[RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

That's brilliant Ryan! I enjoy the fact that an IT person eschews "smart" phones. I went the other way for a year or so. iPhone 4 with pay as you go voice only. No data plan. No internet at home and no TV. It was fantastic. I downloaded BBC radio podcasts at work via wifi. Also downloaded the

Re: [RBW] Re: Car-free week

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[RBW] Re: Dialing in stem for rough stuff

Oops...I see that the tusks were raised. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group

[RBW] Re: Dialing in stem for rough stuff

On the steely mammoth or the silvery Quickbeam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

Thanks for the write up. That was interesting. Tim On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Michael Morrissey < michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wrote a bit more about my new Rivendell on my blog: > > http://thedayweneverwenthome.blogspot.com/2016/06/riding-first-fifty-miles-fast-and-free.html >

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

My Bleriot seems to take front loads just fine. But I am interested in a lighter tubing frame for my next bike. So that means Roadeo or Low trail skinny tubed Boulder. Anyone want to trade their Roadeo for my Blue Hillborne?... didn't think so...ok. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] At least I'm consistant

I like using an iphone. I am not a tecky type person. Just have to remember to manually boost the brightness before heading put for a ride!! I like my Amazing Slow Downer, Weather, Alarm clock, clock, Planning Center Online (for church music rehearsal), Maps, RidewithGPS, Camera, iHandy Level, a

Re: [RBW] FS- 64cm Wisconsin borne Samuel Hillborne frameset

Rare as Hen's teeth! And now shipping for free to mainland addresses!! It's a great bike, take it around the world. Act soonish and get free mustache bars with your choice of long or short pull brake levers (to get the most from these cantilever brake posts) -Kai Brooklyn NY -- You received t

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

I have a hunqapillar and recently built up an ocean air rambler. I'm still playing with the bar height/stem length/seat height/seat setback combo for the rambler and I haven't been on a long ride yet so hard to draw any definitive conclusions. For context, I don't do rando rides, but I do ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Car-free week

I attribute the high $$$ largely to the trailer hitch that was the point of impact -- no spreading of the force of the impact broadly over both bumpers. Daughter rides a lot at the beach but is spooked by traffic on the roads in Wilmington and almost never rides here. One of my many parental fai

Re: [RBW] Re: Car-free week

Thanks! The Hilsen has Barlow Pass EL tires mounted to Open Pro rims, measuring maybe a mm more than the 38mm nominal size. I absolutely love them. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Ryan Fleming mailto:ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com>> wrote: Better the car than your daughter

Re: [RBW] Car-free week

Is she riding her bike as well? :-) On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Way to seize the day! Glad your daughter and everyone else is fine. 5mph = > thousands $$$? Gadzooks! Bring back steel fenders! No such thing as a > fender bender anymore. Wow. > > With abandon, > Patrick >

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

Ha. I suppose 'very big disadvantage' was a bit extreme. I carted my commuter up and down a lot of stairs that day. Eric On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 7:14:37 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > I think "off road" is a little broad. Yes, at some point on some terrain > somewhere, any particular

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

So, Tom, you like GP's "ways", the only thing you hate is... riding the bicycles he designs and sells. I guess you could say you're on topic. At least this once! Makes me wonder. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, tdusky wrote: > > > I hate riding my other bikes and I need to sell

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

Honjos. Totally worth it for the quality and to have something made in Japan. Skip several lunches out (bring a sandwich) and there's the difference. Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

CSI: The Fender Dent Files On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > The right brifter hit the left side of the fender though she veered left? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

The crease was to the left of the center of the fender. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > The right brifter hit the left side of the fender though she veered left? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

You are right, there are many potential variables. We are lucky to have two riders who weight the same, have the same height and the same power output: Mark and me. So if we ride next to each other on identical bikes, we ride at exactly the same speed. If the bikes are different, and one is fast

Re: [RBW] At least I'm consistant

I'm always tempted to toss my iPhone, but it does serve a bicycling (and thus On Topic) purpose: it's my ride computer for all my bikes. It also replaces watch, tablet, alarm clock, maps, Daytimer, compass, thermometer, shopping lists, and of course serves as the phone needed when you have a child

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Sugino, Shimano, Tektro, etc.

Another update here. A few things have been re-homed. I'm going to hang on to the dirt drop stem for now while I sort out my never-ending mountain bike build saga. Sorry to the interested parties for the runaround. I'm still seeking trades for: Nitto Technomic stem (80-100 mm reach), V-brakes (

Re: [RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

I love my big-screen smartypants phone. I'm a bit of a loner-type, and the access to a wider world via social media (like this one) has been a revelation for me. I like the conversations I can carry on on Twitter, plus the instant news updates that come with it. I'm a news/politics junkie, and a

[RBW] FS: 65 A. HOMER HILSEN; single top tube, Waterford built.

grow the herd, thin the herd, repeat. bought this and a 62 Hunq from a list member right around the same time a year and a half ago. i was working a ton & going through a break up. too much money to throw around, too little time spent riding & just too much overlap between the stablemates, as c

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

Nice ride report!! Great pics!! Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you hit just about all types of road riding terrain on the trip. Downhills, long climbs, flats, etc. I am guessing that some grades were in excess of 9%. Could you tell us how you used the choco moose(?) bars? How many hand posit

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

The right brifter hit the left side of the fender though she veered left? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@google

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

Thanks Jan, Did you test the Rando vs. Ti bikes by powering the bikes with riders? I know some of your studies have used small samples with human riders powering the vehicles. Is it possible that a study involving a human rider powering the bike will be reliable and valid in light of the fact

Re: [RBW] FS- 64cm Wisconsin borne Samuel Hillborne frameset

A green 64 with cantis! Those were rare, I think. Usually saw those in orange. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Kainalu wrote: > > Hi! > I've got a 65 Clem coming my way in July and was expecting to be riding this > Sam around until then, but then my appendix attacked, so I'm letting it go >

[RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

I wrote a bit more about my new Rivendell on my blog: http://thedayweneverwenthome.blogspot.com/2016/06/riding-first-fifty-miles-fast-and-free.html It also includes my $0.02 on test riding other Rivendells in Walnut Creek! Thank you for the kind words of encouragement with the bike! - michael

[RBW] Re: Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

I appreciate the heads up. I ordered one online. I have a bunch of Brooks saddles not currently on a bike but always wanted this one. Just was hesitant to pay the usual $170 or so for one. I also have the b67 select not on a bike. Guess I have saddle accumulation issues -- You received this m

[RBW] Re: Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

they last too long -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

Thank you Rene as this is very valuable ! I'm still trying to wrap my head around what these bikes handle like compared to the Bombadil I have. I also have another sport/touring type frame with less trail which handles like every racing bike frame I used to ride, which means the front end

Re: [RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

Couldn't agree with you guys more On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 4:07:15 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Ditto and ditto. If I want to do computing, I'll do it at home, with a > big monitor and a really nice clicking keyboard, rather than a screen the > size of a pocket cigar case and a to

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

OT on the trail...but I love that playing card suit crankset that green bike is rocking On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 12:46:16 AM UTC-5, James Chang wrote: > > Hi Reed, > > I've got both. A stouty Riv custom and a flexy low trial. Both I love. > They certainly feel different but 10 minutes o

[RBW] Re: Dialing in stem for rough stuff

On today's ride I raised my stem a cm (which also brings the bars back slightly. I think that may be the jam, the best of all possible worlds. Lots of climbing with single track, and it felt great. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 5:26:30 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I t

[RBW] Re: New Hunq 650b

What will the sizes be? On the instagram it claims to be a 53, and somebody asked about "the 59" like it's a think and Deacon says there is a 60. What are the nominal sizes? I was kind of tempted by the Hunqapillar at times, and thought the 54 was a little small, and the 58 was a little big.

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

Hi Garth, After my extensive research and e-mail exchanges with Jan, plus my experience with my Atlantis & Hunqapillar, for upright riding, the low trail target should be 40mm. The Rando bikes depicted usually have around 29mm of trail, meant for more forward positioning/fast riding with lower han

Re: [RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

Ditto and ditto. If I want to do computing, I'll do it at home, with a big monitor and a really nice clicking keyboard, rather than a screen the size of a pocket cigar case and a touchscreen with virtual keys that are too small and give no tactile feedback at all. For me, the ergonomics of mo

Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

Although Bill makes sensible suggestions (belt and suspenders), I don't predict the second calamity happening with a Nitto M12. The lower mounts of the M12 end in thick horizontal plates that slide over your brake post (not likely to pivot) and the upper mount of the M12 is a solid steel bolt that

[RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

Well, I'm a retired IT person and I don't consider myself a Luddite, but there comes a limit to how much I want to get caught up in the perpetual churn of electronic gadgets. I usually only carry the phone when I think I might need it for ad hoc or emergency communications anyway. On Wednesda

[RBW] Re: Car-free week

Way to seize the day! Glad your daughter and everyone else is fine. 5mph = thousands $$$? Gadzooks! Bring back steel fenders! No such thing as a fender bender anymore. Wow. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:58:35 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: > > > > Well, my 16 year-old new drive

[RBW] Re: New Hunq 650b

I talked with Riv yesterday, and they said that the new 60 Hunqapillar would have about 3cm longer chainstays than my original geometry 62 Hunqapillar. Sounds like it is mostly for increased tire clearance and won't be Appaloosa long. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:42:0

[RBW] Ride to the Lazy Spot

Big construction in town with lots of rumbly loud trucks. Fortunately I was doing well enough to try a ride and see how it went. Ended up riding an hour more of single track than I have so far this year, with the ride totaling 5 hours. Not much to tell, better to show. An amazing ride without a

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

Valerie, Thank you for sharing your experiences with the small panniers. I'm so tempted! Thinking they would pair well with my medium SV Saddlesack. Happy trails on your Joe App! Regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

I just have a flip phone and I barely use it...and am in no hurry to get a smart phonefunny for an IT person, eh? On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 12:58:52 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote: > > Yeah, they just re-introduced these "clam shell" phones a few years ago - > back by popular demand. Ap

Re: [RBW] Re: Car-free week

Better the car than your daughterI am glad no one was hurt With all the variety in your fleet the challenge will be picking a bike:) What tires on your Homer...looks like Compass tires which I'm getting very attached to... On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 2:36:46 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: > > Gr

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

There are at least two reasons to add a strap. One is for load support. I think Grant and Keven have both been fans of this. If you imagine an arbitrarily heavy load in a basket you imagine the basket and rack bending down and away from the handlebars. Run an Irish strap from the front edge

Re: [RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

Boy, if her brifter was able to hit your rear fender, she must have had her bars slammed lower than low! On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote: > > Patrick, She veered to the left when realizing I was stopping, her right > brifter lever glancing the fender left of center,

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

With the M12, I'd stick to the smaller basket, and even with that use straps to handlebar for full loads. David Chicago On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 1:58:40 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote: > > Hi all, thanks for the input, pretty much what i figured (mostly > intuition, common sense). i do have a plat

[RBW] Re: Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

Dang! Guess I have to run out and buy the B17. I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to t

Re: [RBW] Re: Car-free week

Great story! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Jon in central Colorado mailto:row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com>> wrote: Happy no one was hurt... I have a similar story...go back 49 years... Just got my license was rolling to a stop sign with a car in front of me. Creeping closer, not pa

[RBW] Re: Car-free week

Happy no one was hurt... I have a similar story...go back 49 years... Just got my license was rolling to a stop sign with a car in front of me. Creeping closer, not paying attention I tapped the car in front of me. It broke the tail light lens on her car. Just to show how prices have escalated th

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

Funny, I wasn't overwhelmed with the C17 on my Sam Hillborne, but love it on the Brompton. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 8:35:40 AM UTC+3, Joe Bernard wrote: > > That's a promising report, Chris. I agree it takes a couple weeks to get > "worked in" to a new saddle so I'll give it some time. If

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

Hi all, thanks for the input, pretty much what i figured (mostly intuition, common sense). i do have a platrack in the mix--and i never thought of using the top without the struts, may try that. i should have stated that my main question is around the canti-stud mount M12 (which is not platrac

[RBW] Re: Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

No! Say it isn't so. These are the best of the Brooks line. I just got another one a couple of weeks ago. A little sweat and it's already turning a nice honey brown. Sean ATX > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubsc

[RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

Yeah, they just re-introduced these "clam shell" phones a few years ago - back by popular demand. Apparently, a significant number of cell phone users became frustrated with the Android and Apple type phones that require you to fumble around and swipe the screen just to answer it. I'm right t

[RBW] Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

Really? Wow, I guess buyers didn't get the memo that the natural color darkens almost immediately. Bummer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] At least I'm consistant

The term "retro" is often used about Rivendell bikes. A term I happily agree with. So my ancient cell phone, a simple flip open model, just died. RIP. I went to the Sprint store for a replacement and, shock!, they have a couple of current models that are flip style and simple. Just what I want.

[RBW] Brooks B-17 Select & Champion Flyer Select Discontinued???

Rivendell says Brooks has discontinued these two models. I still see these on the Brooks web site, but the B-067 Select is gone. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

Thanks for all the replies. I tried out some noodles at the LBS and realized that they sweep backward slightly, which is probably what I liked about the rando bars. Another list member is selling me a used noodle and ill give it a whirl. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Paul G wrote: > This is true.

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

This is true. From the stem clamp to the beginning of the curve to the ramps, the Noodle bars actually slope downward slightly (like a Moustach bar, but not nearly as much) which results in the ramps being slightly lower for any given stem height. The amount is slight, but noticeable and I like

[RBW] Car-free week

Well, my 16 year-old new driver/daughter managed to roll into the trailer hitch on a pickup truck in front of her, causing (notwithstanding her 5 MPH speed at the time) several thousand dollars in damage to my car, and requiring a week's worth of repair work. On the phone, the body shop asked

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

I started doing randonneuring a few yew years ago. And had a bike built by John Fitzgerald for that purpose. Low trail, lights and fenders wide tires etc… My current bikes are a 2001 Rivendell custom Long Low, an Atlantis, and a "72 Paramount P13. The low trail geometry is amazing with or without

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

Do you know the axle to crown length for the Atlantis forks? I want to try to get a batch of 50 or so 26er conversions made, but I wasnt sure if those were shorter/longer than the OX1s. I realize that it's probably not a sustainable product, but there seems to be more Atlanti owners who have/wan

[RBW] FS 2 new Surly Rabbit Hole 29" X 50mm black rims

Not quite a Riv item but just in case anybody is looking for these. For sale are 2 new in box Surly Rabbit Hole 29" X 50mm black rims. $125 plus shipping CONUS. I'm open to trades for Easton ARC 40, WTB 40mm or Velocity Dually 40mm. Thanks, Bruce -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam / SimpleOne Sizing?

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 7:43:50 AM UTC-7, S. Greco wrote: > > As a Simpleone owner who has had both a 62 and 60 I will say that you > should seriously consider tire size before picking one if you are between > sizes. > I agree. I have an 88.5 PBH and rode a 60 QB comfortably, but there was

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam / SimpleOne Sizing?

89.5 PBH and I own a 62 cm SimpleOne. I love this bike and the fit is PERFECT for me, but it is still in it's mangled state from a crash last year. One day I hope to either repair or replace it. David On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 10:01:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > I'm on the

Re: [RBW] Any benefits to the longer CS's?

Steve, it's easy to see the added strength needed if you look around at many disk brake frames they frequently have either very substantial rear drop outs or a small tube or loop on the brake side that goes from the chain stay to the seat stay. As for the spelling I try to stay on top of it, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

> > Thanks! I have it adjusted all the way out away from the frame right now > to clear the chain when it's on the inner ring, so I can definitely bring > it back toward the frame. - Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

And make sure you know the weight limit of your rack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

Borrowed a quote from Jim Merz - Just like an arrow, the weight goes up front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr..

[RBW] Re: New Hunq 650b

For reference, here is a 54cm. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:05:15 AM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > Chainstays don't look any longer, which I thought was also c

[RBW] Re: New Hunq 650b

I ordered a 58 Hunq in April after I caught wind of the impending 650b switch... I asked them on the phone and they (iirc it was Mark) said the 58 would stay 700c. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:05:15 AM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > Chainstays don't look any longer, which I thought was al

[RBW] Re: New Hunq 650b

Chainstays don't look any longer, which I thought was also coming on the Hunqs. I hope RBW didn't size me out of the 650B Hunqs because I would prefer that over the 700c version. 53cm is definately too small and the old Hunq had pretty big jumps between sizes. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016

[RBW] New Hunq 650b

Looks like Riv got in at least one 650b Hunqapillar (screen shot from their instagram) Link! -- You received this messa

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Wilbury Mixte

Scott, if Ryan doesn't take the bike I would be interested. I'm in Livonia but out of town till Monday. Howard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

Rather than upsweep, Noodles drop on the outside giving them a very natural position for brake interruptor levers (cross brakes) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

Re: [RBW] FS: Bars, stem adaptor, and saddle

It is. :) Please send money to me via Paypal: sjbrau...@gmail.com I'll send you shipping info when it's available. -Steve On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > I would take that Arione saddle if it's still available > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

While I see lots about low trail bikes with drop bars , I have not heard/seen much about riding on low trail bikes with long sloping top tubes(6+ degrees) and high bars(at least above the saddle height). Basically a much higher center of gravity than a drop bar bike. A recent blug post GP