[RBW] Re: titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
I don't disagree with the observation that frame geometry is the most important variable for a touring bike, but the frame weight choice isn't as clear cut as some suggest. Touring frames necessarily need to be stiffer than a racing or rondeneuring frame, and that added stiffness always adds w

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread newenglandbike
Now and then on hills I'll just get off and walk, which I like doing actually, it is relaxing.Not that the ride isn't- it is relaxing too. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:03:05 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: > > Was that way myself until a about a year ago. Over the past couple years > have be

[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread RJM
Yeah, it's pretty ugly. Frankly, all the recent Shimano cranks are ugly as sin. I will probably just stick with the Sugino. Thanks for the suggestions from everybody, seems like it may be a good idea to change the chain to a 10 speed too (which I have on hand anyway). On Tuesday, April 10,

[RBW] Re: titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread ascpgh
I rode my Ram across country on a very light (credit card) trip and faced all kinds of winds including the storms prior to afternoon tornadoes in Kansas. Loaded or unloaded stability comes from the design and intended use of a bike. If one is intended for touring it will be fine unless foolishly lo

[RBW] Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
I have an opportunnity to buy a 60cm Specialized Sequoia ($650) in almost new condition. My interweb research has let me know that these bikes have a dedicated following. I was wondering if anyone here has one and could possibly tell me their thoughts about the bike and also, if the price is in

[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Bernard
You'll probably need the Shimano cranks. That 10-speed chain will fall between the rings of your Sugino. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bu

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
ORyou can saw off the axle flush with the locknuts and use a good old-fashioned all steel quick release. I found this on Sheldon's site somewhere. It actually works quite well on V-dropouts. If it didn't, horizontal dropouts wouldn't work because the pull is much greater on the pedal stroke t

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
. The article is for fixed conversion, but I did this on an old beater using a BMX cog and spacers on a 7 speed wheel. Couldn't make it slip no matter how hard I pedalled. Looked nice too. Quote as follows: "I used a more drastic solution: on my Bianchi Osprey. I cut the rear axle short so that

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Ha! I have an eccentric ENO hub on my Cross-Check with long horizontal dropouts. Now I can adjust through a more or leas continuous spectrum of chain tension, wheelbase, BB height, and trail. I should send it to Jan for scientific analysis! (PS: I had the wheel in a v-dropout fixie before I got

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread franklyn
Brian, I have one that I got last year. I replaced a Riv Bleriot with it. Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157627342403464/ Mine is a 58cm. I really like these miyata-built sequoia. They are supple and responsible, and the geometry is pretty close to a Riv R

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread David Spranger
This thread has taken a lot of directions, all very interesting. Three weeks in now, I still LOVE my SimpleOne! Still very happy I bought it before they disappeared. It has been my only ride during this time, though this morning, on the way to work, I regretted not using one of my geared bikes

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
Dang! That's neat you brought that up. White should use the wheelbase aspect as a selling point. I found "that" the coolest thing about the ENO hubthe fact you get a centemeter of play for tire clearance. If you get the ring/ cog combo to work by having the wheel down and rearward you can

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
I own a Quickbeam and LOVE it. I should have stated so in my post. It is by far my favorite and most intelligently designed SS bike I own (one of two dedicated SS's and 3 geared conversions.) Of my V-dropout conversions I like Sheldon's short axle solution best. Apologies for contributing to the

[RBW] Re: titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread Greg J
I don't know what model your friend got, but I see that there is a ti Vaya. Ti would not be my first choice because I too have a bias toward steel, and I have never ridden a ti bike. However, the Vaya seems to be a well-regarded and well-designed frame, and my impression of Salsa is that they

[RBW] Re: titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread dr...@charter.net
Still figuring out how to work this board, so hope this turns out in the right spot. This kid is not an experienced cyclist. The frame is advertised as touring geometry although I need to ask him which model he bought. I agree with wider tires. I used 26" 1.5 wide when I crossed the USA pulling

[RBW] Re: Any New York Rivendellish shops?

2012-04-11 Thread grant
Adeline Adeline? Seen it from the outside...it was closed. Might bet Rivish. Worth look, tho. On Apr 10, 3:32 pm, Manuel Acosta wrote: > Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like > any good couple we already picked a day "to ourselves" where we get to s

[RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Esteban
Maybe it is the francophile in me, but I've toured and ridden with a load up front on my Protovelo. I've never ridden with bags in the back until yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7067953309/in/photostream/lightbox/ Front low-riders have always felt good on this bike - the low

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Bunik
hey man where'd you get that awesome rack? ;-) On 4/11/12, Esteban wrote: > Maybe it is the francophile in me, but I've toured and ridden with a > load up front on my Protovelo. I've never ridden with bags in the > back until yesterday: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7067953309/in

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > hey man where'd you get that awesome rack? ;-) > I love it. It would be perfect on our tandem. If anyone happens to have one they'd like to sell, let me know. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Bunik
oops, that danged reply-to :-) ... E. and I swapped some rackages and I know that rear Campee well. But do tell: no problems with heel-strike? =- Joe On 4/11/12, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: >> hey man where'd you get that awesome rack? ;-) >> > > I lov

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The downsides are (1) it can interfere with rear brake pad positioning if you switch between cogs of different sizes; and (2) it can make the tire crowd the brake bridge. This happened to me on the ** cut down, dremeled, hacksawed, mutilated Rivendell ** fixed gear conversion (my '94/5 Waterford 26

[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread Kris
On my Coho..Sram Red FD and RD w/ 9 speed cassette and Silver dt shifters. No problems. I would probably prefer 7 or 8 sp, but just don't have enough motivation to switch. On Apr 11, 10:10 am, Joe Bernard wrote: > You'll probably need the Shimano cranks. That 10-speed chain will fall > between

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Esteban
Yea, the rack's on there thanks to Joe! I have the rack mounted on the fender-mount eyelets rather than the higher and slightly more forward rack-mount eyelets. Bags are pushed all the way back. I experiences some heel strike (maybe about 5 times on a 20-mile round trip commute), but I have

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
For gear changes like you mentioned you just cant beat that longish slot on the QB/ SO. There's really nothing better available...IMO. You really have to have a LOT of brake slot available to have many gear options with the ENO (IMO anyway). I suppose one could have more than one chain for diff

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Bunik
What size shoe are you, Esteban? I am a US 13 and found it too difficult, but forget if that was using toe clips or if it was platforms. Irony of course is I've finally wound up with a monster-stayed Trek 728... probably would work well on Sir Rosco Bubbe too. =- Joe On 4/11/12, Esteban wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I agree: the long axle slot, preferably sloped to match the angle of the rim, to ensure continuing brake pad alignment, is the darling. For my part, on this DB off road fixie, I removed the rear brake. (Hacksawed off the seatstay canti posts too, dammit! -- for that clean and uncluttered look.Turn

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Esteban
I'm 11... so you'd probably get some strike with those big flippers of yours! Rosco P. Coltrane has those loong stays, so you could set up a tent on the back and never even see it! On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:16:59 AM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: > > What size shoe are you, Esteban? I

[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread William
He'd probably not use a 10-speed chain, since he has a 7-speed freewheel. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:10:31 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > You'll probably need the Shimano cranks. That 10-speed chain will fall > between the rings of your Sugino. -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread RJM
this was actually going to be my next question. Do you think I should just use the 8 speed chain that I have already (take a link out or two) or go with the 10 speed? Will a ten speed chain work with a 7 speed freewheel? I do love the fact that with friction shifting it makes it so much eas

[RBW] Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Homer Hilsen? Is it just a Hilsen without good rack mounts? Does Rivendell keep an archive of older stuff somewhere on their site? -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Any New York Rivendellish shops?

2012-04-11 Thread Chris
I bought a toddler helmet for my son at Adeline. It's set up more like a fashion/clothing store (which is the owner's background) than a bike shop. Super comfortable to browse in there. It lacks the technical inclination of a Rivish shop, though. Accessories offerings include quite a few bab

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread dougP
Ryan: There was a thread a couple of years (or more?) back entitled "Is the Ram the perfect bike?" or something similar. Generated a lot of responses. Check the archives. dougP On Apr 11, 10:33 am, Ryan Ray wrote: > I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like > may

[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread Tom M
They both sound like great bikes, but I think Rivendell was late to the single-speed party. The Quickbeam copy says something about single-speed riders getting tired of their bikes and the QB being a better alternative to single-speeds. Then, a few years later, comes the Simple One. I think the

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
Jim (Cyclefiend and keeper of this list) has the a very good page on the Ram on his website http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html If I remember correctly the AHH compared to the Ram has slightly stouter tubing, wider clearance for tires and fenders (built around the Silver brake) a

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
I have came to accept that occasionally walking up (and sometimes down) hills is part of the ss/ fixed gear experience. I think that adds to the beautiful simplicity of such a bike. Just my two cents. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I agree: the long axle slot, prefer

Re: [RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
A 10 sp chain will work with any ~3/32 cogset, from 5 to 10. It's when using "lower number" chains with "higher number" cogsets that you sometimes (not always -- I've found that 9 sp chains work fine on some 10 sp cassettes) have problems. Odd: the Surley Dingle 2-speed fixed cog needs at least a

Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
I've often wanted to try pegs on a fixed gear for coasting, like on this old beauty: http://events.mnhs.org/Timepieces/SourceDetail.cfm?SourceID=694 But how? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:48 PM, clyde canter wrote: > I have came to accept that occasionally walking up (and sometimes down) > hills i

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
So, how does the Ram compare with the Roadeo in fast pavement performance? Would someone who wants a (1) 700c, (2) light-ish, (3) derailleur Rivendell for fast-ish road riding be better off with a Roadeo or a Ram? I realize that the Ram is no longer made, so we are comparing a new Roadeo with a us

[RBW] Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread William
Silvers on the insides, retro-beauties on the outside. I hope Riv stocks them as well http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dia-compe-ene-w-dt-shifters.html I'm going to have to count how many Suntour Sprints I have and decide if it's time to stock up again, because these things are slick!

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
In the "good old days" when I started following Riv, maybe 2004 or so, Riv had 2 models: the Atlantis, which was the "touring and rough stuff bike", and the Rambouillet, which was the Riv for riding mostly on paved roads with 28 mm tires. I assume that the Ram and Roadeo geometry are similar, b

[RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread Michael_S
Those are nice in case I run out. I have one extra Simplex Retro's and one Suntour Sprints in reserve. They would look nice as bar ends too. ~mike On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:18:55 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > Silvers on the insides, retro-beauties on the outside. I hope Riv stocks > them

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Greg J
Aside from the original Riv Road in the late 90s and the introduction of the Roadeo a few years ago, the Rambouillet was the standard road bike in Riv's lineup. Which meant lighter than the Atlantis. It takes long reach calipers, 43 stays I think, 77 or 78 drop, but with the relaxed Riv angles

Re: [RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
I may be wrong, but I think I read somewhere you can use the narrower chain on the wider cassettes, but not the other way around, So if that's the case even if they change the space for the chain on the deraillers one should still be able to backwards apply the technology. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 a

Re: [RBW] Re: Using modern derailers

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
I'm not seeing all the posts. I see NOW others have posted essentially the same thing. Sorry. What's up with my Gmail? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM, clyde canter wrote: > I may be wrong, but I think I read somewhere you can use the narrower > chain on the wider cassettes, but not the other

[RBW] WTB 46cm soba handlebar

2012-04-11 Thread dean899
would like to buy a 46cm soba handlebar please let me know if you have one to sell. thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

[RBW] Re: 58cm Quickbeam FS

2012-04-11 Thread ageorgestew...@gmail.com
In response to a few questions I've received... Photographs readily available for the asking, and yes, they show the setup of the stem and Moustache bars. My inside leg is 32", height is 5ft 9.5 inches and it fits perfectly, with plenty of room to go up or down. Without Graftons, subtract $200. Y

[RBW] fs: Brooks B17 saddle in green - beautiful shape!

2012-04-11 Thread Eric
Brooks B17 saddle w/ copper rivets & copper plated rails and it's GREEN! I purchased this to bring out the British Racing green on my Indy Fab but it just looked wrong. I mounted it on my bike but never road w/ it. The saddle is very lightly used (as purchased) & in overall excellent shape. $90 s

[RBW] Spring Cleaning: Riv-ish items FS

2012-04-11 Thread Rob H.
Looked through the parts bin and have several things from projects that will never that I won't be needing so I'm looking to see if anyone here is interested in them: SKS Chromplastic Fenders P45, can fit tires up to 37mm I believe. New in packaging: $25 for the pair Brooks Leather Mudflaps (blac

[RBW] fs: RIVENDELL ~ Baggins Little Joe and Duluth Banana bike bags

2012-04-11 Thread Eric
I just recently purchased these Rivendell Baggins bike bags but after receiving them I found my Sackville bags to be preferable. So let's find 'em a new home! >From the original listing: "Baggins Little Joe and Banana Bags for auction. The Baggins Bags were originally made for Rivendell. These ar

[RBW] Re: Albatross bars

2012-04-11 Thread Thomas Skean
+1 for the Albatross bar. I have both the CrMo and the Al. On mine, the widths are different (they are from a different era, perhaps not even (gasp!) from RBW). Al is either 54cm or 55cm and CrMo is 56cm. Switching directly from one to the other, I can tell the width difference. But I can't tel

[RBW] Re: Any New York Rivendellish shops?

2012-04-11 Thread kolbyt
Bespoke Bicycles in Fort Greene On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:32:48 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. > Like any good couple we already picked a day "to ourselves" where we get to > see the beauty of New York without each oth

[RBW] Re: stuck stem on Homer

2012-04-11 Thread Tim
I've already had it at my LBS for 3 days of soaking and attempts. The next step from them is to send it home for the week with their 71 year old part time mechanic (he only works on Mondays and Fridays, so he takes it home Monday...) which is what I may ultimately have to do but I'd really like to

[RBW] Re: Albatross bars

2012-04-11 Thread Duplomacette
Thanks guys! Are most of you using the aluminum? On Apr 9, 7:26 pm, Smitty <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alba bars... I use them... I love them. I'll second the statement about > using the front curves for a more forward/aggressive/climbing position. I > use it nearly as much as the "normal" positi

[RBW] Re: Albatross bars

2012-04-11 Thread Kieran J
I'm also curious about the steel vs. the Al version, ie. is there a discernable difference in rigidity between the two? Is the reason for the two models simply a weight-saving one? Not sure if anyone has ever had both, and compared. If so, do tell! KJ On Apr 6, 3:42 pm, Duplomacette wrote: > I'

Re: [RBW] Knee trouble

2012-04-11 Thread dean brock
Before surgery I would check into prolotherapy and prolo ozone therapy. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:07 PM, soapscum wrote: > Hi, > I'm an infrequent poster, but longtime reader and I'm hoping I'm not > the first person to go through this. Riv content: I ride a Hillborne. > I bought it new from Riv

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Interesting that it would be an "everyday, load-carrying type duty" bike without all the braze-ons usually associated with those activities. Either way I'm 6"6 195 lbs so a little stout tubing doesn't scare me. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:34:26 AM UTC-7, Greg J wrote: > > Aside

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread William
HappyC, I think you might have misread Greg J's sentence. He said the Roadeo is the light UNLOADED thing for people who have OTHER bikes to do the more stout stuff. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:43:14 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote: > > Interesting that it would be an "everyday, load-carrying

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
You're right. I did. Thanks. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:50:31 AM UTC-7, William wrote: > > HappyC, I think you might have misread Greg J's sentence. He said the > Roadeo is the light UNLOADED thing for people who have OTHER bikes to do > the more stout stuff. > > On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
One thing we tend to take a little for granted these days was the comparative lack of appropriate tires, brake and such which we are currently enjoying. At the time, the common brakes were typically short reach, and though the Rambouillet was designed for significant clearance, there was just n

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Rob H.
Ryan, If you're looking for something similar to the Ram I've read that the SOMA San Marcos is pretty close in lightness and zippiness. I hope to find this out for myself, maybe for christmas...And alas, like the Ram it has no mid-fork braze ons for a front rack. Nothing a couple of P clamps could

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Thanks for the responses. Some of those old threads helped out a bit. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:56:20 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > One thing we tend to take a little for granted these days was the > comparative lack of appropriate tires, brake and such which we are > c

[RBW] Re: titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Winds is tough. But, there are a large number of variables in that Klein vs Atlantis comparison. You could start with tire contact patch size, work through bottom bracket height and chainstay length, on up through stem length and saddle setback - all of which directly effect stability. When yo

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Michael_S
>From what I recall ( having owned a Ram) that the Ram and Hilsen were both made from the same wall thickness tubing ( 8-5-8). The Roadeo has thinner tubing from what I read. The Hilsen had better tire clearances. My Ram would only barely fit a Jack Brown in front w/o fender. The back would

[RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
my word, those ARE pretty. Wonder if they can be adapted to bar end use? On Apr 11, 11:18 am, William wrote: > Silvers on the insides, retro-beauties on the outside.  I hope Riv stocks > them as well > > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dia-compe-ene-w-dt-shifters.html > > I'm going to hav

RE: [RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
VO site has a version w/ pods http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/dia-compe-ene-w-bar-end-shifters.html -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Fitz Se

[RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
never mind, i see there is also a bar end version... On Apr 11, 11:18 am, William wrote: > Silvers on the insides, retro-beauties on the outside.  I hope Riv stocks > them as well > > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dia-compe-ene-w-dt-shifters.html > > I'm going to have to count how many S

[RBW] Re: Pretty new friction shifters are finally available

2012-04-11 Thread William
I just received a VO order today, too. I wish I had waited. I would have added a set of these. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:33:21 PM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > never mind, i see there is also a bar end version... > > On Apr 11, 11:18 am, William wrote: > > Silvers on the insides, retr

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread newenglandbike
I have an '83 sequoia that I stumbled upon in brand new condition at Bikes Not Bombs in Jamaica Plain a few years ago, and it gets ridden quite a bit.Not quite Rivendell geometry with it's steep ST angle-but it is a great bike, worth it if you can find one.I love mine- it handles

Re: [RBW] titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread Anne Paulson
I rode cross country with a fellow on a Seven titanium bike. It was fine, he was fine. I'm quite sure that the five pounds or whatever difference between a loaded Atlantis and a loaded Seven will make approximately zero difference in their handling in the wind. (I'm not saying they handle the same,

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Leslie
I'm not a lightweight; one of the things that GP had in the Roadeo description was "if you weigh 250, we're not going to sell one to you", or something to that effect. Grant would rather have seen me on a Hilsen over a Ram, but, I was leaning towards the roadbike side of the equation, and I'd

[RBW] Re: Done talking myself into like the moustache.

2012-04-11 Thread Leslie
I came across a little-used moustache for naught, and grabbed it. But, holding it, started thinking I wasn't sure about it. I've got Noodles on my Ram which I really like(wide 48's, I'm not a little guy), and was thinking of the moustache for the Bomba, but, started second-guessing it. I was

[RBW] Re: FS: panniers

2012-04-11 Thread Adam
A few bites but still have these panniers stored in my garage. $100 obo takes em. Irish straps included. Great bags, I'm just looking for panniers that can be carried one at a time. Pictures available by request. Thanks. On Mar 11, 10:18 am, Adam wrote: > Selling my Frost River canvas panniers

[RBW] Re: FS: panniers

2012-04-11 Thread Scot Brooks
I'd love to see photos, I'm definitely interested -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dOOn2djndDwJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread William
In a lot of ways I think of the Sequoia as the pinnacle of the 1980's American-style 'sport touring' bike. I was just getting my first bike shop job at the time, so I wasn't super tapped in to the industry, but I think it's very uncontroversial to say that the 1983 Sequoia has aged remarkably

Re: [RBW] titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread William
Anne nails it again. We still need to work on that gravity control knob. :) On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:59:39 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: > > I rode cross country with a fellow on a Seven titanium bike. It was > fine, he was fine. I'm quite sure that the five pounds or whatever > differe

[RBW] Re: Any New York Rivendellish shops?

2012-04-11 Thread sjauch
NYC Velo in the East Village is a great shop. They have lots of cool frames hanging up. On Apr 11, 1:33 pm, Chris wrote: > I bought a toddler helmet for my son at Adeline.  It's set up more like a > fashion/clothing store (which is the owner's background) than a bike shop. >  Super comfortable to

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
I'm looking forward to Rosco jokes like the following:   "Hey guys, I'll be back in a few minutes. I'm gonna dismount and take a walk to the back end of my Rosco and look for my camp stove." -Original Message- From: Esteban Sent: Apr 11, 2012 10:26 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Re: [RBW] Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
I don't know how the Ram compares to the Roadeo, but it is a bit different from the Hilsen. It's quicker than the Hilsen, but the difference is subtle. From about 2002 to about 2008, Rambouillet was the Rivendell "Road Bike." When they put it to sleep, Hilsen filled in for it as the "almost road

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread William
Me: "Hey honey, I'm going to go on an S24O on my Bombadil" She: "OK, be careful. Where are you going?" Me: "It's just a couple hour ride. I'm riding the Bombadil back to the rear end of the Rosco Bubbe. That's where the tent is." She: "What if I need to get in touch with you?" Me: "Well,

Re: [RBW] titanium for touring

2012-04-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
If i could magically subtract 5 lbs from my derriere, i would too. Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: William Sent: Wed Apr 11 15:26:02 CDT 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] titanium for touring Anne nails it again. W

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
Compared to what came later, the only functional "drawback" of the Ram is tire clearance, and it's not really a drawback compared to the rest of the world. The Ram can ONLY take 700x33.3's without fenders. Rivendells evolved since the Ram's inception in 2001, and both AHH and Roadeo beat o

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread JL
IMHO The Roadeo is not a direct Decendant of the Rambouillet but Rivendell does tend to make bikes with overlap. The geometry of any bikes tends to fluctuate a little over the size range so it is important to consider the size when making a comparison. The AHH could be seen as a re-evaluation of

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
Great point. When the Ram came out, things had not evolved as much as they are now. Much has happened since 2001 when the Ram was hatched.   The Ram was the best at the time for versatility in a road bike even though it "only" had standard reach brakes - but hey, way more versatile than short rea

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
Big-sized Roadeos have same tubing thickness as Ram. -Original Message- From: Michael_S Sent: Apr 11, 2012 12:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? From what I recall ( having owned a Ram) that the Ram an

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
"Big-sized Roadeos have same tubing thickness as Ram." Great info. Thanks. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:37:40 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: > > Big-sized Roadeos have same tubing thickness as Ram. > > -Original Message- > From: Michael_S > Sent: Apr 11, 2012 12:26 PM > T

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
In the largest size (size region where the OP is interested), the Ram and Roadeo are pretty similar: Same angles in seat and head tube, same toptube, 1 cm different in chainstay, 4 mm different in BB drop, not sure of the trail, but I'll be they are similar. -Original Message- >From:

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Do you have those spec from the Ram handy? Not that it matters. I rode it, loved it. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:48:10 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: > > > In the largest size (size region where the OP is interested), the Ram and > Roadeo are pretty similar: Same angles in seat and

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
Which Sequoia? My wife rides an '83 and loves it. I think we paid around that for her bike, but it's been a while. I think the Sequoia and the Trek 620 were the hi water marks for sport-touring bikes in the '80's and the improvements on their design has been marginal since then. Michael O

[RBW] Fwd: [BOB] Mini Pumps 4 sale

2012-04-11 Thread clyde canter
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Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Esteban
The Rosco bike is a sublime ride - like a hammock. Everyone should try it - it will surprise you. It will also make terms like "toe-clip overlap" and "heel-stirke" useless. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:17:55 PM UTC-7, William wrote: > > Me: "Hey honey, I'm going to go on an S24O on my Bomb

[RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning: Riv-ish items FS

2012-04-11 Thread Rob H.
A couple other items: Velo-Orange Campagne handlebar bag, never used: $90 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-campagne-handlebar-bag.html Nitto R-10 rear bag support, keeps your saddlebag (like a Nigel Smythe, Sackville, or Carradice) from hitting your tire. Clamps on the seat post and conn

[RBW] Re: Specialized Sequoia

2012-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
This is an 83 ( I think). So what I am gathering is that is similar to a Ram in function but a bit more generic in looks? On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:55:45 PM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote: > > Which Sequoia? My wife rides an '83 and loves it. I think we paid around > that for her bike, but it's b

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread Joe Bunik
Yo' Rosco sooo lng he's got a peg leg AND a kickstand. On 4/11/12, Esteban wrote: > The Rosco bike is a sublime ride - like a hammock. Everyone should try it > - it will surprise you. It will also make terms like "toe-clip overlap" > and "heel-stirke" useless. > > On Wednesday, April 11, 20

Re: [RBW] Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

2012-04-11 Thread franklyn
How long is really the chainstay? Grant only wrote that some sizes will have chainstays longer than 46cm. My wife's 1982 Trek 720 has a chainstay of 47cm, and you can definitely see and feel that extra length. One place where one experiences issue is chain length. A brand new SRAM 970 chain out

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
I think Grant always wants to design and promote versatility, no matter which end of the spectrum he is designing at. When I bought my Ram, Riv literature touted its ability as both a smooth fast road bike and a stable trail bike. Likewise they promoted the Atlantis as a touring bike that was

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I have both the Ram and (hilsen) Saluki. The lugsets, tubing, and geometries are a bit different. My Ram is currently (unfendered) running 37 mm Paselas with apparent space to maybe put a 38 in. I have not tried. It's heavier than a Roadro and more versatile. Mine has 9k miles of happy riding o

[RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning: Riv-ish items FS

2012-04-11 Thread Scot Brooks
I'll take the leather mudflaps. No idea how to PM from the mobile version of groups. scothinck...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Somehow we've completely missed a big difference between the Hilsen and the Ram. (attached photo) On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: > > I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like > maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Hom

[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread reynoldslugs
I ride both a Rambouillet and a Roadeo. They are two of my favorite bikes. Their rides are very similar - - riding on 32mm Schwalbe Kojaks for both bikes. Both bikes see lots of use on crummy Sonoma County Roads. It is an utter joy to ride smooth, light, comfortable steel bikes that easily fit

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
Is this real? I'm well aware of modifications and variations, but I'm still pretty surpised to see a 2TT Ram. I know there have been some repaired with second tubes added, but I didn't know they ever got the standard decals and paint. Pretty cool! And it looks good.   -Original Message- F

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