Re: The Nature of the “Unix Philosophy”

2006-06-07 Thread Keith Thompson
Xah: please consider creating your own newsgroup under alt.*. You can post your long essays there and (if you absolutely insist on doing so) post pointers to them elsewhere. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> San Diego Supercomputer Center

Re: another distutils question

2006-09-29 Thread Keith Perkins
the data file can't be written to (although the script can read it). Do I need to run a post install script, or add something to setup.py file to chown the file or am I doing something wrong? There doesn't seem to be anything on this in the docs. Thanks in advance, Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: another distutils question

2006-09-29 Thread Keith Perkins
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:57:12 -0500, Robert Kern wrote: > Keith Perkins wrote: > >> On a similar note , I have another question about distutils and data files. >> I have a little program that uses a txt file to store data, and it works >> fine running it in it's own

Re: another distutils question

2006-09-30 Thread Keith Perkins
Thanks everyone, for your answers. They've been very helpful. Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Introduction to 3D Graphics Programing

2006-12-27 Thread Keith Keller
uot; is definitely either clueless or trolling). Please don't pay attention to his rants. --keith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Dynamic pull down menus (CGI)

2006-01-24 Thread Keith Burns
VEGETABLE or MEAT) that another pull down menu is filled with appropriate selections (If FRUIT in the first, then APPLES, ORANGES etc... you get the idea)... without resorting to JavaScript? Any references to RTxM are greatly appreciated... Cheers Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Interpreting Unicode scripts

2006-02-05 Thread Keith MacDonald
, Keith MacDonald -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Interpreting Unicode scripts

2006-02-05 Thread Keith MacDonald
That document did help, thanks, although I was initially disconcerted to see that it's written in the future tense. Anyway, it works with Python 2.4. Keith MacDonald "Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > reading PEP

MySQLdb compile error with AMD64

2006-02-28 Thread Keith Burns
Title: MySQLdb compile error with AMD64 >> Can anyone offer any assistance on this one? > >Look here: > >>> gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O2 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall >>> -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -g -fPIC -I/usr/include/mysql >>> -I/usr/include/python2.4 -c _mysql.c -o >>> bui

RE: MySQLdb compile error with AMD64

2006-02-28 Thread Keith Burns
and update with what I changed in the setup.py once I get this working. Thanks for the pointers and getting me on the right track! _ From: Keith Burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:04 PM To: 'python-list@pytho

Re: Language documentation ( was Re: Computing Industry shams)

2005-05-10 Thread Keith Thompson
d. comp.lang.c, where I'm reading this, is for discussion of the C programming language; I see nothing about C. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst> We must

Re: Important Research Project

2007-08-30 Thread Keith Thompson
ething other than C, please find another forum. Massive cross-posts like this are rarely appropriate. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> San Diego Supercomputer Center <*> <http://users.sdsc.edu/~kst> "We must do

Re: structs

2009-02-04 Thread Keith Thompson
"Scott David Daniels" writes: > To avoid using epsilon, do something like: > if 1 + abs(x) != 1: An OK effort, but you're wrong. That's not how to do it at all. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: structs

2009-02-04 Thread Keith Thompson
"Gary Herron" writes: > Python *is* object-oriented I disagree. Care to provide proof of that statement? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

SWIG -- Passing python proxy class instance to python callback

2008-06-06 Thread Keith Sabine
Hi Did you ever find a solution to this? I am having the exact same problem... - Keith I'm trying to pass a proxy class instance (SWIG generated) of CClass, to a python callback function from C++. The proxy class instance of CClass is created from a pointer to the C++ class CClass. Usin

Reading info from an active file

2008-06-11 Thread Keith Nation
. If I open and close the file repeatedly to get refreshed information, I assume it would slow the system down. Any thoughts? Keith Nation -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Reading info from an active file

2008-06-11 Thread Keith Nation
. If I open and close the file repeatedly to get refreshed information, I assume it would slow the system down. Any thoughts? Keith Nation -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Queue/Priority Needed

2008-07-02 Thread Keith Nation
ep(60*delay) x=x+1 print 'Job Complete' What I would like to do is populate the job listings interactively (using input lines) and be able to change priority on uncompleted jobs still in the queue, and add jobs to the queue. I appreciate any help you folks can offer. Keith Nation -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python / WxPython error message

2008-07-06 Thread Keith Bailey
e DLL msvcp71.dll in the system32 folder but that made no difference. Please help if you can. Thanks Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Allow tab completion when inputing filepath?

2008-07-09 Thread Keith Hughitt
g the user to enter a file/directory location. Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Allow tab completion when inputing filepath?

2008-07-09 Thread Keith Hughitt
On Jul 9, 10:18 am, Tim Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith Hughitt wrote: > > I've been looking around on the web for a way to do this, but so far > > have not come across anything for this particular application. I have > > found some ways to enable ta

Converting from local -> UTC

2008-07-11 Thread Keith Hughitt
UTC offset. I've tried looking through the docs http://python.active-venture.com/lib/datetime-datetime.html), but have not had any luck. Does anyone have any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Converting from local -> UTC

2008-07-14 Thread Keith Hughitt
On Jul 12, 12:52 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:42:37 -0300, Keith Hughitt   > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�: > > > I am having a little trouble figuring out how to convert a python > > datetime to UTC. I ha

Angle brackets in command-line arguments?

2008-07-16 Thread Keith Hughitt
ython manual or Python in a Nut-shell though. Anyone know? Thanks, Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Angle brackets in command-line arguments?

2008-07-16 Thread Keith Hughitt
On Jul 16, 11:16 am, Gary Herron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keith Hughitt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I am using someone else's script which expects input in the form of: > > >      ./script.py arg2 > > > I was wondering if the angle-brackets here hav

Re: Converting from local -> UTC

2008-07-16 Thread Keith Hughitt
03-10-01 00:00:00+00:00." Unfortunately, MySQL does not recognize the offset. I know you said you don't use MySQL, but how would you do something execute a similar query on the database you normally interface with? Thanks, Keith On Jul 15, 12:04 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PR

Simple Gui

2008-08-01 Thread Keith Nation
ts" of the program already working, but would really like a gui to do those things which will make it even better. Any help is greatly appreciated. Keith N -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Corrupted images after attempting to store PNG images as BLOBs in MySQL?

2008-08-13 Thread Keith Hughitt
h seems to further suggest the idea that the data is being corrupted somewhere along the way. To store the image I'm using: blob = open(img, 'rb').read() sql = "INSERT INTO table VALUES('%s')" % (MySQLdb.escape_string(blob)) Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Corrupted images after attempting to store PNG images as BLOBs in MySQL?

2008-08-13 Thread Keith Hughitt
nd up switching back though for efficiency. For now though I think I will try mediumblob to at least see if I can fix the problem as things are. Thanks and take care! Keith On Aug 13, 10:46 am, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: > > Silently truncating or otherw

Re: Recursive function won't compile

2008-04-02 Thread Keith Thompson
and C - who are we to judge the semantics of that > chimera? What do you mean? Aren't these: #include perfectly valid comments in Python? Followups redirected. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nokia "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this." -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister" -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

automatic from module import * expansion

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Jackson
, since they might want the wildcard import for something special, but it would still be *much* nicer then expanding the imports out by hand. Apologies ahead of time if I've missed something obvious. I did spend some quality time with google, and couldn't find anything. cheers, --keit

Re: symbolic links, aliases, cls clear

2006-03-29 Thread Keith Thompson
f you're on a Unix-like system. Or there might be some Python library with a clear-screen function. Are you sure you want to clear the screen? If I run your program and it clears my screen for me, it could be erasing significant information. If you want complete control over the screen, you

Re: symbolic links, aliases, cls clear

2006-04-12 Thread Keith Thompson
nk it's been at least a decade since I've used a terminal or emulator that's not VT100-compatible (i.e., accepts ANSI control sequences). Of course, I'll run into one the day after I start writing code that depends on that assumption. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith)

Re: Implementation suggestions for creating a Hierarchical circuit database

2009-12-10 Thread Keith Thompson
ct followups, since that affects only followups to *this* article, but please consider trimming the newsgroups line.) -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks...@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst> Nokia "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."

a list/re problem

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Keith
: n = [] for x in keys: m = r.match(x) if m: n.append(m.group(1)) It is more efficient, but much uglier. Does anyone have a better solution? Thank, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: a list/re problem

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > From: Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> > Subject: Re: a list/re problem > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:24 PM > Ed Keith wrote: > > > I have a problem and I am tryin

Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
I am having a problem when substituting a raw string. When I do the following: re.sub('abc', r'a\nb\nc', '123abcdefg') I get """ 123a b cdefg """ what I want is r'123a\nb\ncdefg' How do I get what I want? T

Re: Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > From: Gabriel Genellina > Subject: Re: Raw string substitution problem > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 9:35 AM > En Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:09:32 -0300, > Ed Keith > escribió: > > &

Re: Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
n strange! I think I'll stick with: >>> m = re.match('^(.*)abc(.*)$', '123abcdefg') >>> print m.group(1) + r'a\nb\n.c\a' + m.group(2) 123a\nb\n.c\adefg It's much less likely to fry the poor maintenance programmer's mind. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-30 Thread Ed Keith
eyond the "10-minute introduction" stage. You need to be clear about what you mean by "clean". Is Python scoping "clean"? I suspect lots of people would argue either side. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Inserting Unicode text with MySQLdb in Python 2.4-2.5?

2009-11-18 Thread Keith Hughitt
ted to Python/MySQLdb and not MySQL itself, I manually inserted the text and it worked just fine. Furthermore, when working in a Python console, both print "Å" and print u"\u212B" display the correct output. Any ideas? The versions of the MySQLdb adapter tested were 1.2.1 (Python 2.4), and 1.2.2-10 (Python 2.5). Thanks! Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Inserting Unicode text with MySQLdb in Python 2.4-2.5?

2009-11-20 Thread Keith Hughitt
''') # Test 1 print "Just printing: %s" % 'Ångström' # Test 2 cursor.execute("SELECT name FROM unicode_test.test;") print "From database: %s" % cursor.fetchone()[0].decode('utf-8') # Test 3 (Manual) print 'To verify manually: mysql -u %s -p -e "SELECT name FROM unicode_test.test"' % admin if __name__ == '__main__': sys.exit(main()) = End Example Any suggestions? Thanks! Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Inserting Unicode text with MySQLdb in Python 2.4-2.5?

2009-11-24 Thread Keith Hughitt
inting: %s" % 'Ångström' # Test 2 cursor.execute("SELECT name FROM unicode_test.test;") print "From database: %s" % cursor.fetchone()[0] # Test 3 (Manual) print 'To verify manually: mysql -u %s -p -e "SELECT name FROM unicode_test.test

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
meter set to a constant 2 you use: f 2 this give you a function which take only one parameter. Using parenthesis make currying more complicated, so most functional languages do not use them. It did take me a LONG time to get used to this, but it is only syntax, I do not let syntax bother me. Semantics on the other hand, are a big deal. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > From: Steven D'Aprano > Subject: Re: Python and Ruby > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:36 PM > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:28:41 -0800, > Ed Keith wrote: > > > In most functional la

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
e > will sometimes > need to know the time. Whether they are "pure functions" > (functions in > the mathematical sense) or impure, they're still functions > in some sense. > How do you deal with such impure functions? > > > You pass it a monad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(functional_programming)). -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Writing an assembler in Python

2010-02-22 Thread Ed Keith
ython.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Not a bad idea, has anyone tried this for x86 machine code? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Ed Keith
d me to. ETX and EOT were well established, why no use one of them? I'd love to know what they were thinking. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 3/3/10, David Robinow wrote: > From: David Robinow > Subject: Re: Docstrings considered too complicated > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2:54 PM > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Ed > Keith > wrote: > > --- On Wed, 3/3/

Modifying an existing excel spreadsheet

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Keith
py it to a new spreadsheet and write the new spreadsheet, but I can't seem to copy the images, and it looks like copying the formatting is going to be difficult. Can anyone give me any tips or advice? Thanks in advance,    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com

More Help with python .find fucntion

2011-01-07 Thread Keith Anthony
My previous question asked how to read a file into a strcuture a line at a time. Figured it out. Now I'm trying to use .find to separate out the PDF objects. (See code) PROBLEM/QUESTION: My call to lines[i].find does NOT find all instances of endobj. Any help available? Any insights? #!/usr/b

Re: More Help with python .find fucntion

2011-01-08 Thread Keith Anthony
THanks ... I am new to Python ... Comparing the result of find with -1 fixes the bug ... some of the endobj start in the firt position ... You're right about the lines ending in \n by accident, EXCEPT in PDF files items are separated by obj <<\n and endobj\n --

Please post Chuck Missler Bible audio/video

2011-02-16 Thread Keith Anthony
Anything from Chuck Missler . I've lost my collection. Thanks. -- - --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v4.0 Final Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet --- - -- - -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Recommend Commercial graphing library

2010-04-06 Thread Ed Keith
on.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >From The Matplotlib documentation: "Matplotlib only uses BSD compatible code, >and its license is based on the PSF license." BSD and PSF both allow commercial use. There is no "copyleft" restriction. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Merge two directories together

2010-04-16 Thread Keith Hughitt
Suppose you have two file-trees with common sub-directories but different files that you want to merge together, e.g. /test/ /test/a/ /test/a/file1 /test2/ /test2/a/ /test2/a/file2 You can easily merge the directories in Linux using the "cp" command: cp -r test/* test2/ While Python provides s

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
> > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Just thought I'd add my $0.02 here. I wrote AsciiLitProg (http://asciilitprog.berlios.de/) in Python. It is a literate programming tool. It generates code from a document. It can generate code in any language t

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > From: Stefan Behnel > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:40 AM > Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 14:15: > > I wrote AsciiLitProg (http://asciilitprog.berlios.de/) in Python.

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wrote: > From: alex23 > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:06 AM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > For more information on Literate Programming in > general see the following links. >

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, James Mills wrote: > From: James Mills > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: "python list" > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:35 AM > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Ed > Keith > wrote: > > To deal with indentation I had to > >

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Andre Engels wrote: > From: Andre Engels > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: "James Mills" > Cc: "python list" > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:00 AM > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM, James > Mills > > wrote: > &g

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > From: Stefan Behnel > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:33 AM > Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 15:19: > > --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > >> Ed Keith, 04.05

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: > From: Stefan Behnel > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:52 AM > Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 17:43: > > The PITA is having to keep track of the indentation of > each embedd

Re: Sharing a program I wrote

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
tt > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > It depends on exactly what you want to do. I'd suggest you look at the following sites: http://developer.berlios.de/ http://codepad.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://ideone.com/ One of them might be what your looking for. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-05 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wrote: > From: alex23 > Subject: Re: Teaching Programming > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:47 PM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > Knuth wanted the generated source to be unreadable, so > people would not be tempted

Re: Picking a license (an atempt to give real advice)

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
se it, but others might, and you may get paid for your work. The bottom line is: if you want the largest possible user base, go with a less restrictive license; If you hope to profit financially from your work, use the GPL. Just my $0.02, I hope it is helpful.    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yaho

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
LGPL code. So I do not waist my time learning to use libraries covered by restrictive licenses. So if you want me to even consider using your library do not use GPL, or LGPL. I favor the Boost license in this case. I hope this is useful. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-12 Thread Ed Keith
resort of those who have run out of good arguments. The more you engage in it the weaker you make your position. This thread is generating more heat than light, and probably should be dropped. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/m

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 8:38 AM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > If, on the other hand you are r

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
y? I vote for C, but would like to hear any arguments for another position. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 5/12/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 11:48 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > ... but to claim that putting

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
com>, > Patrick > Maupin wrote: > > > On May 12, 10:48 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro > > > wrote: > > > >> In message , > Ed > >> Keith wrote: > >> > >> > ... but to claim that putting more > restrictions on someone give them

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
gt; prohibitied > open source derivatives. If I use MIT licensed code, I can give someone else access to the program with out binding them to the legal restrictions of the GPL. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
ALWAYS give my client my source code. But I do not want to bind them to the requirements of the GPL, I want them to be free do do what they want with the program, so I never incorporate any GPLed code in my projects. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:06 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > Assertion I: > >    If per

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:07 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Patrick Maupin wrote: > From: Patrick Maupin > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:45 PM > On May 13, 10:06 pm, Lawrence > D'Oliveiro central.gen.new_zealand> wrote: > > I

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
. Any MIT licensed code that I may have used is still in the common. My using it did not reomove it from the common. Has the fact that Python has been used for many commercial/propitiatory projects reduced your ability to make use of it? If so how? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
if you let someone else have a copy of you work you are putting them in a position where that can easily/inadvertently violate the law. I do not want to put clients in legal jeopardy, so I do not use GPL, or LGPLed code. I do not claim that using the GLP is immoral, nor deny others right to use

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
of Boost I would not have had this problem? I use the Boost Libraries (http://www.boost.org/) in most of my code. Do you believe they are likely to disappear because they are not covered by the GPL? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
PL today, I can change my mind and release the same code under the Boost license tomorrow. But if I release it with the Boost license, while technically I can release it with the GPL tomorrow, in practice everyone will use the previously released Boost licensed version. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
by the GPL are a strict subset of the right granted by the Boost license. So your argument does not work. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
e license. When I deliver my code to the client they are always free to do whatever they want with it. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
disk. And if he give his friend the binary disk, but not the source disk (which is of no value to him or his friend), then he is in violation of the law, and he cannot even understand why. The GPL is fine when all parties concern understand what source code is and what to do with it. But when

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
a GPLed version of Python, I think the license is permissive enough to allow that. If you did, do you think more people would use the GPLed version? Personally, I would use the version with the more permissive license, unless the GPLed version offered a significant advantage of some kind. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 9:58 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > Yes, under the GPL every one has

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 10:07 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > That is one good reason for choo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Paul Boddie wrote: > From: Paul Boddie > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 8:12 PM > On 14 Mai, 21:18, Ed Keith > wrote: > > > > The GPL is fine when all parties concern understand >

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > From: Steven D'Aprano > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 10:59 PM > On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:39:05 -0700, > Ed Keith wrote: > > > Yes, under the GPL every

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > From: Steven D'Aprano > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 7:41 PM > On Thu, 13 May 2010 06:24:04 -0700, > Ed Keith wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 5/13

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Robert Kern wrote: > From: Robert Kern > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:10 PM > On 2010-05-14 21:37 , Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:42:31 -0700, Ed Keith wrote

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:06 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
—Andy Rooney, _Boston | > _o__)              >                 >                 >   Globe_ 1982-05-30 | > Ben Finney > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Why don't your own customers under cut you? If you sell someone GPLed software they have t

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Duncan Booth wrote: > From: Duncan Booth > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 8:52 AM > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > I can not imagine anyone being stupid enough to pay me > for rights

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:09 PM > In message , > Ed Keith > wrote: > > > But if my client give someone

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Robert Kern wrote: > From: Robert Kern > Subject: Re: Picking a license > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:03 PM > On 2010-05-16 09:25 , Ed Keith > wrote: > > > > --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveir

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
>     } > > > > /> > /> > > > > > -- > Cheers > Anton > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > But that is in a fixed size field, can you make the height change based on the height of the browser window, and still keep it centered? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
Nice! I've been looking for that trick for some time. Thank you, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Mon, 6/14/10, AD. wrote: > From: AD. > Subject: Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal > To: python-list@python.org > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 8:

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
; -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > I agree you should learn a DIFFERENT programming language. Perl, Python, & Ruby are all quite similar. If you want to expand your horizons, learn one of the following: Forth -lots of fun. Assembler - give you a m

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
       Dennis Lee > Bieber         AF6VN >         wlfr...@ix.netcom.com  >   HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Try J. It does not require a special keyboard. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

2010-07-06 Thread Ed Keith
I downloaded the ISO, but it seems to be just a bit too big to fit on a CD! This seems odd to me, has anyone else had this problem? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 7/6/10, sturlamolden wrote: > From: sturlamolden > Subject: Download Microso

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