> Am 11.05.2017 um 08:54 schrieb jtuc...@objektfabrik.de: > > Hi Norbert, > > thanks for your explanations. > So it seems liek I should start by using Pharo6 and load Iceberg and just > take a look. > Yes, iceberg has still some issues but is usable and it will evolve quickly. If you are the brave type of guy you can start with pharo6 64bits ;)
Norbert > Joachim > > > > Am 10.05.17 um 10:34 schrieb Norbert Hartl: >> Hi Joachim, >> >> I think your timing is quite good. We had some changes in the last years and >> it is getting better now. >> Before we had only monticello. Monticello is a zip container that contains a >> version number in the filename and prior version pointer inside the >> repository. Regarding dependencies there was nothing that was used widely. >> Then Metacello appeared and solved the problem by providing dependency >> management and versioning of dependencies. Dependency management works good, >> the integrated versioning has issues. Especially when you look at a system >> like git you can see that versioning is solved there. Filetree is needed >> because git and other vcs systems are file based so you need to layout your >> code in files (how quaint!) >> To make a long story short: The best thing to use is git with Metacello >> Baselines. Filetree is used to store code. Versioning you do with git tags >> that can be used in Baselines. Now we have a decent UI (iceberg) that >> supports the most needed workflow items. >> We have a UI for the dependency management as well (versionner) but it sadly >> targets ConfigurationOfs and not BaselineOfs. That needs to be changed. >> >> my 2 cents, >> >> Norbert >> >>> Am 10.05.2017 um 07:56 schrieb Joachim Tuchel <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de >>> <mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>>: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> please forgive me if this mail is a sign of ignorance. I am not a regular >>> Pharo user and one of the reasons for this is that I didn't like most of >>> the source management tools around Monticello. Coming from an envy >>> background, it feels like not being ready for prime time. Of course you >>> guys have been proving you can work with these tools quite well, but still >>> I'd be interested in using Pharo in a pure git-based environment, as it >>> most closely resembles some of the most-beloved features of envy. >>> >>> Over the years there was a lot of work and discussion on filetree, >>> gitfiletree, iceberg, cypress and maybe quite a few other projects that >>> sounded promising and interesting. But I must admit I lost track of what >>> was really done and how far things went in the last years. >>> >>> So are there any pointers to info material that I could look at to see what >>> the current status of source control in Pharo 5 and Pharo 6 is and/or will >>> be soon? >>> >>> I am mostly interested in these topics: >>> >>> git only - no monticello meta info any more - possible? >>> tools like merge/diff, committing from within the image >>> dependencies within my own project as well as dependencies on external code >>> in - possibly multiple - external repositories >>> what is the current "most official" source repository for open source code? >>> best practices for managing complex projects and keeping old versions >>> reproducible at any time >>> tutorial for git newbies in a Pharo context? (Like, how do I start with a >>> new packege - create folder first and do git init, or start in the image >>> and push into repo later? as I said: beginners' stuff) >>> Thanks for pointers and help >>> >>> Joachim >>> >> > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de > <mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > <http://www.objektfabrik.de/> > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > <http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/> > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >
