[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-03 Thread MichaelH
n Silver and square taper, although the chainring appears to be black. > > Joe > > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:12:49 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet > From: cyclotour...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > A, my eyes... they hurt

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-03 Thread Joe Bartoe
most part. See the crank here: http://www.whiteind.com/cranks/roadcranks.html It's even Silver and square taper, although the chainring appears to be black. Joe Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:12:49 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet From: cyclotour...@gmail.com To: r

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-03 Thread usuk2007
Sure I could put a guard on the outer position, but I don't like the way they look and there's really no need for one given that I'm on the road most of the time. Over shifting isn't an issue and the double configuration makes the gearing so much simpler. On a 42t ring I can ride 95% of any terrai

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-03 Thread MichaelH
I can't think of any reason why the 46 shouldn't work. You will get better shifting if you reposition the front derailleur down to about 0.5 mm above the 46. If the gearing works for you, go for it. As to the part of this discussion that has turned to cranks and other gear choices... I think

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-02 Thread David Estes
A, my eyes... they hurt But really, why get rid of the outside position? I would put a rock guard/bash ring on there. Seems a much better options than straight doing away with the ring. DE On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Garth wrote: > > With the popularity of 29ers, were seeing a st

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-02 Thread usuk2007
I've been running a Sugino 110/74 as a 42/26 double for years. With a 11/34 cassette I get 103" to 21" which is good for day rides and touring. http://wheelsofchance.org/2009/08/28/if-the-answer-is-42-whats-the-question/ On Sep 1, 10:54 pm, Fai Mao wrote: > I prefer a 48/38/24 triple. > > You

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Fai Mao
I prefer a 48/38/24 triple. You have to be a little carefull shifting and use a friction front as no indexing will work with that. However, there are some steep hills up bad roads in Southern China where I live and a little lower gear is a good thing. I also like he 38 tooth chain wheel better th

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Horace
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:33 PM, GeorgeS wrote: > > Back in the day our standard setup was 52/50 unless we were going > north to the hills when we went 52/48 or 46.  Real men (not me) sprung > for the 55 big one. > GeorgeS > Yeah, but your small cog was 13 at best, giving you a 108-inch big gear i

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread GeorgeS
Back in the day our standard setup was 52/50 unless we were going north to the hills when we went 52/48 or 46. Real men (not me) sprung for the 55 big one. GeorgeS On Sep 1, 4:51 pm, Mike wrote: > It's weird to feel that 50t is big considering for years I rode a bike > with a double that was 53

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Ryan Watson
I use 46/30 on the bikes I ride the most and it's the bees knees! Two cranks with 50.4 bcd and one 94 bcd, with 12-28 8sp cassettes. I use the entire range and have never wished for a lower gear (at least on the road) and only rarely wish for higher. Ryan On Sep 1, 2009, at 13:35, Mike wrot

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Garth
It seems a 94 BCD crank would serve many people better these days. Rings from 30t to 50t are available. Again . . .the surge of 29ers may make more available again. Sugino used to make 94/58 triples when they were in vogue. . . but like many manufacturers once Shimano ditched it. . .everyone

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Mike
It's weird to feel that 50t is big considering for years I rode a bike with a double that was 53/39 but it just does. I'm not so concerned with chasing people down. Sure, I get a bit spun out on descents but I'm fine with that. I'm able to go more than fast enough. I just ordered a 46. Worse that

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread reynoldslugs
You will be surpised at how little you need a 50, or even a 46. I am running two bikes with a 28/42 ultra compact double up front, with an 11-34 cassette in the back. While this combo may sound wierd, it gives a completely usable range of gears from 22 to 100 inches. The bikes in question are a

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Arthur Lewy
I use an XD double with 46/34 tooth rings and an old Sun Tour Cyclone front dérailleur (with a 107 mm BB) on my Ramb and it shifts very well. Art Lewy On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Mike wrote: > > So I'm currently running my Rambouillet with a double crankset (50/34) > and an 8 speed casset

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Joe Bartoe
A while back, I pondered the gearing question, especially the 50T big ring. I eventually switched over to a 46T to see how that went. I HATED it. I felt like I was always spinning it out, especially downhill, or with a nice tailwind, or while I was riding behind other riders at a high pace. I

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Garth
With the popularity of 29ers, were seeing a start of some 110/74 doubles. The are essentially a refined 110/74 triple just made so you cannot put an outer ring on them. It's just as easy to not put a outer ring on your triple and you at least have an option to go back. Here's some from Rotor .

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Mike
Thanks for the input. I totally agree with both of the Steves, that the gearing is baffling but that it's designed for racers. Still, I think most folks would be pleasantly surprised at how well a 46 suits their needs. My Hilsen has a triple that's like 46/36/26 and I love the 46 outer. There was

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Ryan Watson
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:50, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 10:17 -0700, Steve Park wrote: >> It baffles me that compact double cranksets usually come as 50/36 or >> maybe 48/34; maybe this is a limitation of typical 110BCD bolt >> diameter. > > 34T is the smallest you can get

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 10:17 -0700, Steve Park wrote: > It baffles me that compact double cranksets usually come as 50/36 or > maybe 48/34; maybe this is a limitation of typical 110BCD bolt > diameter. 34T is the smallest you can get on the 110mm bolt circle. The 50T, typically coupled with an 11

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Park
It baffles me that compact double cranksets usually come as 50/36 or maybe 48/34; maybe this is a limitation of typical 110BCD bolt diameter. In any case, a 50 or 48 outer ring is still pretty hard to turn, and 36 is not low enough for my taste. For those, like myself, that just don't like tripl

[RBW] Re: Outer ring on Rambouillet

2009-09-01 Thread Bruce
The Rams pre-kitted at RBW came with a 48/36/26 Sugino triple. That's how mine is, and 48 works great for me with a 12 - 27 rear setup (also the original issue)  To answer your question, yes a 46 compact (110 bcd) will work. See deatiled tables at Harris Cyclery for chain wheels. --- On Tue, 9/