HappyC, I think you might have misread Greg J's sentence.  He said the 
Roadeo is the light UNLOADED thing for people who have OTHER bikes to do 
the more stout stuff.  

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:43:14 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote:
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> Interesting that it would be an "everyday, load-carrying type duty" bike 
> without all the braze-ons usually associated with those activities. Either 
> way I'm 6"6 195 lbs so a little stout tubing doesn't scare me.
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> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:34:26 AM UTC-7, Greg J wrote:
>>
>> Aside from the original Riv Road in the late 90s and the introduction of 
>> the Roadeo a few years ago, the Rambouillet was the standard road bike in 
>> Riv's lineup.  Which meant lighter than the Atlantis.  It takes long reach 
>> calipers, 43 stays I think, 77 or 78 drop, but with the relaxed Riv angles. 
>>  I'm sure the specs are on Cyclofiend's site.  The Saluki and AHH are 
>> supposed to be stouter than the Ramb.
>>
>> The Roadeo came much later, and it is much much lighter than the Ram. 
>>  The Ram was marketed as the road bike for everyone.  the Roadeo is the 
>> road bike for those who want a light (20lbs) bike, who have other bikes 
>> that can do the everyday, load-carrying type duty.
>>
>> Greg
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>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like 
>>> maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Homer Hilsen? Is it just 
>>> a Hilsen without good rack mounts? Does Rivendell keep an archive of older 
>>> stuff somewhere on their site?
>>
>>

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