[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-12 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 11, 5:14 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: > There's a key word to focus on in that article: racing. > In elite/pro level racing, weight definitely makes a difference. > For light weight, carbon and Ti simply win over steel. ?? http://www.ultracycling.com/equipment/frames.html this article was abou

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:06 PM, MichaelH wrote: > > Even though I've done a bunch of 200K rides, mostly with lots of > mountains, and usually around 7 hours; when I'm done I can't grasp why > someone would want to ride one wheel length further. For the record, > my last 200 K was two years ago

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread MichaelH
Even though I've done a bunch of 200K rides, mostly with lots of mountains, and usually around 7 hours; when I'm done I can't grasp why someone would want to ride one wheel length further. For the record, my last 200 K was two years ago at the age of 63. Now I'm trying to come back from foot su

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Lesli
I was on the Riv custom at the back of the pack. No hallucinations if you ride at a nice, humane (14 mph) pace. Always tough to see Mike's photos of open businesses (like the taco place in Independence) which were closed by the time of my (much later) arrival. Only three women on the ride (incl

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Gino Zahnd
There's a key word to focus on in that article: racing. In elite/pro level racing, weight definitely makes a difference. For light weight, carbon and Ti simply win over steel. :-) -Gino "only owns steel bikes, even the racy ones" Zahnd On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Patrick in VT wrote:

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 11, 2:07 pm, "Ralph Rognstad Jr." wrote: > figure out what is right for you. I have picked up good tips on the > UltraMarathon Cycling Association site: > > http://www.ultracycling.com/training/training.html yes, there are some good tips there - but, this site highlights the different a

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Mike wrote: > > Sorry, i just realized I totally put in the wrong finishing time. I > think my brain was shot. I did the ride in 18hrs 44 mins. A strong > ride if I say so myself but nowhere near 12hrs. I clearly don't want > to misrepresent myself. I think the fa

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Chicken Sandwich
Practice, desire and persistence. The biggest key is learning how to fuel yourself for consistent performace over long periods of time. At least it was for me. Chocolate milk forever!!! On 5/11/09, John Rikkers wrote: > Do you need to be genetically gifted to perform at that level, or are thes

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Lynne Fitz
I'd recommend those of you interested in our weird little corner of the cycling universe head on over to the Google randon group, and www.rusa.org. Or read a few blogs. Mike's is a good one. Mine is adequate. My friend Cecil's is also a good one. The Seattle International Randonneurs website

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
I think training is slightly different for each rider, so you need to figure out what is right for you. I have picked up good tips on the UltraMarathon Cycling Association site: http://www.ultracycling.com/training/training.html PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Well, I am suitably impressed. I doubt I'l

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread John Rikkers
Do you need to be genetically gifted to perform at that level, or are these feats the result of practice, desire and persistence? On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery < thill@gmail.com> wrote: > > When I signed in for a 200k last weekend, I noted that the 40 people >

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread RoadieRyan
20 MPH for 12 hours... WOW Dude! Chapeau, very impressive no wonder you were hallucinating for the last 25. Thanks for the Photoset. In reply to the sub thread I will be 45 in July. At 40 I did a double centruy in one day (STP) I usually do a century or every other year. This year I will try

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread Mike
My brain remains shot. I should add that the finishing times will be posted on the OR Randonneurs website within a day or so. Here's a link to their site if anyone is interested: http://www.orrandonneurs.org/ Again, sorry for the confusion about the finishing time. I will say that we knocked the

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen (w/time correction!)

2009-05-11 Thread Mike
Sorry, i just realized I totally put in the wrong finishing time. I think my brain was shot. I did the ride in 18hrs 44 mins. A strong ride if I say so myself but nowhere near 12hrs. I clearly don't want to misrepresent myself. I think the fastest time was like 13hrs 45 minutes but I could be wron

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 10, 8:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Patrick "but riding fixed gives you an advantage of a factor of >10" Moore I actually enjoy doing long distance fixed gear riding. it's like having a built in pacing mechanism. and, unless the terrain is really hilly, my finishing times aren't substan

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Larry Powers
when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a double back flip" - John Hiatt > From: tim...@bitstream.net > Subject: [RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:30:54 -0500 > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > O

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Well, I am suitably impressed. I doubt I'll ever be interested in riding 250 miles, tho' one of these days I'd like to do my first century; but I am certainly impressed at y'all's stamina. I'm an agressive rider, but I don't ride more than 35 miles at a time (tho' all my riding is fixed or ss off

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-11 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 10, 2009, at 11:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: >> [...] My >> time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors >> with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, >> finished in just under 14hrs! > > You did 400 km (250 mil

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
When I signed in for a 200k last weekend, I noted that the 40 people who signed in ahead of me were in general 15-30 years older (I'm 32). Of the people who finished within the time limit, I was among the last. The guy who finished a few minutes after me was about a year younger than me, and may h

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Chicken Sandwich
Yea, really! That's a very strong ride. My best time for a 400K is 18 hours. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: >> [...] My >> time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors >> with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal.

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Chicken Sandwich
38 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how > old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscrib

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
Wow, way to put it in perspective! On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: > > [...] My > > time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors > > with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, > > finished in

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
Yeah, no doubt, Mike. You're a freaking mutant! On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:32 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > > You did 400 km (250 miles) in 12 hrs 44 mins?  That's an average speed > of 19.5 mph.  That's equivalent to a 5-hour century, but maintaining > the same rate over 250 miles. > > My hats off to

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread benzzoy
On May 10, 6:54 pm, Mike wrote: > [...] My > time for the event was 12hrs 44mins which qualified me for R70 honors > with 10 minutes to spare which was my goal. One guy, on a recumbent, > finished in just under 14hrs! You did 400 km (250 miles) in 12 hrs 44 mins? That's an average speed of 19.5

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread BPustow
It's not just cycling. The same applies to ultra running (50k, 50 miles, 100miles). Many of the competitors are the same ages listed here. In a message dated 5/10/2009 8:38:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, proto...@gmail.com writes: With cycling, age doesn't seem to matter much...unless its

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Mike
For a randonneur I'm on the younger side--42. There were times when I was riding alone but for the most part I kept riding with various folks that seemed to range in age from the late 20s to the... oh I'll say mid to late 50s. The older guys were strong as hell. I think there's a lot to say for ex

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for the responses. I'm 54, and I guess I have no excuse. Patrick "but riding fixed gives you an advantage of a factor of 10" Moore --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To p

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Esteban
I'm 35, and have ridden centuries and want to start riding some brevets next season. I know on my regular road route, the guys passing me on their cervelos are usually older than my parents. With cycling, age doesn't seem to matter much...unless its racing. On May 10, 4:40 pm, Lynne Fitz wrote

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
(for the record, I did not do that particular ride. I have done others ) I'm 53. My riding buddy who did the ride in just over 21 hours is, oh, 48. She rides a custom Sweetpea which weighs a ton. More than my fully-loaded Bleriot. Two other women on the ride, at least one in her 50's. Four wo

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Gino Zahnd
I've ridden some brevets and centuries on my (relatively) lightweight Saluki. No doubles though. I'll be 35 in June. Bike weight: 24.5lbs w/fenders, front rack and Schmidt hub/light. Here's a photo, minus the hub/light: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/3352703418/sizes/l/ I could knock off

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread BPustow
A young and handsome 61. In a message dated 5/10/2009 5:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More **Recession-proof vacation i

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Joe Bartoe
'm 42 so do I count as old? Or am I just a know-nothing whippersnapper? Joe Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:36:14 -0600 Subject: [RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen From: bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.
56 PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): > how old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RB

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Eric Norris
I've done about 150 double centuries--I will be riding my 26th Davis Double next weekend. I'm 49. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On May 10, 2009, at 2:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy > Rivs): ho

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Faller
Subject: [RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Randy Graves
65 PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): > how old are you? > > Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick "seeking for any excuse" More --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread David Estes
That's some toughness there, Mike! Brevet riders always amaze me as I'm usually wiped at 30 miles! You're awesome!!! DE On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Mike wrote: > > Yesterday I did my first 400k. Jeez, was that tough. The last 25 miles > were totally psychedelic. My Hilsen performed well

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread Esteban
Loved the slide show - looks like a beautiful day for some victorious suffering! On May 10, 11:04 am, rcnute wrote: > Well done!  I did a measly fifty yesterday (though it included Cougar > Mountain, probably the toughest climb right around Seattle) on the > Saluki and felt it.  Got my first sun

[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen

2009-05-10 Thread rcnute
Well done! I did a measly fifty yesterday (though it included Cougar Mountain, probably the toughest climb right around Seattle) on the Saluki and felt it. Got my first sunburn of the year too. On May 10, 10:56 am, Mike wrote: > Yesterday I did my first 400k. Jeez, was that tough. The last 25