sword to log in to send mail. Postfix supports
this, but if you were
using it I expect you'd know about it already.
https://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#server_vrfy_client
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there has to be an app.
There are several. The most popular is MacDroid, I use Phone Mechanic.
They all transfer over a USB cable which is probably faster than wifi.
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And you do!! JhillOn Apr 19, 2025 9:52 PM, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:John Hill via Postfix-users:
> I was deleting file then, copy in new one.
>
> I stopped the deletion. It seems to work.
>
> I thought of writing directly to the file in the maps directory.
>
> But not sure a
I was deleting file then, copy in new one.
I stopped the deletion. It seems to work.
I thought of writing directly to the file in the maps directory.
But not sure about the file locking you mentioned.
I'll do some more homework.
thx
--john
On 4/19/25 6:10 PM, Wietse Venema via Po
Just checking
Thanks
--john
On 4/19/25 12:08 PM, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 11:11:11AM -0400, John Hill via Postfix-users wrote:
When I manually update my lmdb access tables, adding or deleting. I see this
message in the log: error: accept connection
work OK. I am using postmap -i on the tables.
I create access tables in a working directory, then copy them to the
postfix maps directory and run postmap.
Am I doing something wrong?
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On 3/31/25 3:22 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote:
On 29.03.25 17:41, John Hill via Postfix-users wrote:
In my last gig I ran Exchange, Oracle and various Debian servers. I
retired and set up Postfix, bind9 etc to support my hobby domain. It
keeps me involved.
I use
Found it.
Received: from LV3PR01MB8676.prod.exchangelabs.com
It was blocked in header checks.
Probably bad code on my part.
sorry
--john
On 3/29/25 8:13 PM, John Hill via Postfix-users wrote:
Somehow postfix-users got dumped for content at cleanup.
Not sure why. But I cleaned the file of
Somehow postfix-users got dumped for content at cleanup.
Not sure why. But I cleaned the file of anything I was not sure of.
--john
On 3/29/25 10:30 AM, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 10:16:00AM -0400, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:
John Hill via
had
not used postmap on postscreen's cidr files previously. I read doing so
would eliminate reloading on updates.
Testing now. Looks good so far.
Great Product, Great Group.
thx
--john
On 3/29/25 2:03 PM, Phil Stracchino via Postfix-users wrote:
On 3/29/25 07:01, John Hill via Po
).
I'll see if I can find an rbl config for it.
I am appreciative of a great product - Postfix, and the amount of support.
Thanks
--john
On 3/29/25 10:16 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:
John Hill via Postfix-users:
I'm concerned most about postfix reloads. I have a small system only 4
users
ables offers an "atomic" reload. I use MariaDB for the virtual user
info. I wondered if maps or cdir
could read be read from it and eliminate the reload. Maybe a way to do a
map read while still in process?
--john
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John H
What is the recommended way to use make map?
Also is MariaDB really that much better?
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d more than DNA Alias ?
And is there any performance or other issue with Alias records ?
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And is there any performance or other issue with Alias records ?
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t hints to
retrieve addresses for hosts off our domain.
I configured DNSSEC to handle the domains that were failing lookup.
Anyway, thanks to all.
John
Mar 7, 2025 11:58:26 PM Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users
:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 02:38:23PM
), and usps.gov (algorithm
7).
The current recommended algorithms are 14, 15, and 16 with 15 being preferred
according to RFC 8624 sec. 3.1.
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How about a port forward rule in the NAT router?
25587 -> host:587
That way the host gets gets the traffic on a port it understands.
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operators.
As far as I know, Steffen is the only person anywhere who has done so. So I
wouldn't hold
my breath expecting it to interoperate.
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On 2/18/25 12:34, Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote:
On 18.02.25 12:18, John Griffiths via Postfix-users wrote:
I am getting soft bounces even with soft_bounce = no set in main.cf.
Feb 18 02:03:17 joe postfix/smtpd[601395]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
from
I am getting soft bounces even with soft_bounce = no set in main.cf.
Feb 18 02:03:17 joe postfix/smtpd[601395]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
from inbound2b.ore.mailhop.org[54.68.193.51]:
450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain
not found; from= to=<
john.griffith...@floridasunre.com>
d and why
it was set by default is a topic for Ubiquity to answer.
My apologies for taking everyone's time.
Highest regards,
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Thanks. Got the same result.
I get a reply from the server just upstream from the host but not the host.
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I just spent 1 1/2 hours on a chat with my ISP "tech support." What a
waste of time.
{rant] All I wanted them to do was open a web browser and try and reach
the site from inside the Frontier network. They either couldn't or
wouldn't. I even mentioned that the site was a TOR inner node. I don'
r.com
John
On 2/12/25 12:58, Claus R. Wickinghoff via Postfix-users wrote:
Hi John,
traceroute from my home (Belgium) also ends there:
6 * * *
7 4.68.70.53 (4.68.70.53) 30.650 ms 36.191 ms 35.500 ms
8 ae2.2.edge1.hel1.neo.colt.net (171.75.10.35) 69.395 ms 52.781 ms
56.449 m
x27;ll update all my bookmarks to use a mirror.
Thanks all for trying.
John
On 2/12/25 12:03, Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote:
* John Griffiths via Postfix-users:
Is my IP, 47.201.27.231, or the subnet(s) blocked in the firewall?
There are currently no existing blocks in the 47.201.
Correction: I was only trying to connect using https or http.
Is my IP, 47.201.27.231, or the subnet(s) blocked in the firewall?
John
On 2/11/25 17:45, Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users wrote:
* John Griffiths via Postfix-users:
I cannot reach thewww.postfix.org server. I have to use a
Hoping an admin is on this list and will unblock me.
John
On 2/11/25 14:10, Jim Garrison via Postfix-users wrote:
On 2/11/2025 10:45, John Griffiths via Postfix-users wrote:
Hit send too soon.
sudo traceroute -I 65.108.3.114
traceroute to 65.108.3.114 (65.108.3.114), 30 hops max
.hetzner.com (213.239.252.198) 151.152 ms
150.267 ms 150.374 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
never get to ra.horus-it.com (65.108.3.114).
John
On 2/11/25 13:37, Jim Garrison via Postfix-users wrote:
On 2/11/2025 09:43, John Griffiths via Postfix-users wrote:
I am trying to determine
I was running traceroute as root.
On 2/11/25 13:37, Jim Garrison via Postfix-users wrote:
On 2/11/2025 09:43, John Griffiths via Postfix-users wrote:
I am trying to determine whether it is a routing issue or my IP or
domain have been blacklisted.
Running traceroute the problem appears to
65.108.3.114 I find that it belongs to Hetzner
Online GmbH and is transferred to RIPE Network Coordination Centre (RIPE).
When I run whois on postfix.org, I get:
whois postfix.org
connect: Connection refused
So it seems my IP or domain have been blacklisted. Why?
John
On 2/11/25 12:13
Sorry for the interruption of postfix technical discussions.
I cannot reach the www.postfix.org server. I have to use a mirror if I
want to get to the documentation.
I've found using host and dig that www.postfix.org is a cname for
postfix-mirror.horus-it.com (65.108.3.114). That mirror is
Checked 127.0.0.1 works also local net ip as well. Mailbox.com saw no
problems.
always good to check.
thx
--john
On 12/18/24 11:34 AM, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:
John Hill via Postfix-users:
I use bind9 on Debian. I will look closer to see if it needs some work.
Using BIND
I use bind9 on Debian. I will look closer to see if it needs some work.
Thx
--john
On 12/18/24 10:04 AM, Bill Cole via Postfix-users wrote:
On 2024-12-18 at 08:03:12 UTC-0500 (Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:03:12 -0500)
John Hill via Postfix-users
is rumored to have said:
Today I feel like an
never had a failed dkim that I remember.
It looks like big mailers have servers barfing email with domains that
are not in dns at all.
I am always looking at better ways to setup postfix?
Are tools like dkim etc, getting to old or being incorrectly used?
--john
xperiment to put backup ASCII
addresses in EAI addresses, and RFCs 6857 and 6858 for elaborate but
almost entirely unused ways to downgrade received mail for non-EAI
POP and IMAP clients.
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7;t feel strongly about where that should happen but I don't think it
is all that common to have non-ASCII text in the passwd file so putting
the MIME encoded version there is likely the easiest path.
R's,
John
PS: GECOS was definitely ASCII only since it predated Unicode by sev
can't publish DNS records at all so he doesn't have a DMARC
policy.
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> "Ken" == Ken Gillett via Postfix-users writes:
> Thank you for your words of wisdom Wietse. 😉
> I rather thought you understood how 'silly' it would be to run a find command
> for postconf as I had already clearly explained (at least 3 times 🙂) I knew
> where both versions were located an
>>>>> "Wietse" == Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
>>>>> writes:
> John Stoffel:
>> >>>>> "Wietse" == Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
>> >>>>> writes:
>>
>> > Postfix lists are run
> "Wietse" == Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
> writes:
> Postfix lists are run by Mailman3, configured to replace the From:
> addres with the list address; Mailman3 then unconditionally adds
> the original From: addres to Reply-to:. This is standard Mailman
> damage control for DMARC.
ple.com bar
Is there some clever way I can tell it to rewrite all of the
envelope senders for stuff forwarded through one set of alises?
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Yea, I got that. I made changes as I stick my maps under a sub directory.
I would love to see a redacted copy of your configs.
Postfix configs are defiantly page turners.
--john
On 9/17/2024 9:32 AM, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 08:01:51AM -0400, John Hill
main.cf:
indexed = ${default_database_type}:${config_directory}/
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ${indexed}recipient-access
I see what your doing here.
It is less to type.
Is there any other advantage?
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There's also SNI, Server Name Indication, which the client can use to say which
cert it's looking for. See:
https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#tls_server_sni_maps
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On 08/08/2024 22:36, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users wrote:
Paul Menzel via Postfix-users:
Stack trace of thread 468215:
#0 0x00404610 strlcpy (vacation + 0x4610)
#1
to suggest that
neither a code error or message input is the cause.
Despite the freebsd manual page the strlcpy code in vacation looks safe
to me even when copying strings that are not terminated by null.
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:.*@stupidspammers\.example/ DISCARD
> postmap /etc/postfix/header_checks
> and in main.cf :
> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks
> postfix reload
> should work..
I'll consider this solution.
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> Dnia 30.07.2024 o godz. 16:19:01 John Thorvald Wodder II via Postfix-users
> pisze:
>> The "access" file currently contains REJECT lines for both
>> "spamgateway.nil" (no leadin
only then will you get the failure
message. If you publish MX 0 . the mail will fail instantly and you'll
know right away.
I suppose there is some benefit in keeping probes away in case you screw
up your config and enable a mail server by default, but the places that
sw
Thanks Laura, Victor and Wietse for your responses. This info is very
helpful. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights.
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host1.example.com in the EHLO, is there a requirement or even an
expectation that postmas...@example.com will be able to receive email.
In that case I'd need to define an incoming email server only for that
purpose, since there are no other email addresses in my example.
eaders and isn't the domain of the actual server the e-mails are
coming from.
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> John Thorvald Wodder II via Postfix-users:
>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 15:36, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> John Thorvald Wodder II via Postfix-users:
>>>> (I previously pos
On Jul 30, 2024, at 15:36, Wietse Venema via Postfix-users
wrote:
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> John Thorvald Wodder II via Postfix-users:
>> (I previously posted this request for help on ServerFault but got
>> no responses, so I'm hoping the official Postfix mailing list will
>> go better.
t_maps =
luser_relay = REDACTED
mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
ORIGINAL_RECIPIENT="$ORIGINAL_RECIPIENT"
mailbox_size_limit = 0
recipient_delimiter = +
# DKIM:
milter_protocol = 2
milter_default_action = accept
smtpd_milters = inet:localhost:12301
non_smtpd_milters = inet:localhost:123
On 13/07/2024 12:50, Francis Augusto Medeiros-Logeay via Postfix-users
wrote:
Thanks a lot John and Peter!
In fact this is a family server, so it’s kinda important for us to not
miss emails. And it happened once that mails were not delivered
because of typos.
I was a bit worried about
t;no reply" addresses, but I'm not going to lose
sleep over it :-)
John
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On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 12:01:38AM +0200, John Fawcett via Postfix-users wrote:
I checked https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html and I can see:
smtpd_sasl_type (default: cyrus)
The SASL plug-in type that the Postfix SMTP
On 12/07/2024 23:56, John Levine wrote:
It appears that John Fawcett via Postfix-users said:
I didn't see anywhere what your value of smtpd_sasl_type is (as
applicable to the sasl type used by the smtp server.
Bingo. Thanks.
In my defence, if you look at https://www.postfix.org/postc
It appears that John Fawcett via Postfix-users said:
>I didn't see anywhere what your value of smtpd_sasl_type is (as
>applicable to the sasl type used by the smtp server.
Bingo. Thanks.
In my defence, if you look at https://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html
which purports to list
On 12/07/2024 23:13, John R. Levine via Postfix-users wrote:
Hi, now that Viktor spotted the config error and fixed yesterday's
problem, I'm back with what I hope is another dumb question. Having
wrestled Cyrus authentication to a draw, now I'm trying Dovecot which
I would have
at Dovecot is listening on that socket. The socket is owned by
postfix and I am
reasonably sure the directories in the path allow postfix to open it. I'm
baffled.
Actual config stuff below, since this is my own test system. TIA.
R's,
John
# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/e
one point was badly worded below, the following is better:
If you accepted both valid and invalid recipients your reject would be
for both recipients. (I implied the reject went to the receipient which
is nonsense).
On 12/07/2024 16:59, John Fawcett via Postfix-users wrote:
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f you only accept valid recipients and it so happens the
message was addressed to a single invalid recipient, the smtp session
would not get to the DATA stage.
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herwise your server could become a source of backscatter and
end up getting on block lists. Spam routinely uses forged sender
addresses. If you reject it at the smtp level, then the forged sender is
not impacted. If you accept and then bounce it, you're bouncing to
someone who likely di
On 12/07/2024 00:14, John R. Levine via Postfix-users wrote:
Last month I asked for advice on limiting specific senders
to specific recipients, and Wietse offered this:
/etc/postfix/main.cf:
smtpd_sender_restrictions =
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/restricted_senders
start looking? I can't send you the whole main.cf
without getting permission that will take a while, but here's what I
hope might be relevant bits. For some reason lost in the mists of history
they use lmdb: rather than hash: for their hash tables. Should that mat
f ${sender} -d ${recipient}
and in main.cf
mailbox_transport=dovecot
dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1
mailbox_command =
home_mailbox =
Other setups are possible too, but hopefully this one is nearer to your
current configuration.
John
On 08/07/2024 00:02, Robert Fuhrer via Postfix-u
her users, I would just list them as
local recipients. You could just add an additional map file to
local_recipient_maps listing these users. You could even drop the
unix:passwd.byname lookup if you also list your existing user in that
map. What type of user database you are using in Dovecot?
John
_
tem username without the domain.
postmap -q xx unix:passwd.byname
John
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On 07/07/2024 13:09, Victoriano Giralt via Postfix-users wrote:
El dom, 07-07-2024 a las 12:51 +0200, John Fawcett via Postfix-users
escribió:
On 07/07/2024 06:18, Nick Edwards via Postfix-users wrote:
...
I haven't personally used the $ syntax you're using so I can't say
ave no $ in front
of my restriction classes. As mentioned by Allen in that case you'll
need to use the smtpd_restriction_classes configuration to tell postfix
which custom restriction classes you're defining.
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ur "sasldb".
This is a test setup in a virtual machine on my laptop. The names of the
users don't really matter.
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Please consider the environment before reading thi
od.
Other than that I'm using the default configs in the documentation and
it seems to work. I've been able to connect to port 465, auth, and
send myself test messages.
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>Have you posted "postconf -nf" and "postconf -Mf" output (with as-is
>whitespace, including line-breaks)?
I will, see below.
>> But when I try to get postfix to authenticate, I cannot get it even to talk
>> to
>> the daemon.
>
>What's th
t: PLAIN LOGIN
The default location for the saslauthd socket is /var/run/saslauthd
but postfix is chrooted so I've tried having the daemon listen there
or at /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd. The daemon works fine
either way, per the test above, but postfix doesn't talk to
e like creating
config files that say to use the saslauth user which doesn't exist.
Does someone have this all working so I can borrow your config files? TIA.
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y check that pass.
That's not a bug, that's how it's supposed to work, SPF uses the HELO
if the return path is null. See section 2.4 of RFC 7208 and 4.1 of RFC
7489.
We're nearly done with some updates to the DMARC spec and
mail specification that allows a message to be marked as unable to be
>replied to.
You might want to take a look at RFCs 7504 and 7505.
I do agree that sending mail you can't reply to is rude, regardless
of the technical details.
R's,
John
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ike put check_recipient_access as the action in the
check_sender_access table?
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2024, Jeff Peng wrote:
I think postscreen can block them easily.
I'm looking at the postscreen man page and I don't see anything about mail
addresses. Am I missing something?
I do see smtpd_command_filter. How about if I map MAIL FROM: to QUIT?
Regards,
John
s?
The list is short so if it has to be hand-edited into config files,
that's OK.
I'm not sure exactly why they want to do it this way but they have
been running mail systems for a long time (some of you surely know
them) and I assume they hav
ink in the mail directory named dovecot.sieve.
John
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by the logs may be lower than the number of
probes being avoided by using it. This would be the case if the probe
scripts have an adaptive behaviour, increasing the probes where they
start getting real responses to AUTH and backing off if they get
disconnected before AUTH.
John
On 29/05/2024
On 29/05/2024 14:07, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 07:26:10AM -0400, John Hill via Postfix-users wrote:
The wrapper-mode TLS "smtps" rejects are naturally after the TLS
handshake.
465 inet n - n - -
zen.spamhaus.org should be used as authbl, but not pbl 127.0.0.10
and 127.0.0.11
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I'll fix this
thanks
-
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On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:58:31AM +1000, Viktor Dukhovni via
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You might in fact want to reject XBL IPs early, before they even
attempt authentication
eject
All set up this way.
I will let it run overnight and see what hits.
Thank you
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On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 09:32:29PM -0400, John Hill via Postfix-users wrote:
On 5/28/24 9:23 PM, Viktor Dukhovni via Postfix-users wrote:
-o { smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org
close to this.
I will use it.
Question as I use zen 127.0.0.[2..11] on port 25
I have only 10 users that should have access to port 587.
Why not us zen 127.0.0.[2..11] there as well?
Thanks
--john
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Hi John
I think you are missing the following in master.cf for the submission
service
-o
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