Stef,
thanks for answering.
Am 10.05.17 um 08:59 schrieb Stephane Ducasse:
Hi joachim
There is a distinction between managing projects and pharo. Pharo 60
is managed with Monticello.
Pharo 70 will not.
Okay, I came from the perspective of an application developer and not so
much as a contributor (which may, of yourse, change for bug reports and
such)...
* git only - no monticello meta info any more - possible?
Yes people use that everyday. But Pharo is not manage like that (even
if we follow since years a git flow).
In Pharo 70 Pharo itself will be manage with iceberg with git as a
back end (notice the difference)
So that will sure be a showcase for it being ready for prime time ;-)
* tools like merge/diff, committing from within the image
You have all the diff merge tools within pharo
including local commits and oushes to the central repo?
* dependencies within my own project as well as dependencies on
external code in - possibly multiple - external repositories
Metacello handles this since year.
There is a chapter on deep into pharo since ages
Okay, thanks! I'll definitely take a look at deep into Pharo.
* what is the current "most official" source repository for open
source code?
SmalltalkHub and SS3,
I'm not surprised by these two, but I am surprised github is not in this
list...
* best practices for managing complex projects and keeping old
versions reproducible at any time
Use Metacello and use versions
or symbolic versions to your own projects if you want to minimize changes.
Okay, thanks.
* tutorial for git newbies in a Pharo context? (Like, how do I start
with a new packege - create folder first and do git init, or start
in the image and push into repo later? as I said: beginners' stuff)
There is one on the the github of iceberg.
IIRC, iceberg will be in the Pharo 6 images by default..? So iceberg is
what people are/will be using.
Again, thanks a lot for the pointers!
Joachim
Stef
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Joachim Tuchel
<jtuc...@objektfabrik.de <mailto:jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>> wrote:
Hi guys,
please forgive me if this mail is a sign of ignorance. I am not a
regular Pharo user and one of the reasons for this is that I
didn't like most of the source management tools around Monticello.
Coming from an envy background, it feels like not being ready for
prime time. Of course you guys have been proving you can work with
these tools quite well, but still I'd be interested in using Pharo
in a pure git-based environment, as it most closely resembles some
of the most-beloved features of envy.
Over the years there was a lot of work and discussion on filetree,
gitfiletree, iceberg, cypress and maybe quite a few other projects
that sounded promising and interesting. But I must admit I lost
track of what was really done and how far things went in the last
years.
So are there any pointers to info material that I could look at to
see what the current status of source control in Pharo 5 and Pharo
6 is and/or will be soon?
I am mostly interested in these topics:
* git only - no monticello meta info any more - possible?
* tools like merge/diff, committing from within the image
* dependencies within my own project as well as dependencies on
external code in - possibly multiple - external repositories
* what is the current "most official" source repository for open
source code?
* best practices for managing complex projects and keeping old
versions reproducible at any time
* tutorial for git newbies in a Pharo context? (Like, how do I
start with a new packege - create folder first and do git
init, or start in the image and push into repo later? as I
said: beginners' stuff)
Thanks for pointers and help
Joachim
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