Hit send too soon.

   sudo traceroute -I 65.108.3.114
   traceroute to 65.108.3.114 (65.108.3.114), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
   1  router.internal.grifent.com (192.168.1.1)  0.212 ms  0.227 ms
     0.221 ms
   2  47.204.132.1 (47.204.132.1)  2.133 ms  2.127 ms  2.192 ms
   3  ae10--100.ber01.tamp.fl.frontiernet.net (184.19.249.120)  4.819
   ms  4.814 ms  4.811 ms
   4  ae11---0.scr03.mias.fl.frontiernet.net (74.40.10.180)  10.152 ms
     10.330 ms  10.507 ms
   5  ae0---0.cbr06.mias.fl.frontiernet.net (45.52.201.157)  11.204 ms
     11.199 ms  11.194 ms
   6  4.2.240.253 (4.2.240.253)  13.040 ms  12.929 ms  12.870 ms
   7  ae2.2.edge1.hel1.neo.colt.net (171.75.10.35)  153.061 ms  151.108
   ms  151.019 ms
   8  212.133.6.2 (212.133.6.2)  150.048 ms  150.596 ms  150.564 ms
   9  core32.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.26)  150.361 ms  150.874 ms
     150.839 ms
   10  ex9k1.dc6.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.198)  151.152 ms
     150.267 ms  150.374 ms
   11  * * *
   12  * * *

never get to ra.horus-it.com (65.108.3.114).

    John



On 2/11/25 13:37, Jim Garrison via Postfix-users wrote:
On 2/11/2025 09:43, John Griffiths via Postfix-users wrote:
I am trying to determine whether it is a routing issue or my IP or domain have been blacklisted.

Running  traceroute the problem appears to be at ex9k1.dc6.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.198) which is in Germany.

traceroute can be deceiving since without root access it uses UDP probes, which can get blocked many places.

Here's a data point - traceroute (sudo mtr, using ICMP) from Comcast (Portland, OR):

IPv6
...
17. ex9k1.dc6.hel1.hetzner.com
18. ra.horus-it.com

IPv4
...
10. ex9k1.dc6.hel1.hetzner.com
11. ra.horus-it.com

And "sudo traceroute -I 65.108.3.114" (using ICMP, times removed to avoid linebreaks)

$ sudo traceroute -I 65.108.3.114
traceroute to 65.108.3.114 (65.108.3.114), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  janus.jhmg.pvt (192.168.10.254)
 2  100.93.174.3 (100.93.174.3)
 3  po-332-364-rur202.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net (96.108.64.189)
 4  po-200-xar02.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net (96.216.60.165)
 5  ae-69-ar01.troutdale.or.bverton.comcast.net (68.85.243.197)
 6  ae5.bar4.por1.sp.lumen.tech (4.68.37.245)
 7  ae2.2.edge1.hel1.neo.colt.net (171.75.10.35)
 8  212.133.6.2 (212.133.6.2)
 9  core32.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.26)
10  ex9k1.dc6.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.252.198)
11  ra.horus-it.com (65.108.3.114)  181.064 ms * *

So if you can ICMP ping successfully, then a blacklist, if one exists would be on the Postfix web server itself.

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