Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-12 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
So far coding solo with git and filetree has been painless and straightforward for me, I use github for public and gitlab for private projects. I do not use configurations other than copy pasting one for adding my project in Package browser. I do not use versioner because a simple copy paste is eno

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-11 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 11/05/2017 à 20:52, Stephane Ducasse a écrit : Joachim many people are using Pharo to develop ***COMPLEX*** Pharo applications and it works. They use monticello and metacello and it works. So you do not have to have Github to make great software in Pharo. Now in addition many people are usin

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Joachim many people are using Pharo to develop ***COMPLEX*** Pharo applications and it works. They use monticello and metacello and it works. So you do not have to have Github to make great software in Pharo. Now in addition many people are using github to build complex applications with github.

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 11.05.2017 um 08:54 schrieb jtuc...@objektfabrik.de: > > Hi Norbert, > > thanks for your explanations. > So it seems liek I should start by using Pharo6 and load Iceberg and just > take a look. > Yes, iceberg has still some issues but is usable and it will evolve quickly. If you are the

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-11 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Hi again, seems like I am too early. I just downloaded Pharo-60484 and loaded Iceberg from the Catalog Browser and I get a Walkbacks as answer to almost any click I perform ;-) So I'll better start with the docs suggested in this thread to be ready once Iceberg is ;-) Joachim Am 10.05.17

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Hi Norbert, thanks for your explanations. So it seems liek I should start by using Pharo6 and load Iceberg and just take a look. Joachim Am 10.05.17 um 10:34 schrieb Norbert Hartl: Hi Joachim, I think your timing is quite good. We had some changes in the last years and it is getting bett

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Joachim Tuchel wrote: > Hi guys, > > please forgive me if this mail is a sign of ignorance. I am not a regular > Pharo user and one of the reasons for this is that I didn't like most of the > source management tools around Monticello. Coming from an envy background

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi Joachim, I think your timing is quite good. We had some changes in the last years and it is getting better now. Before we had only monticello. Monticello is a zip container that contains a version number in the filename and prior version pointer inside the repository. Regarding dependencies

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Peter, thanks for your view and links. Helps me sort things out and find what's remained and keeps being relevant ;-) Joachim Am 10.05.17 um 10:08 schrieb Peter Uhnak: Hi, this is my (=not canonical) perspective On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 07:56:19AM +0200, Joachim Tuchel wrote: Hi guys, ple

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread Peter Uhnak
Hi, this is my (=not canonical) perspective On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 07:56:19AM +0200, Joachim Tuchel wrote: > Hi guys, > > please forgive me if this mail is a sign of ignorance. I am not a > regular Pharo user and one of the reasons for this is that I didn't > like most of the source management

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Stef, thanks for answering. Am 10.05.17 um 08:59 schrieb Stephane Ducasse: Hi joachim There is a distinction between managing projects and pharo. Pharo 60 is managed with Monticello. Pharo 70 will not. Okay, I came from the perspective of an application developer and not so much as a contri

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi joachim There is a distinction between managing projects and pharo. Pharo 60 is managed with Monticello. Pharo 70 will not. - git only - no monticello meta info any more - possible? Yes people use that everyday. But Pharo is not manage like that (even if we follow since years a git flow).

[Pharo-users] Intro to git-only Pharo

2017-05-09 Thread Joachim Tuchel
Hi guys, please forgive me if this mail is a sign of ignorance. I am not a regular Pharo user and one of the reasons for this is that I didn't like most of the source management tools around Monticello. Coming from an envy background, it feels like not being ready for prime time. Of course yo