) but
My Bleriot arrived from Rivendell with short flexible plastic tubing on the cables under the bottom bracket. Looks flimsy and I've re-cabled the bike and re-used them. The plastic tubing is still functional and still there.That's almost 4 years of use, approximately 8 to 10,000 miles (a fairly go
I just put a pair of Hetres on the Bleriot. They measure (with a tape, not calipers) about 40-41mm on the Synergy rims. It was a complete surprise that they fit just fine under the SKS 45 fenders.Joan(Love the tires so far, only 200 miles on them)Jan 14, 2010 02:22:43 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@google
I had my 7 year old bike repainted (actually powder coated). Inside the frame in a few places, there was some surface rust, completely removed as part of the preparation process. The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some s
Thanks to everyone who replied - a huge help. And thanks for the reminder about the frame saverI was so intent on getting the bike put back together that I almost forgot that item. Bought the stuff and sprayed the frame thoroughly. And will replace the BB.Very Appreciative - Joan > The orig
I have Hetres and SKS fenders on my Bleriot - no problem. I have Velocity rims, and the Hetres measure (unscientifically with a metric tape measure, not calipers) 40/41mm on them.JoanMay 14, 2010 10:37:25 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
Does anyone know if
the Bleriot will comfo
Is there more risk associated with steel bikes or metal cleats on shoes (or both)?JoanJun 7, 2010 10:34:21 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:Tis the thunderstorm season for much of the country. What to do duringa thunderstorm came up on the Surly group, and I would like to sharesome that
There's a 9 am ride Sunday morning the 7th to celebrate the Cirque du Cyclisme. We'll have free admission for those attending the ride. We'll be going to the Cirque after riding. It's a 42 mile ride in the Virginia countryside (including some Virginia hills). The ride start is a couple of mil
Here's my experience: 53cm Bleriot, triple Sugino chainring set on 170 cranks - never have had a pedal strike.Heading out now on the Bleriot to do some errands,JoanJul 8, 2009 01:47:21 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:I ride a 58 cm Saluki with SPDs, relatively wide-Q triple, 170 mmcr
tures here (sorry there's no shot of the hitch side).
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Hi, all. My first post here. I became a newbie Riv owner last year in
September with my Bleriot. I'm still getting the fit down and I am
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Today two Bleriots bounced around the unpaved roads near Middleburg,
Virginia for about 38 miles. Precipitation prediction was 90%, it had
rained most of the night and most local club rides were canceled, but
one fellow who scheduled a “rustic” ride said he was heading out. So
two of us wen
I have SKS fenders on my Bleriot with Hetres, the combination has been on the bike for years. No problem at all. On 04/24/12, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: I have Hetres on my Bleriot, but I don't think I could fit fenders on it. -Original Message-From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
I don't pop the fenders off and on. I'm not that likely to fiddle with my bike, they just have become part of the bike. I think if I took them off, I would have to spend a little time re-jiggering the stays to clear the tire. Sometimes I have to take the front wheel off (when I take 2 bikes in
This might not help much -- but -- if you can't find a Betty Foy, I have a 53 Bleriot in Arlington. (And I too have lusted for a Betty Foy.)Joan On 05/02/12, Claude LaVallee wrote: Hi all,I'm new to this Group, and am thrilled to have found you all!I'm writing to ask for your assistance in findi
I've had this Zefal gauge for something like 15-18 years. Works by pressing the appropriate side against the open tire valve and quickly removing. (Has both a Schrader and a Presta side) I really can't say if it's accurate but it seems to be. I would certainly trust it for an 'on the road' adju
Boure Bicycle Clothing - it's been quite a few years since I last purchased shorts from them but the padding is very thin, exactly what you're describing. I might have the least expensive of their shorts offerings. They are also terrific on customer service and very responsive on the phone. www.
I just wanted to comment on the poster progressives - they don't come close to how good the actual poster is. It's just terrific.Joan
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I led a group ride this morning for one of the local bike clubs. Richard showed up with his brand new A Homer Hilsen. He's very excited about the bike, has posted here about his excitement (blueride2). It's a pretty standard Riv build. I took my Bleriot to the ride - another standard Riv build
Jim - I toured with a friend around Glacier and Waterton and parts in between in 2010. There was construction on the Going to the Sun road then and we were held up at several places (for quite a while in 2 spots, maybe 15 or more minutes). But so were all the cars. People were friendly and calm
You don't say where you are in Nova Scotia, but last July (2011) a few friends and I toured Cape Breton for 7 days, back and forth across and around the island. She was riding her Bleriot. (Full disclosure: I took my Bike Friday because I flew there and back from DC area.) One of the other riders
Thanks, Lynne. Bleriot looks happy and the ride looks terrific. Love the lake shots - chop and sunset. JoanWhose small Bleriot rides around Arlington and DC regularly but hasn't been on a trip for a while. On 08/02/12, islaysteve wrote: Nice, thanks for posting, Lynne. This is inspirational
The AT crosses Rt 40 near Myersville, MD (near where 40 goes over/under I70). There's a parking lot at the top there, access to the AT for hiking only. Also, there are bike routes, paved routes, leaving from that parking lot. Prepare for climbing. See this link: http://goo.gl/maps/ydaCqJoan O
I vote for early May and having Anne attend would be terrific.Joan On 11/28/13, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Early May is also a possibility, Anne... On Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:42:27 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:I'm going to be in northern NJ in early May, if that timeframe would work.On Thu, N
I definitely concur with Bruce on the tire evaluation. On my Bleriot, I've ridden Col de la Vies, Maxy Fasty's and Hetres. I definitely prefer the Hetres. Maxy Fasty's would be second choice. Col de la Vie's would be a (distant) third. (Bruce doesn't mention Hetres...)Joan On 12/25/13, B
I just HAVE to chime in: I have a reverse pull Shimano derailleur on my Bleriot BUT a standard pull Shimano derailleur on my Bike Friday. I switch between them by (literally) talking to myself about the change when I get on the bike. And I don't make wrong shifts on either bike. On the other ha
Beautiful bike and build. Question: it seems that there's an unusual curve to the rear derailleur cable housing. It's hard to tell from the pictures but can you explain what and why that is. Or, is it just the angle of the shots?Thanks, JoanOn 01/05/14, Tom Virgil wrote: Sorry I didn't get
Some days I swear a different body rides my bike. And other days, I just take off. So many variables.Joan On 01/09/14, Michael wrote: Training for upcoming Metric Century I hope to go on.Went on the Bleriot.Rolling hills of Howard County.~30 degrees and still.Nice ride.Salty roads.Bike felt reee
Starting a bit of a new thread: my Bleriot has 650B wheels, and when I've taken it on a tour, I've carried a spare tire (see Sheldon's site for how to fold any tire) and just considered it part of the tour gear. I've also carried a couple of spokes specifically sized for the wheels (front & rear
That is so cool!JoanDecember 2006 Bleriot On 01/14/14, Eric Norris wrote: Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room:http://flic.kr/p/jcVhUQ --Eric NorrisEmail: campyonly...@me.comWeb: www.campyonly.comBlog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.comTwitter: @CampyOnlyGuyFlickr: www.
Leah - I really sympathize with the total change your move has made in your biking locale and routine. I almost hesitate to write the following - because it's sort of against the use the bike for as much as possible philosophy. I also should point out that I'm lucky to live in a place where I can
Doug - My daughter and her family live in Nashville, and while they don't bike (except for very short outings), I've looked into some resources there and nearby. Here's a couple of suggestions. The Harpeth bike club is in Franklin county - harpethbikeclub.com. Most bike clubs have cue sheets or
2-3 flats in 4,000 miles of riding, urban, rural, gravel mixed.Joan On 02/04/14, Eric Norris wrote: Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a sh
I was on a week-long bike tour with friends a couple of years ago, and it was raining as we prepared to leave in the morning. One of my friends reached into his bag and brought out a roll of saran wrap! I wrapped my shoes and ankles/socks, crisscrossed to leave the bottom of forefoot clear - and
I asked a friend who has an All Rounder what he paid for it and here's his answer:"I bought mine off ebay about 7 years ago. It was listed for $1,500.00, there were no bids and when it was relisted for a "buy-it-now" price of $1,200.00, I bought it, I thought it was a very good price at the time,
Gosh, Patrick - I don't know whether I should forward this to Jonathan - or not! I do hope it finds a good home. Joan On 09/22/14, Deacon Patrick wrote: Somebody jump in this screaming deal! He looks to have underpriced it by $500 or more. Granted it needs the double chainring to have two plus g
Bottom-line: fantastic tires, now with 3,281 miles of use. I've been thinking of posting this update so now while there's a review of the 32's here's my review of skinnier ones:Love the cushiony ride, and the confident handling, stick-to-the-road sensation. Note: I'm a cautious rider but these tire
I took a leap and purchased a set of Cayuse Pass, 700c x 26 tires from Compass, in early April. They've been ridden about 420 miles - and I really like them a lot. Definitely a cushy, pleasant ride. Without question the following is a subjective judgment: I think they are faster than my previou
While I don't own calipers, a metric tape measure says 25 right now.Joan On 05/13/14, Anton Tutter wrote: Thanks, Joan, for a nice review. Do you happen to know the true inflated tire diameter on either/both of those rims? I'm just wondering how close it is to 26mm. I have a go-fast bike with 2
Oh Manny, how awful, I'm so sorry. I wouldn't want to lose my Bleriot and my heart goes out to you. Good luck.Joan On 12/12/11, Manuel Acosta wrote: At around 6:15 on my commute back from work in San Jose. I stop bysafeway to grab some food to cook at home. I decide to take a quickstop at targe
I had to share my thoughts on this since I like it so much. I saw Grant's post about getting these in and that they'd be the last from this New Zealand supplier. So here's the report: this is a great wool jersey/shirt. Lightweight (I'd guess something like 18 grams based on what I know about my
The shirts are on the "New Stuff" page, and also under "Web Specials", I think.JoanI wonder if the items change periodically that load when I click on rivbike.com, so that things cycle on that home page. On 12/21/11, Smitty-A-Go-Go<54ca...@gmail.com> wrote: There are some tops under "Web Specials
Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to me
I wanted.)Joan On 12/29/11, Anne Paulson wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel <oppel...@verizon.net> wrote:> Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a> 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The> ro
I rode the GAP & C&O a couple of years ago - Pittsburgh to DC to home, a friend and I (me: Bleriot, her: Atlantis). Lots of fun.We rode from Ohiopyle to Falling Water because I'd never seen the house. It was not a difficult climb, long not steep, and with some breaks and definitely worth it. Re
Definitely +1 for the small velcro straps. I've used them a lot for various things on my bike. Easily found at CVS, Walgreens, Target. But also in rolls of a hundred in grey or black (less obvious but maybe not as fun) at Home Depot. Joan On 01/19/12, TSW wrote: All,I love the basket on the fro
i ride a Bleriot (and a lugged steel Waterford). Steve P is in Alexandria and rides only steel bikes. Another friend lives in Arllington, has 10 bikes - one Rivendell, all steel. And then there are others I know. A number of the DC Randonneurs ride steel bikes, and there's a couple who live in
About 40 lbs of clothes hauled to Goodwill, then to Home Depot for furnace filters and light bulbs, then to Performance bike shop (sorry but they did have the exact SPF arm covers I was advised to purchase for an early spring bike trip in Death Valley), and then the closest place to grab something
My TOTAL focus was on my beloved Bleriot. Friend Tom did not make it into the pictures.Joan On 02/27/12, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 15:59 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote:> About 40 lbs of clothes hauled to Goodwill, then to Home Depot for> furnace filters and light bulbs, t
Uncommon sighting - I don't know why but there aren't that many of us riding around Northern Virginia on Rivendells, though more than I thought showed up a few weeks ago in response to the 'survey' question. This was an orange Hillborne parked outside the new Trader Joe's, using 2 (!) ulocks to h
Minh - will do! Keep an eye out for my Bleriot on Clarendon or Wilson Blvds. Joan On 03/09/12, Minh wrote: No my orange one, but makes me want to ride it into clarendon tomorrow :) I usually ride my bike to Clarendon every weekend, either my Hillborne or my Quickbeam, say hi you see me!On Thurs
Pam - I don't have a mixte, but I do have a Bike Friday. I've ridden it on several long rides - a 2-day ride last August that covered 108 miles the first day, 84 the second day. It's also been on at least 2 rides of over 70 miles. It's a fine and comfortable bike for me and I took care in settin
Bleriot Love - I totally agree!Not only did I use two locks on my bike at my office building parking gargage bike rack, but I continue to use two locks when I park around my urban home location. But - when in the countryside, on a ride with a group, we never lock our bikes outside gas stations, co
I wear regular mittens all winter long, not specific for biking. They're fine. If it's really cold, I can slip on lightweight full finger gloves underneath the mittens. It all works fine, don't notice the absence of padding. Joan On 03/07/13, Jim Mather wrote: Well, I looked again and found t
I have patched similar cuts in tires and ridden many many more miles on them (100's at least if not thousands). If you're really concerned, take an old tire and cut out a small section to use as a patch. It can be held in place with just the tube or with a couple of small pieces of duct tape.Joan
Here's a link so you can get a taste of what it was like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/sets/72157633254777022/We met on a chilly morning (low 40's at the start), 11 riders, 9 Rivs: Bleriot,AtlantisA Homer Hilsens - 2Sam HillborneAll-RounderBombadils - 3Kelly BedfordKogswellWe rode ab
Forgot to mention the attendees: Tom A and sons Hank and Sam - Atlantis, Bombadil, Homer Bobby B - BombadilNorm R - Sam Hillborne Tom R - All-RounderJoan O - BleriotRay - HomerJohn P - BombadilSteve P - KogswellSarah C - Kelly BedfordWe came from Delaware, Philadelphia, Arlington, VA, Alexandria, V
Just want to add an endorsement to Bobby's comment about a 'leap of faith'. I know I get skeptical looks from friends when I say I'm going off to ride with a bunch of people I know "only from the Internet". But it would never occur to me to doubt the folks on this list. And, I'll say again - thi
I have the Brand V bar bag. On Noodles. But it is beautifully made, easily accessible while riding and holds a lot of stuff. Camera (older Canon point&shoot so slightly bulky), snacks, cellphone, rolled up light jacket, tube. It has a double ended zipper, that's easy to grasp. The two brass ri
Answering both questions below: how to get in on "next event"? The invitation was posted to this list so one just says yes and waits for details. Next east event is not yet planned, though. "Cool weather gear" - our Delaware Water Gap ride was April 13-14, less than 10 days ago. This being mid-
Just for the record: Here's the Rivendell Brand V handlebar bag: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavbt.htmIt is beautifully made, easy open/close double zipper, very secure, holds just the right amount of stuff, made in USA. I notice it isn't available right now, and it is more expensive than t
My friend in Alexandria, near Bailey's Crossroads. I'll ask her and get back to you, she's out of town this weekend. Joan On 05/04/13, Andrew McGinley wrote: Folks,Are there any Rivendell Atlantis owners in the DC or Baltimore area? I'd like to set my eyes upon one of these bikes. Is there an
Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late August (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area. I'd love to get feedback from folks on my proposed route, and any information on a couple of questions. I'm going with a friend, we are NOT campers, so mot
hot and bare. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Joan Oppel <oppel...@verizon.net> wrote:Oregonian Riv listers - I'm deep into planning a bike trip for late August (more or less 23rd to 31st) and want to ride in the Cascades area. I'd love to get feedback from folks on my proposed
Well done all the way around! Dr. S would approve.Joan On 05/16/13, Deacon Patrick wrote: Yes. Rivendells are too versatile. Way too versatile. Way, way too versatile. I can push mine up a hill. I can coast mine down a hill. I can peddle dry, wet or white. Would you could you ride at night? In
Tim - are you interested in driving a bit to do some riding? If so, about 20 minutes south of Annapolis is a community called "Harwood", where there is parking at Southern High School. If you're interested, I can send you some cue sheets for ride routes that leave from there. Very scenic, but no
Mt Airy Bikes and College Park Bicycles - both fine shops. Larry Black is a supporter of Grant and College Park Bicycles is where we met for a ride and talk when Grant was on his Just Ride tour. Mt Airy Bikes can't be very far from you, Michael. Way out of my way but I understand from non-carbon
Congratulations - and wow! Gorgeous paint job. Enjoy, enjoy.Question: what do you mean by "upgraded fork"?Joan On 06/05/13, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I will get time to build it up until next week is another question. But my beloved Rivendell Bleriot (last seen as a smoking heap of somewhat mang
Just a suggestion: contact the League of American Bicyclists - bikeleague.org - 202-822-1333 and see if they have any information. A phone call is probably the quickest way to get an answer.Joan On 07/23/13, bo richardson wrote: I wrote an article for the Bellingham Herald about who pays for roa
Wonderful write up and terrific pictures! While I don't participate in the coffeeneuring challenge, I'm a dedicated Errandonnee participant every year (and a dedicated reader of the Chasing Mailboxes blog). it's so cool that you got to meet Mary!The death of 3 cyclists is a terrible tragedy, and i
I've been on one Adventure Cycling tour and know a number of people who have been on one of their tours. First though, I'd point out that they have several different types of tours - minimal support, where there are 10-12 people, route info provided, everyone carries his/her own stuff plus some sh
See the new Blug - ride at 5, talk at 7. I'll be there with the Bleriot.
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there from Arlington and then Metro home. Though not surehave to think about route planning (also, I'm retired so have the time to zig zag around to get there). Joan --Original Message--From: Joan Oppel Date: Sep 10, 2012 3:03:39 PMSubject: [RBW] Grant at College Park Bikes -
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