I agree with Michael -- Now that I'm in friction mode, my shifts are faster, 
sure, and QUIET!  I also do not have a problem shifting up or down while riding 
grades.  Believe me, I live and ride in San Francisco, and I ride some sort of 
grade or hill or even mountain 70-80% of the time.  I love the friction mode, 
and don't have some of these problems others are referring to.  For 
clarification, the Romulus is the one I am referring to with Bar-ends in 
friction mode.  My Atlantis has the silver DT shifters, also in friction.  The 
trouble I was having was on the Rom.

Thank you everyone for these responses.  I'm learning a lot.  I had never 
before heard the term "hyper-glide."  I keep on learning…

Ray

--- On Mon, 12/1/08, MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Shifter Observation for all of you Techies
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 3:31 PM

I rarely  get a ghost shift on my Ram, with slver dt shifters and an
ultegra hg casette.; but I do get it on my Ebisu with silver bar ends
and the same hg casette.  I would dispute those who claim index
shifting is faster.  With contemporary cogs I rarely miss a shift, and
I can throw the chain across the entire range with one quick move,
which you can't do with sis.

michael

On Dec 1, 5:54 pm, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 14:44 -0800, George Schick wrote:
> > " ... It's Hyperglide
> > that's doing it.  Hyperglide is designed so that the chain can
and
> > routinely does sit on two sprockets at the same time, something that
> > will generate tremendous noise with old timey sprockets ..."
>
> > Hmmmm....if this is the case is there any benefit from changing the
> > Shimano cassette to a SRAM?  They're cheaper and I've heard
"rumors"
> > that they do not have some of those Hyperglide-like issues.
>
> Don't they also have Hyperglide-like ramps and cutouts?  


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