On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM, CycloFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/1/08 5:21 PM, Doug Peterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Are the old Bullseye pulleys still around? Used those with 6 & 7 speeds.
>
> I was actually going to pull an old Bullseye out of another semi-retired
> derai
Quoting Ray Shine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Not to mention no traffic! I hear you. Maybe someday…
>
> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dirt roads can be enormous fun. Great scenery, and you definitely won't
> be bored.
We dp see traffic on the dirt roads we ride:
on 12/1/08 5:21 PM, Doug Peterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do you suggest using a pulley with less play than the standard Shimano in
> the upper position? I'm using bar end friction shifters with 8 speed HG,
> and do get the odd ghost shift, usually standing up to climb a short grade
> or ot
Not to mention no traffic! I hear you. Maybe someday…
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 1
Steve has summed up my experience pretty well. I had no problem
shifting a Campy NR derailleur with a 7 speed Suntour FW back in the
day. Now, my Miyata with Silver bar end shifters and a 7 speed HG
cassette is very quiet, but fussy to shift and prone to ghost
shifting. The 8 speed indexed bar
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 17:20 -0800, Ray Shine wrote:
> Well, Steve, that explains some of the difference of opinion. You
> actually ride on dirt roads and such. My experience on dirt and/or
> gravel is very limited. 98.5% of my riding is on paved roads. I
> generally have plenty of time to size
If you are running friction shifting, you might try the pulley swap to move
the floating pulley to the lower position.
--
Jim Edgar
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Jim:
Do you suggest using a pulley with less play than the standard Shimano in
the upper position? I'm using bar end friction shifters with
dirt, it
appears more problematic. I've never owned or ridden a mountain bike, so I
can't compare the two.
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techie
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 15:44 -0800, Ray Shine wrote:
> I agree with Michael -- Now that I'm in friction mode, my shifts are
> faster, sure, and QUIET! I also do not have a problem shifting up or
> down while riding grades. Believe me, I live and ride in San
> Francisco, and I ride some sort of g
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 15:31 -0800, MichaelH wrote:
> I rarely get a ghost shift on my Ram, with slver dt shifters and an
> ultegra hg casette.; but I do get it on my Ebisu with silver bar ends
> and the same hg casette.
> I would dispute those who claim index
> shifting is faster. With contem
u everyone for these responses. I'm learning a lot. I had never
before heard the term "hyper-glide." I keep on learning…
Ray
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all
I rarely get a ghost shift on my Ram, with slver dt shifters and an
ultegra hg casette.; but I do get it on my Ebisu with silver bar ends
and the same hg casette. I would dispute those who claim index
shifting is faster. With contemporary cogs I rarely miss a shift, and
I can throw the chain ac
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 14:44 -0800, George Schick wrote:
> " ... It's Hyperglide
> that's doing it. Hyperglide is designed so that the chain can and
> routinely does sit on two sprockets at the same time, something that
> will generate tremendous noise with old timey sprockets ..."
>
> Hi
" ... It's Hyperglide
that's doing it. Hyperglide is designed so that the chain can and
routinely does sit on two sprockets at the same time, something that
will generate tremendous noise with old timey sprockets ..."
Hif this is the case is there any benefit from changing the
Shimano ca
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:30 -0800, George Schick wrote:
> " Hyperglide, on the other hand, gives little if any feedback when
> you
> aren't centered, and ghost shifts are common, especially after you
> downshift for a stop and then load the drivetrain when you start up
> again "
>
> Yes,
ing.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: Ray Shine
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:59 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
All of your various responses have been quite informative. Thank you
all. But all of this
on 12/1/08 12:30 PM, George Schick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> " Hyperglide, on the other hand, gives little if any feedback when
> you
> aren't centered, and ghost shifts are common, especially after you
> downshift for a stop and then load the drivetrain when you start up
> again "
" Hyperglide, on the other hand, gives little if any feedback when
you
aren't centered, and ghost shifts are common, especially after you
downshift for a stop and then load the drivetrain when you start up
again "
Yes, this happens to me all the time and it makes me nuts. Having
carefull
Ray:
How many speeds?
Also, did you try using the bar ends in friction mode?
dougP
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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:13 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Shifter Observation f
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 08:59 -0800, Ray Shine wrote:
> All of your various responses have been quite informative. Thank you
> all. But all of this discussion begs the question; what is the
> advantage of indexed shifters over friction? In my mind, there is
> none, and I now give the edge to fr
on 11/30/08 9:12 PM, Ray at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As some of you may recall, I was having the worst auto-shifting
> problem with the Shimano bar-end shifters on my Canti-Rom. i tried
> all of the usual fixes, including new cables, fine adjustments to the
> derailer, etc., but the problem per
/1/08, John McMurry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: John McMurry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:52 AM
On Dec 1, 12:12 am, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As
On Dec 1, 12:12 am, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As some of you may recall, I was having the worst auto-shifting
> problem with the Shimano bar-end shifters on my Canti-Rom. i tried
> all of the usual fixes, including new cables, fine adjustments to the
> derailer, etc., but the problem persi
age]
> From: MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Date: 12/1/2008 6:17:58 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
>
>
> So pardon what may be a dumb question, but how do you align the upper
> and lower cogs with the cable remo
then, that the derailer is aligned
properly.
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 6:03
t; Rene
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:
> > Date: 11/30/2008 9:58:05 PM
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
>
> >
> Thank you, Rene, for the detailed info. If I were inclined to give
> indexing another go, I would certainly follow your instructions. But,
> your detailed instructions are precisely why I don't want to go back
> to indexing; too much fiddle-faddle, finicky stuff about it all. I
> like simple.
le. I believe I am now a
friction shifter for life! :)
RS
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:57 PM
Give index
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: "RBW Owners Bunch"
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 11:23 PM
We've recently seen some defective Shimano bar-end shifters that don't
hold to the index stops after a few hundred miles of use. They work
fine in frictio
We've recently seen some defective Shimano bar-end shifters that don't
hold to the index stops after a few hundred miles of use. They work
fine in friction. If the shifter itself doesn't seem to click sharply
from one click to the next, this could be your issue. Personally, I
shift in friction alm
> Date: 11/30/2008 9:58:05 PM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
>
>
> Give index shifting another chance. Try this:
>
> Remove the chain. Clean chain and cogset. With the chain removed, and
> viewing it from the rear, align the upper pulley
Give index shifting another chance. Try this:
Remove the chain. Clean chain and cogset. With the chain removed, and
viewing it from the rear, align the upper pulley of the derailleur on the
biggest and smallest cogs. Make sure the alignment on the biggest cog is
spot on. The alignment on the smal
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