On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 12:30 -0800, George Schick wrote:
> ".... Hyperglide, on the other hand, gives little if any feedback when
> you
> aren't centered, and ghost shifts are common, especially after you
> downshift for a stop and then load the drivetrain when you start up
> again ...."
> 
> Yes, this happens to me all the time and it makes me nuts.  Having
> carefully adjusted the derailler for proper alignment, lubricated the
> cable guides under the BB shell to excess, it still happens and I
> blame it, for the most part, on frame flex (this is a Rambouillet). 


There is simply no way it's frame flex.  The Rambouillet frame is
notably stiff, far more so than traditional standard-diameter 531
frames, and they don't ghost-shift when you use old timey freewheels.
The ghost shifting that was driving me crazy was on an AM-series
Moulton, and you may be sure, that space frame is one of the stiffest
structures that ever had 2 wheels hung off of it.  It's Hyperglide
that's doing it.  Hyperglide is designed so that the chain can and
routinely does sit on two sprockets at the same time, something that
will generate tremendous noise with old timey sprockets.







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