[pfx] Re: install postfix 3.9 on ubuntu 20.04

2024-07-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
Ill be honest. I wasn't as successful as I let on because I noticed that I hadn't include mysql in the build and was up for hours trying to get the mysqlclient and header files. Ended up deleting that VM, started over using the bookworm releases instead. I will give building another go later a

[pfx] Re: Transport settings for mailing list transport

2024-07-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
* Bill Cole via Postfix-users: Some systems are configured to "oversign" headers, essentially signing the non-existence. On 24.07.24 02:11, Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote: Shhh! We don't want to advertise that in this scenario, do we? ;-) Still, you are correct to point out that the DK

[pfx] Re: install postfix 3.9 on ubuntu 20.04

2024-07-24 Thread wesley via Postfix-users
Because I am using the VM, and my VM provider doesn't have ubuntu 24.04 available. maybe I should try to get a ubuntu 24.04 from another provider and install the postfix 3.9 package then. Thanks for all help. - 원본 메일 - 보낸사람: Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users  받는사람: 

[pfx] Re: install postfix 3.9 on ubuntu 20.04

2024-07-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 24.07.24 20:24, wesley via Postfix-users wrote: Because I am using the VM, and my VM provider doesn't have ubuntu 24.04  available. maybe I should try to get a ubuntu 24.04 from another provider and install  the postfix 3.9 package then. Ubuntu can be easily upgraded, you will even have

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users
Dnia 24.07.2024 o godz. 00:14:51 Bob via Postfix-users pisze: > I want "Kill on Sight".  > > Fastest way to me would be Postfix says it logged a connection from > fluffy.cuddly.port.raping.internet-measurement.com calls my script with > the IP address and they get stuffed up IPTables. Despite wha

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
Thanks for the reply. There are some words here, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/179477/how-does-fail2ban-detect-the-time-of-an-intrusion-attempt-if-the-log-files-dont Which suggests that Fail2Ban is continuously scanning logfiles for changes unless you install Gamin which is some sort

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
As a further ramble headers_checks, a line in mine, looks like this /ional.co.uk/ REJECT No Spam Please. At the eame time that Postfix triggers on the match it must know the IP address that was associated with the trigger. Instead of the above... /ional.co.uk/ REJECT No Spam Please. ACTION iptab

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users
On 24.07.24 13:26, Bob via Postfix-users wrote: Thanks for the reply. There are some words here, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/179477/how-does-fail2ban-detect-the-time-of-an-intrusion-attempt-if-the-log-files-dont This article is 9 years old and apparently some parts of it are obso

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
Oooops. Also applies to me :) Bob On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 14:51 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix- users wrote: > This article is 9 years old and apparently some parts of it are > obsolete... ___ Postfix-users mailing list -- postfix-users@postfi

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Allen Coates via Postfix-users
On 24/07/2024 13:11, Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users wrote: >> I want "Kill on Sight".  >> >> Fastest way to me would be Postfix says it logged a connection from >> fluffy.cuddly.port.raping.internet-measurement.com calls my script with >> the IP address and they get stuffed up IPTables. These pa

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Bob via Postfix-users: > As a further ramble headers_checks, a line in mine, looks like this > > /ional.co.uk/ REJECT No Spam Please. > > At the eame time that Postfix triggers on the match it must know the IP > address that was associated with the trigger. Instead of the above... > > /ional.co.

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 24/07/2024 23:23, Allen Coates via Postfix-users wrote: On 24/07/2024 13:11, Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users wrote: I want "Kill on Sight". Fastest way to me would be Postfix says it logged a connection from fluffy.cuddly.port.raping.internet-measurement.com calls my script with the IP add

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
I get it might be a bit flakey from a security perspective and should come with warnings but it is my box. As an aside the contents of my /etc/postfix directory are owned by root so I assume Postfix needs root priveledges to access them. That seems like its already halfway down that particular ra

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users: > I'm sure postfix can be configured to use normal log files, or is that > something that has to be made available at build-time? https://www.postfix.org/MAILLOG_README.html Available with Postfix version 3.4 or later. This includes logging to stdout while runn

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
Yes. It was just an example. However many of these uninvited warts don't publish such information and I have no doubt that they periodically roll addresses. No I am not going to send them an e-mail so they can pretend to go away. The rest of my logs are stuffed with "user<>" and "unknown" or "does

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
Not sure when it happened but when I had to reinstall it on my Pi the Pi was missing, ISTR, rsyslog so it was not the fault of Postfix. I just had to put rsyslog back in and logging was back to normal. Your link has the glimmer of a plan but would I not be back to having to periodically scan stdou

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 24/07/2024 23:58, Bob via Postfix-users wrote: [SNIP] The rest of my logs are stuffed with "user<>" and "unknown" or "does not resolve to" so they can get in the sea as well. This is exactly what postscreen - which is part of postfix - and fail2ban were developed to handle. I get a lot of

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Bob via Postfix-users
Thanks... Toddles of to read about PostScreen "Wietse expects that the zombie problem will get worse before things improve, if ever." Waves. Sorry if I am being ittitating. Bob On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 00:12 +1000, Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users wrote: > This is exactly what postscreen - which

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 25/07/2024 00:08, Bob via Postfix-users wrote: [SNIP] Your link has the glimmer of a plan but would I not be back to having to periodically scan stdout, a file, to check for changes needimg action? The fail2ban daemon does that for you. Once you implement postcreen and the spamhaus recomme

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Gary R. Schmidt via Postfix-users
On 25/07/2024 00:19, Bob wrote: Thanks... Toddles of to read about PostScreen "Wietse expects that the zombie problem will get worse before things improve, if ever." Waves. Sorry if I am being ittitating. Oh, don't worry, you are showings signs of learning behaviour, something that seems all

[pfx] Re: Transport settings for mailing list transport

2024-07-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote in : |>* Bill Cole via Postfix-users: |>> Some systems are configured to "oversign" headers, essentially signing |>> the non-existence. | |On 24.07.24 02:11, Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote: |>Shhh! We don't want to advertise that in this

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Keith wrote in : |Hmm Policy Server. Do I have to install one and read the Man Pages? | |Then again I might take heart from the suggestion that this has been |done before although the mention of blocklisting and coloured flags |suggests others decided it was a bad idea. | |I get that cause

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users: > Keith wrote in > : > |Hmm Policy Server. Do I have to install one and read the Man Pages? > | > |Then again I might take heart from the suggestion that this has been > |done before although the mention of blocklisting and coloured flags > |suggests others

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote in <4wtl814dp5zj...@spike.porcupine.org>: |Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users: |> Keith wrote in |> : |>|Hmm Policy Server. Do I have to install one and read the Man Pages? ... |> The op wants to be able to reject the one emails, and to block IPs |> of

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users
* Jaroslaw Rafa via Postfix-users: > Despite what you say about your unsuccessful attempts with fail2ban, > it seems the best tool for the job. It's the whole idea of fail2ban > anyway - if "SOMETHING" appears in the logfile "SOME" number of times > (which can be 1), then stuff the IP address into

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users
* Bob via Postfix-users: > I get it might be a bit flakey from a security perspective and should > come with warnings but it is my box. I think it is more than "a bit flakey". You ask Wietse to support something which introduces a significant security risk. Plus, this particular something is not

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Ralph Seichter, Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote in <87v80ujyjr@ra.horus-it.com>: |* Bob via Postfix-users: | |> I get it might be a bit flakey from a security perspective and should |> come with warnings but it is my box. | |I think it is more than "a bit flakey". You ask Wietse t

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread wesley via Postfix-users
what's the main difference between a policy server and a milter? I searched and found this link: https://serverfault.com/questions/1149051/what-difference-does-it-make-to-implement-a-feature-as-policy-service-vs-as-milt but I am still not pretty sure. Thanks. - 원본 메일 - 보낸

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users
* Steffen Nurpmeso: > >I think it is more than "a bit flakey". You ask Wietse to support > >something which introduces a significant security risk. > > Now you exaggerate a bit. Not really, the original example of invoking "iptables" directly requires root provileges. That could be mitigated by u

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread postfix--- via Postfix-users
what's the main difference between a policy server and a milter? Policy Server: - Coded quickly in scripting language - Lightweight, simple, and fast to setup - Is only provided limited header information by postfix for evaluating Milter: - More complicated to setup and code - Has access

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
postfix--- via Postfix-users: > > what's the main difference between a policy server and a milter? > > > Policy Server: > - Coded quickly in scripting language > - Lightweight, simple, and fast to setup > - Is only provided limited header information by postfix for evaluating No headers or

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users
Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote in <87a5i6pesk@ra.horus-it.com>: |* Steffen Nurpmeso: | |>>I think it is more than "a bit flakey". You ask Wietse to support |>>something which introduces a significant security risk. |> |> Now you exaggerate a bit. | |Not really, the original exa

[pfx] Re: RFC logs_check

2024-07-24 Thread wesley via Postfix-users
Great examples. Thanks for pointing out that. - 원본 메일 - 보낸사람: Wietse Venema via Postfix-users  받는사람: Postfix users  날짜: 24.07.25 08:57 GMT +0900 제목: [pfx] Re: RFC logs_check postfix--- via Postfix-users: > > what's the main difference between a policy server and a milter?