how to create installable cds from iso files

hi , I am new to this , I have downloaded the 3 iso files from the below site ftp://kickstart.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/iso/i386/    the files are psyche-i386-disc1.iso psyche-i386-disc2.iso psyche-i386-disc3.iso   can anyone tell me how to create installtion discs out of these

RE: Digital camera question

> -Original Message- > From: Wolfgang Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thu, March 20, 2003 2:09 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Digital camera question > > > That's really strange. The Canon Powershot S45 only hit the market in > November last year. (I thought it was o

Re: Restricting SSH users on Server?

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:54, Justin Zygmont wrote: > On 20 Mar 2003, Piero Calucci wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 02:51, Dan G wrote: > > > How can I restrict which users have SSH access to a server? I did not > > > see any settings in sshd_config. Does this have to be done with Pam? If > > >

Re: how to create installable cds from iso files

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, valeed wrote: > hi , > I am new to this , I have downloaded the 3 iso files from the below site > ftp://kickstart.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/iso/i386/ > > the files are > psyche-i386-disc1.iso > psyche-i386-disc2.iso > psyche-i386-disc3.iso > > can anyone tel

Re: how to create installable cds from iso files

Around about 20/03/2003 09:21, Michael Kuss typed ... please guide me to install red hat linux 8on my system & help me explore the world of Linux nothing easier than that: cdrecord -v psyche-i386-disc1.iso same for the other two. ... 'cept he doesn't yet /have/ Linux, and hence has no cdrecord ye

Re: how to create installable cds from iso files

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 10:21, Michael Kuss wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, valeed wrote: > > Os : Ms Win XP installed > cdrecord -v psyche-i386-disc1.iso I believe the "Os:" line above means there is no previous linux installed, so probably no cdrecord. Anyway, any decent mastering program for windo

Re: Problems with VMWare

> I am not quiet sure is this VMWare or Red Hat related question, but I > have to ask :) > Anyway I am running VMWare 3.2 on Red Hat 8, patched with patch from > theirs site so it will run properly on RH8. On /dev/hda1 on FAT32 > partition i have Win 2k server installed. I cannot run this > ins

Re: Upgrading KDE and Gnome

Thanks! I'll get those rpms and give it a try on my test box... - Original Message - From: "Michael Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading KDE and Gnome > I just installed KDE3.1. It worked alright... but don't

RH8 on Athlon XP

Hi linux gurus, just to check something out because I heard the words: "kernel for AMD". I'm going to install RH8 on an Athlon XP 2400+. Do I need something like a kernel for AMD? Personally I don't think so since Intel and AMD have the same instruction set. Am I wrong somewhere? Gilbert

Re: mail client text based

nops... mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... pine works with smtp but not pop3 (it works with imap) ... i found a solution to do mutt works with smtp (masqmail) ... but i'm trying setup it ! all this for check my yahoo mail in text mode ... Joe Klemmer wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 12:51, Sergio

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

Have you done a make modules and also a make modules_install ? If not it doesn't surprise me the least. If you do this and it makes the dependencies properly (you will know if you see the module under the /lib/modules/[kernel-version] directory structure), it should work. Regards, GM Jesse Keat

Re: mail client text based

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:53:13AM -0300, Sergio Durand wrote: > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... All you need is some smtp capable application (postfix, sendmail, etc) installed. AFAIK, they do not need to run in daemon mode, just command mode while mail is being sent. -- Hal Burgiss

RE: RH8 on Athlon XP

No, when you install RH 8.0 it will install the athlon kernel automatically. So you will not have to do a thing. Wolf -Original Message- From: Galea Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2003 2:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RH8 on Athlon XP Hi linux gurus,

Re: mail client text based

There's always fetchmail... On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 07:53, Sergio Durand wrote: > nops... > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... > pine works with smtp but not pop3 (it works with imap) ... > i found a solution to do mutt works with smtp (masqmail) ... but i'm > trying setup it ! > all this for ch

Re: Problems with VMWare

I am teaching Linux 8 currently and my students have had a lot of problems with the 3.2 version for linux. On the exact same hardware it installs fine on one box and not on another. 3.2 for windows seems to be stable. Personally I would run 3.1 on Linux until the 3.2 release is more stable. To b

Re: mail client text based

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:53:13AM -0300, Sergio Durand wrote: > nops... > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... I am clueless what is meant by mutt not working with smtp. What is that supposed to mean? -- --- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity Universit

Re: mail client text based

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 14:48, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:53:13AM -0300, Sergio Durand wrote: > > nops... > > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... > I am clueless what is meant by mutt not working with smtp. What is > that supposed to mean? mutt relies on local 'sendmail' not

ptrace/kernel

I'm guessing everyone knows about the ptrace vulnerability. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t278-s2132228,00.html I haven't the slightest idea what to do with this. I went to the RH page and there are numerous patches and things available for download but no instructions for their implementation

Small problem trying to update glibc (lib dependency problem)

I am trying to update to the glibc errata that was just released but I'm having a small dependency deadlock. The problem seems to be a lib that is in glibc-2.2.93 named libNoVersion.so.1, which is needed by Applix Anywhere 2.2. glibc-2.3.2 wants to remove this lib (or at least it doesn't

Re: ptrace/kernel

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 10:04, anthony baldwin wrote: > I'm guessing everyone knows about the ptrace vulnerability. > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t278-s2132228,00.html > I haven't the slightest idea what to do with this. up2date will take care of this nicely. -- Farewell neighbor. T

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

On Thursday 20 March 2003 04:53, George Magklaras uttered: > Have you done a make modules and also a make modules_install ? > If not it doesn't surprise me the least. > > If you do this and it makes the dependencies properly (you will know > if you see the module under the /lib/modules/[kernel-ver

Re: mail client text based

Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:53:13AM -0300, Sergio Durand wrote: nops... mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... I am clueless what is meant by mutt not working with smtp. What is that supposed to mean? My guess is that he means mutt doesn't use SMTP (AFAIK) to send mail to a rem

RE: Vsftpd.ftpusers user restriction does not work?

userlist_deny is not for vsftpd.ftpusers. What I am looking for is a simple user entry in vsftpd.ftpusers to deny access like ftpaccess does for wu-ftpd. The man page for vsftpd says vsftpd.ftpusers should do this, but it does not. Anyone have any ideas what else is missing?

Re: how to create installable cds from iso files

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:21:52 +0100 (CET), Michael Kuss wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, valeed wrote: > > > hi , > > I am new to this , I have downloaded the 3 iso files from the below site > > ftp://kickstart.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/redhat/linux/8.0/en/is

Re: Small problem trying to update glibc (lib dependency problem)

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 10:15:01AM -0500, Joe Klemmer wrote: > I am trying to update to the glibc errata that was just released but > I'm having a small dependency deadlock. The problem seems to be a lib > that is in glibc-2.2.93 named libNoVersion.so.1, which is needed by > Applix Anywhere

RE: RH8 on Athlon XP

Thanks for the info Wolfgang Best regards, Gilbert -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: RH8 on Athlon XP No, when you install RH 8.0 it will install the athlon kernel automatically.

RE: ssh quit working

Title: RE: ssh quit working Thanks for the reply. I have removed ipchains from the server. When I do a "lsmod" I see, among other entries, iptable_filter and iptables.  Ipchains is not there. When I do a "dig", it errors-out with nothing to find.  I'm able to ping both of my dns machines tho

info abt DVD players needed

Hi all, Any tips abt how to play DVD's in Psyche..I Have a MATSHITA DVD drive Thanks in advance, Riks Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com -- Psyche-lis

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 16:29, Jesse Keating wrote: > I can build the module and load it into a running system w/out > trouble. It's the boot kernel that is giving me trouble, and I'm thinking > that it's because the -i386-BOOT config that came w/ the kernel differs from > the actual kernel use

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

On Thursday 20 March 2003 08:03, Arjan van de Ven uttered: > that is not correct. Ok, so if thats not correct, could you help me in any way as to figure out why the method I use works for an installed kernel, but not the boot kernel? I'm all ears. (; -- Jesse Keating RHCE MCSE http://geek.j2

Re: Problem with installing RH 6.2 on a new Dell PCe

> Freddy Jensen writes > > The machine is for production building of software which > > needs to run on "Redhat 6.2 and later". It's a marketing > > decision. Excerpt of message (sent 19 March 2003) by Jay Crews: > So, RH8.0 would fit the "and later" requirement, right? Yes, but that's not en

Install of 8.0 in freezing at different points

I have the 3 CD image install disk for Redhat 8.0. I believe called ISO. All three check out on the test before install. I am installing on a 3.2gb drive that is formatted FAT32. The install process seems to be going flawlessly but for some reason the install stops and I have to turn the machine

Re: info abt DVD players needed

Google for Xine. On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 07:02, riks DC wrote: > Hi all, > > Any tips abt how to play DVD's in Psyche..I Have a > MATSHITA DVD drive > > Thanks in advance, > Riks > > > Missed your favourite TV serial last ni

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 17:15, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thursday 20 March 2003 08:03, Arjan van de Ven uttered: > > that is not correct. > > Ok, so if thats not correct, could you help me in any way as to figure out why > the method I use works for an installed kernel, but not the boot kernel? I'

RE: Install of 8.0 in freezing at different points

I had similar problem with one of my machines and it was caused by the dma enabled dy default for the harddisk. Try 'ide=nodma' as kernel command line. If by chance your problem has the same cause, this will fix it. Pavel. > -Original Message- > From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: mail client text based

Chris Kloiber writes > > There's always fetchmail... > > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 07:53, Sergio Durand wrote: > > nops... > > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... > > pine works with smtp but not pop3 (it works with imap) ... > > i found a solution to do mutt works with smtp (masqmail) ... but

Re: Problem making install time driver disk

On Thursday 20 March 2003 08:59, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > easiest is to use the device driverdisk kit Doug has: > http://people.redhat.com/dledford/ Been there tried that. Module doesn't get compiled w/ modversion.h for some reason. Of corse, i've emailed dledford about it, have yet to get a

Re: Quota problems with Redhat 8?

have you use quotaon /dev/hdaafter restarting the server (or remounting the filesystems??? ) RP - Raúl D. Pittí P. Tecnología de Información. [EMAIL PROTECTED] S.A. Plaza Credicorp Bank Calle 50, Oficina 703 tel. (507)-210-1518 fax. (507)-210-1506 [Hora Local: GMT-5]

RE: Quota problems with Redhat 8?

Paul there is no point in turning quotas on if no aquota.* files are being created on the FS after running quotacheck -avug . I cannot even get to that stage. I think the problem is quotas and ext3 don't work very well currently. I checked on Google and many people are having the same problems.

Re: mail client text based

hi jay ... for your suprise, yahoo works with pop3 and smtp ... for free... i've configured my X-emailclient with pop.mail.yahoo.com.br (yahoo brazil) and smtp.mail.yahoo.com.br ... for enable this service you subscribe in ad's mails ... [ and after, filter this mails to trash =))) ] by now, i u

Re: Restricting SSH users on Server?

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 15:54, Justin Zygmont wrote: > On 20 Mar 2003, Piero Calucci wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 02:51, Dan G wrote: > > > How can I restrict which users have SSH access to a server? I did not > > > see any settings in sshd_config. Does this have to be done with Pam? If > > >

RE: Install of 8.0 in freezing at different points

I had this problem once--ended up being in the BIOS of the machine--you have to set the BIOS to read the disk as OTHER (or some other OS other than DOS) then things should work fine. If you still get the freezing--check the RedHat hardware compatibility list. I had similar problems getting it to

Re: ptrace/kernel

just go to a mirror site and download the new ernel package, then type rpm -Uvh packagename and reboot. This vulnerability sounds like it would be hard to exploit. On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, anthony baldwin wrote: > I'm guessing everyone knows about the ptrace vulnerability. > http://news.zdnet.co.

Re: anyone using syslog-ng?

Matthew Melvin wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 at 11:38am (-0800), Randall J. Parr wrote: I have been trying to find some means to redirect the iptables log messages to a file other than /var/log/messages. One option recommended is using syslog-ng which allows redirection based on regular expres

Re: ptrace/kernel

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:53:16 -0500 (EST), Justin Zygmont wrote: > just go to a mirror site and download the new ernel package, then type rpm > -Uvh packagename and reboot. This vulnerability sounds like it would be > hard to exploit. Don't! That

dhcp-release

Hi, does anyone know how to force a dhcp-release in redhat 8.0? -- Torgny -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Small problem trying to update glibc (lib dependency problem)

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 10:40, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Short term solution could be to: > cp -a /lib/libNoVersion* /tmp/ > rpm -Fvh --nodeps glibc*2.3.2* > (this one after verifying libNoVersion.so is really the only failed > dependency) > mv /tmp/libNoVersion* /lib/ This is basically what I

Re: mail client text based

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 12:04, Jay Crews wrote: > The question is, does yahoo run a pop or imap server? They do. You just have to pay for it. -- Farewell neighbor. Thank you for giving us a safe place for so many years. Fred Rodgers - 1928-2003 -- Psyche-list mailing

Re: OT Netscape - incredibly stupid or dumb operator

Joe Klemmer wrote: On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 12:02, Harry Putnam wrote: Netscape 7.01 I wondered if I'm just really lame here, but I've noticed the few times I've used the bookmark search tool under `Manage bookmarks' that it finds bookmarks alright but allows now way to tell where that bookmark i

RE: Install of 8.0 in freezing at different points

I had a similar problem just about 1 week ago.as I posted here, I was getting freeze-ups during install and after about the 6th install attempt, I got a RH message indicating some type of problem. After burning new ISO's from CD and passing the disk integrity check, it started looking more lik

Re: dhcp-release

ifconfig eth0 down = release dhcp -n eth0 = renew Will Mendez T[2] Mmmm...XSI www.xsibase.com www.xsimontreal.com - Original Message - From: "Naga Toro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: dhcp-release > Hi, > >

Re: No chance for 'dvd'

Tony Nugent wrote: On Thu Mar 20 2003 at 01:19, Thomas Rump wrote: If you can't get the dma=1 switch to work at bootup, then you could resort to doing this in /etc/rc.d/rc.local... Or use the files in /etc/sysconfig that are designed for this harddisks = defaults for all harddisks. hadrdiskhd?

Re: mail client text based

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20 Mar 2003 14:11:18 -0500, Joe Klemmer wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 12:04, Jay Crews wrote: > > > The question is, does yahoo run a pop or imap server? > > They do. You just have to pay for it. In the United States. In several other co

rpm hangs

trying to run rpm -qa can it be a problem with the rpm database? rpm --rebuilddb seems to hang too -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: SV: Firewall Issue

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:18:24 -0800 (PST), Keith Morse wrote > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > > Viestissä Maanantai 17. Maaliskuuta 2003 23:40, Marie-Thérèse Lorentzen > > kirjoitti: > > > Is there a way or a file in which one can look at to see what the firewall > > > is set actual

Re: rpm hangs

A reboot has fixed my systems when they get into that state. I must say I was nervous that the systems wouldn't reboot, but they did and were fine. On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 03:08 PM, Stephen Mah wrote: trying to run rpm -qa can it be a problem with the rpm database? rpm --rebuilddb seem

Re: dhcp-release

"Will Mendez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > ifconfig eth0 down = release Unfortunately no. This doesn't work nor does "dhclient -r" although it should according to the man page. This last only returns an error about the wrong .pid file. Any other ideas? -- Torgny -- Psyche-list mailing li

Re: rpm hangs

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:36:10 -0500, Margaret_Doll wrote > A reboot has fixed my systems when they get into that state. > I must say I was nervous that the systems wouldn't reboot, but they > did and were fine. On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 03:08 PM, > Stephen Mah wrote: > > > trying to run rp

[Fwd: William W. Austin ]

-- Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Custom87.net --- Begin Message --- On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 07:02, riks DC wrote: > Hi all, > > Any tips abt how to play DVD's in Psyche..I Have a > MATSHITA DVD drive > > Thanks in advance, > Riks Hi I don't play dvd's here at the office; however, at home I

Re: dhcp-release

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 18:20, Will Mendez wrote: > ifconfig eth0 down = release > dhcp -n eth0 = renew No :-( ifconfig eth0 down does not send a dhcp-release. dhclient -r should do it but it only returns this... cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory

Re: dhcp-release

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 19:13, Pete Peterson wrote: > > The dhclient man page seems to imply that "dhclient -r" will do that. I whish it was that easy. That only returns: -- # dhclient -r eth0 cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sig

Re: Firewall Issue

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:27:47 -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:18:24 -0800 (PST), Keith Morse wrote > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > > > > Viestissä Maanantai 17. Maaliskuuta 2003 23:40, Marie-Thérèse Lorentzen > >

redhat-config-packages

Is there a way to configure the Package Management utility to point to an NFS server with the redhat tree? instead of putting in the CD everytime you want to add/remove a group of packages. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Firewall Issue

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:24:04 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:27:47 -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:18:24 -0800 (PST), Keith Morse wrote > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > > > > > >

RE: info abt DVD players needed

You can go to the following link and download Xine (Which I use and it plays DVD's very well, complete with menu's etc) http://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=107 Wolf -Original Message- From: riks DC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2003 6:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: anyone using syslog-ng?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 at 10:57am (-0800), Randall J. Parr wrote: > Matthew Melvin wrote: > > >On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 at 11:38am (-0800), Randall J. Parr wrote: > > > >... it can be used a full replacement for sysklogd but i don't know how > >'drop in' the available RPM's are. It's prolly worth chec

Re: Firewall Issue

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Mike Vanecek wrote: > Sorry, do not mean to be thick, but the man iptables says, > >-L, --list > List all rules in the selected chain. If no chain is selected, > all chains are listed. It is legal to specify the -Z (zero) >

Screen goes blank?

RH 8.0 w/all updates. I have had 2 or 3 instances here lately (do not remember when it first happened) in which the screen went black with a single green line on the left side of the screen. They happen while I have left the session and monitor running running for a while with no activity. I would

Re: dhcp-release

On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 14:38, Naga Toro wrote: > "Will Mendez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > ifconfig eth0 down = release > > Unfortunately no. This doesn't work nor does "dhclient -r" although it > should according to the man page. > This last only returns an error about the wrong .pid file. >

SRC rpms

Does anyone know the command to rebuild an SRC rpm with a new configure option? -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

RE: SRC rpms

You can use the rpmbuild --rebuild filetorebuild. Wolf -Original Message- From: Justin Zygmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2003 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SRC rpms Does anyone know the command to rebuild an SRC rpm with a new configure option?

Re: Vsftpd.ftpusers user restriction does not work?

--- Dan G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi people. I have added a local user say spammy into > /etc/vsftpd.ftpusers plaintext with no other > characters. When I ftp into > the server with this user account it allows the > login which it should > not. Is there a specific syntax I am missing here? >

Re: Quota problems with Redhat 8?

Im running disk quota on my system, but its only on /home partition. Im not sure you can enable quota on / --sanjeewa --- Dan G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know how to get around the quota probs > with Redhat 8. I am > using the latest Redhat kernel unmodified. I have > set usrquota

Re: mail client text based

On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Sergio Durand wrote: > nops... > mutt works with pop3 but not smtp ... > pine works with smtp but not pop3 (it works with imap) ... Actually, pine works quite nicely with the dreaded pop3. inbox-path={name_of_mailserver/pop3}inbox HTH. -- Bill in Denver -- Ps

Re: Onboard sound problems with Asus A7V333-X mobo

Cliff Sarginson wrote: Hello, I have installed Psyche on a system with an ASUS A7V333-X mobo with onboard sound. The sound hardware is: VIA Technologies VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller This is recognised and an attempt made to load the driver via82cxxx-audio. However it fails: Cliff, if you're sti

Editor Documentation

Can anyone tell me or point me in the right direction as to where to get hold of some editor documentation. Either in HTML or PDF format. What I basically would like to do, is to write some *.sh scripts. And use the editor commands to edit some text files (Command line based). I want to be able to