Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-25 Thread Ben Pfaff
I like to think that the PSPP manual documentation for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes many examples. If there's anything missing from it, let me know. On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 3:27 PM ft gmail wrote: > > > Le 23/10/2024 à 17:24, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM ft gmail

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-25 Thread Frans Houweling
CTABLES is well-documented indeed! For exercises you might want to have a look at some blog posts here: https://www.morewithdata.net/blog/index-3.html frans On 10/24/24 22:51, Ben Pfaff wrote: I like to think that the PSPP manual documentation for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes many exa

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread ft gmail
Le 23/10/2024 à 17:24, Ben Pfaff a écrit : On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM ft gmail wrote: Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? My goal is always to implement features from the latest SPSS (but some are currently missing). The best I found was a SPSS TABLES 11.5

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM ft gmail wrote: > Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? My goal is always to implement features from the latest SPSS (but some are currently missing). > The best I found was a SPSS TABLES 11.5 manual. Is there anything better ? You shou

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread ft gmail
Thank you very much, Ben. Your solution looks far better. Though I worked with CTABLES years ago, a steep re-learning curve rests. Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? Unfortunately , I did not find a good website (or book) for self-learning CTABLES with syntax, not

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
CTABLES should work with TEMPORARY. I'm surprised that it doesn't. It works for me with your data. Here is how to get the totals column. There might be a way to get a % Total row too; I didn't have time to figure it out. set /tnumbers labels. temp. recode d60 (7=3)./* missing =7 recoded into alm

Re: CTABLES GUI

2024-02-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Hmm, it doesn't work for me at first try either. John, I would guess that you wrote the CTABLES GUI. Does it work OK for you? I'm not having any luck. On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 4:24 AM ft gmail wrote: > > Hi, > > Did anyone work with the CTABLES GUI ? > > I can drag and drop an ordinal variable i

Re: CTABLES

2024-02-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
I like to think that the PSPP manual for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes lots of examples. You might find one of the examples here is what you're looking for: https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/manual/html_node/CTABLES-Scalar-Variable-Basics.html On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 3:24 AM ft gmail wrote:

Re: CTABLES

2024-02-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
Why not use Frans very good examples and blog to get fluent in Ctables again? https://www.morewithdata.net/blog/20221030-ctables-exercises-part-i.html Matthias Am Fr., 9. Feb. 2024 um 12:25 Uhr schrieb ft gmail : > Hi, > > I am really glad the PSPP crew published the CTABLES procedure. Thank

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Matthias Faeth
Well, I do not have any idea about feeds either However, typing https://www.morewithdata.net/feed/ into my browser (firefox, chromium, chrome) leads me directly to a xlm page without style information. Whereas e.g. typing https://correctiv.org/feed/ lets me download a small file that I can open i

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread ft gmail
Hi Frans, I shall follow your info. Thanks ! Have a good Christmas, ftr Le 22/12/2023 à 16:18, Frans Houweling a écrit : Hi ft,   have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. Manual: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and-Subtota

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Frans Houweling
Hi Matthias,   thanks for your kind comment. My browser (Vivaldi) does show https://www.morewithdata.net/feed/ . I am not a Wordpress expert (understatement). If there is some setting you want me to change please give advice. Anyway, I don't expect to be posting frequently. frans On 12/23

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Matthias Faeth
Hi Frans, just with this I discovered your blog: morewithdata.net looks really great and will give me months of reading time, great work! 😁 Do you provide RSS Feed so that I do not miss out on the news? https://www.morewithdata.net/feed/ does not do the trick in my feedreader (Feedbro add on for

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-22 Thread Frans Houweling
Hi ft,   have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. Manual: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and-Subtotals . Also this post might help: https://www.morewithdata.net/ctables-exercises-part-i/ Good luck! frans On 12/22/23 12:3

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-14 Thread Matthias Faeth via PSPP user discussion
Thanks for the tip! Matthias Am Mi., 13. Dez. 2023 um 23:00 Uhr schrieb Ben Pfaff : > By the way, it used to make sense to use narrow formats back when SPSS or > PSPP showed output with fixed-width columns, where using a narrower format > allowed more data to display horizontally. But these days

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
By the way, it used to make sense to use narrow formats back when SPSS or PSPP showed output with fixed-width columns, where using a narrower format allowed more data to display horizontally. But these days, with the output engines that SPSS and PSPP have, usually there isn't a benefit to a narrow

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Matthias Faeth via PSPP user discussion
My bad, thanks anyway Matthias Am Mi., 13. Dez. 2023 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Ben Pfaff : > Thanks for the report. > > A width of 3 is enough to show one integer digit, a decimal point, and one > fractional digit, but not enough for two integer digits, a decimal point, > and one fractional digit. Us

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Thanks for the report. A width of 3 is enough to show one integer digit, a decimal point, and one fractional digit, but not enough for two integer digits, a decimal point, and one fractional digit. Use F4.1 or a wider format instead. On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 1:07 AM Matthias Faeth wrote: > Hi Be

Re: Ctables

2023-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Thanks for the report. What data should I use for this? On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:04 AM Matthias Faeth wrote: > > Hi > > this command crashes reproducible pspp (GNU pspp 1.6.2-ga2512f - Flatpak) > > ctables /table (kauf > alt) [count f2.0] by ort > int. > > while working on SPSS. > > > Matthias Fä

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
It's syntax driven in the sense that no one has built a GUI for it yet, yes. On Fri, Nov 4, 2022, 3:28 PM ft gmail wrote: > Do I understand well that CTABLES is entirely syntax-driven ? > > -ftr > > On 04/11/2022 18:25, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread ft gmail
Do I understand well that CTABLES is entirely syntax-driven ? -ftr On 04/11/2022 18:25, Ben Pfaff wrote: Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual? I included many examples: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/latest/source/user-manual/html_node/CTABLES.html On Fri, Nov 4, 2022

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Since I was starting from a public data set, I wasn't sure whether it was better to use the variables in the data set as is (which are mainly derived from the question numbers in the questionnaire, so you end up with variable names like qn15 for question 15) or to rename them for clarity. I started

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread ft gmail
This is what I looked for: the structure of the command explained with examples. Thank you for the work. For the next version I propose to use easily understandable variable names like in the old red SPSS manual by Nie : CTABLES /TABLE=AGE [MEAN, MEDIAN] BY GENDER /TABLE=AgeGroup [CO

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual? I included many examples: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/latest/source/user-manual/html_node/CTABLES.html On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:05 AM ft gmail wrote: > > Hi, > > I worked with the SPSS version of CTABLES years ago and would like t

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I guess that it should not be difficult to add support for rsvg, since it's widely available on all the distributions I know of (including the flatpak SDK for GNOME). I hope that it does not cause you trouble. On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ben Pfaff wrote: > > I see, thanks. > > On Mon, Aug 29,

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I see, thanks. On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > > I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, > > for > > reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows build yet. > > the builders fail because I have not installed

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Friedrich Beckmann
Hi Ben, > I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, for > reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows build yet. the builders fail because I have not installed rsvg yet. See https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/pspp.git/commit/?id=23d00b8a6a82d177f3f30e

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
A flatpak is just for GNU/Linux. It is a convenient way to install a piece of software. You install PSPP in the usual way. The new version has CTABLES. I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, for reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows build yet

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread ft gmail
Thank you Be, for your work. I am not a UNIX person. What is a flatpak ? How do you install CTABLES when you work under Windows ? Regards, ftr On 29/08/2022 01:36, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just added support for CTABLES to PSPP. It is already available through the autobuilder at https://benpfaff.

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 05:01:43PM +, Charles Johnson wrote: > > 3. Maybe Frans idea about implementing !Macros could serve as a > > workaround. I think that might be worthwhile to discuss. Any opinions > > on that? > > From my point of view, the implementation of macro is very different

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Barry Kiefl
[mailto:pspp-users-bounces+bkiefl=sympatico...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Crichton, Ronald Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 2:53 PM To: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: RE: CTABLES The value of (C)TABLES for me was the ability to publish the output without making edits, and that was always a 2-dimensional table

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Crichton, Ronald
:02 AM To: Matthias Faeth; Ben Pfaff Cc: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: RE: CTABLES > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:53:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: CTABLES > From: m.fa...@gmx.de > To: b...@cs.stanford.edu > CC: charlesjohns...@outlook.com; fhouwel..

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Johnson
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:53:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: CTABLES > From: m.fa...@gmx.de > To: b...@cs.stanford.edu > CC: charlesjohns...@outlook.com; fhouwel...@email.it; > j...@darrington.wattle.id.au; robe...@consumerscan.ca; >

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
ok. That means for me, that we should abort the request for CTABLES until the SPV issue is solved. 1. Has anybody a different opinion? 2. Ben, do you have any idea about the time needed so that we do not rise the issue with CTABLES again and again? 3. Maybe Frans idea about implementing !Macros co

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:28:30AM +0100, Matthias Faeth wrote: > Thanks for the comprehensive explanation why CTABLES depend on the ability > to read SPV files. Do I understand correctly that this dependency comes > only from the pivot-function in the SPV file - meaning that you doubleclick > on a

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
Hi Ben Thanks for the comprehensive explanation why CTABLES depend on the ability to read SPV files. Do I understand correctly that this dependency comes only from the pivot-function in the SPV file - meaning that you doubleclick on a table to change pages? I mean by that the following: The synta

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 06:20:25PM +0100, Matthias Faeth wrote: > I'm not sure if I get the discussion under the label CTABLES here: why > should "production jobs" replace CTABLES? > > Or is it just that there are 3 open topics by now > 1. CTABLES > 2. Production jobs > 3. Reading .spv files > >

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Crichton, Ronald
(C)TABLES is installed. Regards, Ron From: pspp-users-bounces+ronald.crichton=cit.edu...@gnu.org [mailto:pspp-users-bounces+ronald.crichton=cit.edu...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Matthias Faeth Sent: Monday, 9 November 2015 4:20 AM To: Ben Pfaff Cc: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: CTABLES I'

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Matthias Faeth
> > From: b...@cs.stanford.edu > > > To: charlesjohns...@outlook.com > > > CC: fhouwel...@email.it; m.fa...@gmx.de; j...@darrington.wattle.id.au; > robe...@consumerscan.ca; news@free.fr; ame...@alanmead.org; > pspp-users@gnu.org > > > Subject: Re: CTABLES >

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
sumerscan.ca; news@free.fr; ame...@alanmead.org; > > pspp-users@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: CTABLES > > > > I've done a lot of the work needed to figure out the format of SPV > > files. I'm working on publishing a format specification. Then I'll > >

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
; > pspp-users@gnu.org > Subject: Re: CTABLES > > I've done a lot of the work needed to figure out the format of SPV > files. I'm working on publishing a format specification. Then I'll > work on implementing a reader for it. > That is great news. If you need mor

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 12:00:49AM +, Charles Johnson wrote: > Agree with you, the work done by Ben  is magnificent. If I'm not > mistaken, only lack support for SPSS production job  and SPV > files. Under the same argument, it would be very useful for all PSPP > command had its counterpart in

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
.htm CJT > Subject: Re: CTABLES > To: pspp-users@gnu.org > From: fhouwel...@email.it > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 23:31:41 +0100 > > Forgive me if I insist: (C)TABLES belongs to a time when we delivered > mass "big banner" cross tabulations in an appendix for an end

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Frans Houweling
Forgive me if I insist: (C)TABLES belongs to a time when we delivered mass "big banner" cross tabulations in an appendix for an end user who had no access to the data. I almost dare say it encourages bad practice. Since all of us seem to agree that aesthetics are not the

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Alan Mead
What does CTABLES do? And what aspects of CTABLES would be critical for users? I think a plan should be the first step. If CTABLES were part of PSPP, is the output OK? Or would that be the next hurdle to using PSPP that the output isn't the same as SPSS (e.g., I find it harder to copy-and-paste

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
100 > Subject: Re: CTABLES > From: m.fa...@gmx.de > To: j...@darrington.wattle.id.au; pspp-users@gnu.org > > I think we have to find somebody who has done that kind of project > steering before (I haven't). Can everybody look into their contacts to > find somebody

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Matthias Faeth
I think we have to find somebody who has done that kind of project steering before (I haven't). Can everybody look into their contacts to find somebody who would have the skills and will to steer such a project? However I'd volunteer to participate in the workgroup defining the priority of the fun

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-24 Thread Matthias Faeth
So nobody else interested to sponsor a programmer who goes for TABLES or CTABLES funktion (tbd) in PSPP? Or else: Any programmer out there who is interested to do the job? Regards Matthias 2015-02-20 11:43 GMT+01:00 Matthias Faeth : > I agree that the SPSS GUI for CTABLES is of not much use (

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-20 Thread Matthias Faeth
I agree that the SPSS GUI for CTABLES is of not much use (at least in SPSS 17 the lastes that I used) . I for myself would be contend if PSPP would support the code of CTABLES (but not only TABLES as Frank oviously states). So no integration into PSPPire but only into PSPP would be fine for me.

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-19 Thread F. Thomas
On 17/02/2015 23:23, Crichton, Ronald wrote: I work for a govt agency. They may not come up with money, but I could put an argument that as they are currently paying about $2000 per year for an SPSS licence a proportion of that may be a good investment. Actually, I don’t like the version

RE: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Crichton, Ronald
: Matthias Faeth [mailto:m.fa...@gmx.de] Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2015 7:21 PM To: Crichton, Ronald Cc: F. Thomas; pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: CTABLES Command So maybe we can motivate Ben a little. I would think about a kickstarter campaign. I'd put in 500USD for a full CTABLES to get that of

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Matthias Faeth
> Best, > > robert > > > - Original Message - > From: "John Darrington" > To: robe...@consumerscan.ca > Cc: "Matthias Faeth" , pspp-users@gnu.org, "F. Thomas" < > frank_tho...@orange.fr> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread robertl
From: "John Darrington" To: robe...@consumerscan.ca Cc: "Matthias Faeth" , pspp-users@gnu.org, "F. Thomas" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:28:08 AM Subject: Re: CTABLES Command So it seems there are an number of people who want CTABLES are prepared to pay for it

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread John Darrington
Best, robert - Original Message - From: "Matthias Faeth" To: "Ronald Crichton" Cc: pspp-users@gnu.org, "F. Thomas" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:20:41 AM Subject: Re: CTABLES Command So maybe we can m

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread robertl
my 2 cents (Well, 1000 cents, but there you go) Best, robert - Original Message - From: "Matthias Faeth" To: "Ronald Crichton" Cc: pspp-users@gnu.org, "F. Thomas" Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:20:41 AM Subject: Re: CTABLES Command So maybe w

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
I purchased SPSS. To run reports that > > Tables can do so nicely. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: pspp-users-bounces+ronald.crichton=cit.edu...@gnu.org [mailto: > > pspp-users-bounces+ronald.crichton=cit.edu...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of F. > > T

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Matthias Faeth
u...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of F. > Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2015 8:41 AM > To: pspp-users@gnu.org > Subject: Re: CTABLES Command > > A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the > CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. &g

RE: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread Crichton, Ronald
February 2015 8:41 AM To: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: CTABLES Command A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. As other free or open source stats programmes don't offer this opportunity it would r

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread ftr
A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. As other free or open source stats programmes don't offer the capacities of the Tables module its presence would really increase the attractivity of PSPP. - f

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread F. Thomas
A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. As other free or open source stats programmes don't offer this opportunity it would really increase the attractivity of PSPP. - ftr On 16/02/2015 19:38, Ben

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:08:53PM -0600, robe...@consumerscan.ca wrote: > Has there been any progress on CTABLES in PSPP. I have seen some of > the back and forth in the archives. It is a very valuable function of > SPSS and a very powerful tool for people in my field (market research) > for cre

Re: CTables

2010-12-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Dave writes: > For survey work, I frequently need to use Tables. Usually the syntax, which by > the way were suggested to me by an SPSS rep in the days when SPSS was written > by experts in Chicago and customer service was a company hallmark, are like > these: Thank you very much! I now have tw

Re: CTABLES (friedrich nietzsche)

2010-12-04 Thread Michał Dubrawski
Hi, I'm PSPP user and fan since about two years, but as this is my first message to your mailing list I would like at first to thank everybody who develop PSPP and supports its development. What you have done already is really impressive. Thank you also for that mailing list, I have learned useful

Re: Ctables

2010-11-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
friedrich nietzsche writes: > PSPP is an amazing piece of software! Thank you. > Are there any plans on implementing CTABLES? It's a big job. It's on my to-do list, but will probably be months, or longer, before it is ready. -- Ben Pfaff http://benpfaff.org ___