Re: [Pharo-users] Writing files - Mac OS or Pharo change?

This seems this error: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19227/Writing-a-File-with-a-relative-path-to-the-working-directory-results-in-FileException-cannot-open-file

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo contribution Jenkins broken?

Hi, Sven already sent a mail that this is related to the VM installation: ... Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui On a 64-bit system? You must install the 32-bit libraries Try `sudo aptitude install ia32-libs` or see http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

+ 1 :) share codevelop and expand :) Le 27/10/16 à 17:43, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit : Hi Dimitris, Goals 1 to 6 overlap with the ones Grafoscopio. Could you test it please to see if we can work together in some way or Grafoscopio could work as a foundation for your work? In tha

Re: [Pharo-users] DatePrinter

French is already in and there are so great class comments that I'm crying because of outshined by beauty. Please, don't cry ;-) Excellent job of sven as usual. Thx. The ZTimestamp package also contains ZTimestampFormat (a by-example printer & parser), I love it :) I threw away all my cod

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

Dimitri when you are done I will add an entry in the http://books.pharo.org I did one for the spec tutorial so we will be able to announce both. Stef Le 27/10/16 à 13:32, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : In case someone missed it I will be doing a release for version 5 (pharo version = pbe versi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

we need a fresnel lens and such books are some :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens Le 27/10/16 à 13:32, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : In case someone missed it I will be doing a release for version 5 (pharo version = pbe version) this weekend , since we had Pharo 7 initiated few days

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing files - Mac OS or Pharo change?

Le 28/10/16 à 10:33, Marcus Denker a écrit : This seems this error: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19227/Writing-a-File-with-a-relative-path-to-the-working-directory-results-in-FileException-cannot-open-file and this is caused by it, too. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19064/Fuel-out-s

[Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

I just noticed that OSProcess misses from Pharo 6 image, it was supposed to be replaced by OSSubProcess but this not in the image either ? What we suppose to use to execute bash from inside pharo ?

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

> Am 28.10.2016 um 13:17 schrieb Dimitris Chloupis : > > I just noticed that OSProcess misses from Pharo 6 image, it was supposed to > be replaced by OSSubProcess but this not in the image either ? What we > suppose to use to execute bash from inside pharo ? It was never in the image. You nee

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

I have a love and hate relationship with Pharo this one I will put in the hate category You expect people to use pharo when you do not offer functionality they come to expect from the language they already use and not even offer an altervative, say a library with similar command line functionality

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

But the functionality is there, it's just that it is not loaded by default. Loading it by default implies wedding Pharo's life cycle with OS(Sub)Process' one, and having to maintain the possibility of dependencies to OS(Sub)Process spreading in the entire environment. What is wrong in executi

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

2016-10-28 14:12 GMT+02:00 Guille Polito : > But the functionality is there, it's just that it is not loaded by default. > > Loading it by default implies wedding Pharo's life cycle with > OS(Sub)Process' one, and having to maintain the possibility of dependencies > to OS(Sub)Process spreading in

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

Original Message 2016-10-28 14:12 GMT+02:00 Guille Polito >: But the functionality is there, it's just that it is not loaded by default. Loading it by default implies wedding Pharo's life cycle with OS(Sub)Process' o

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

For those not experienced with other language let me offer here an explanation why having something like OSProcess is vastly important. Coding even before the time of Smalltalk has been tied to the command line, even in this day all languages come with the ability of the command line to use them a

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

For what it is worth, I am with Dimitris on this: sub shell execution is so fundamental that it should be a standard part of the image. I always thought that that was the goal of the new OSSubProcess. > On 28 Oct 2016, at 15:25, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > For those not experienced with other

[Pharo-users] SubModules and SubTrees? ..... Was ----> OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

On 10/28/16 6:05 AM, Guille Polito wrote: Also, we are starting to see how to move Pharo sources to git, and this means we are looking at how we should design Pharo's repository so we can smoothly collaborate and synchronize repositories using pull requests. For example, these two last wee

Re: [Pharo-users] SubModules and SubTrees? ..... Was ----> OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

I'm not going to smalltalks, but maybe we can do an skype (or a public discord) any time soon? Original Message On 10/28/16 6:05 AM, Guille Polito wrote: Also, we are starting to see how to move Pharo sources to git, and this means we are looking at how we should design

Re: [Pharo-users] SubModules and SubTrees? ..... Was ----> OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

Guille that would be great ... I am in the process of writing the presentation but would make time to talk with you ... lets arrange to skype or discord sometime next week ... Dale On 10/28/16 7:53 AM, Guille Polito wrote: I'm not going to smalltalks, but maybe we can do an skype (or a public

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

Yes, me too. OSProcess/SubProcess should be included in the default image. 2016-10-28 10:29 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe : > For what it is worth, I am with Dimitris on this: sub shell execution is > so fundamental that it should be a standard part of the image. I always > thought that that

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

Thank you for pushing this new version of Pharo by Example ! Would be nice to put Pharo 5.0 edition in the cover maybe ? Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 28 oct. 2016 à 15:47, stepharo a écrit : > > we need a fresnel lens and such books are some :) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_lens > >

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

This is also part of the vision document. Now first SubOSProcess should work on windows. Then Guillermo is RIGHT. We will continue to work on - creating a pharo minimal image - producing configurations - creating one image with default loaded configurations. You see the two obje

Re: [Pharo-users] [ALERT] Pharo by Example version 5 is about to be released

my pleasure I think all 3 books must be front page indeed , PBE5 , Pharo for the Enterprise and Deep Into Pharo Newcomers 99% of the time they only notice PBE1 and that for me is unacceptable, Pharo is not as it is when I started using it 5 years ago with almost zero documentation , we have come

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

+1 One step at a time. When we are close to this we can extensively argue what should be the distribution that ships. Complaining is always easy. If we make the image containing a lot of stuff and maintaining that will postpone releases it will be different complaints Norbert > Am 28.10.2016

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec: Layout Problems

--- Begin Message --- Hi Brad, a quick solution could be to group the first two columns in this way: WidgetBrad class>>defaultSpec ^ SpecLayout composed newRow: [ :r | r newColumn: [ :f | f newRow: [ :k | k

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing files - Mac OS or Pharo change?

Thanks Markus and Stef On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 5:49 AM, stepharo wrote: > > > Le 28/10/16 à 10:33, Marcus Denker a écrit : > > This seems this error: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19227/Writing-a-File- > with-a-relative-path-to-the-working-directory-results-in- > FileException-cannot-op

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

If you talking about me, no it does not work like that. Complaining is easy indeed but what is easier for me is just using Python libraries from Pharo , this way I don't wait for you to implements features I need and you don't have to endure my complaining. Win - win situation. Soon I will also b

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

On 28 October 2016 at 14:12, Guille Polito wrote: > What is wrong in executing a simple Metacello command to load it? What's wrong is, it's not convenient / easy / publicized enough. There isn't a nice user story about dependency management and package loading, even though technically everythin

Re: [Pharo-users] OSProcess missing from Pharo 6 image

This 5 years time span looks like accurate in what it takes to become somewhat proficient with Pharo. I am curious to know how long one required to grok it. Because there is a world between the "syntax on a postcard" narrative and the "dig in the bowels of the beast" narrative. Anyone? Phil On