Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration - client_secret_expires_at

2018-11-30 Thread Travis Spencer
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:45 PM Filip Skokan wrote: > This is my best shot at an implementable policy when it comes to clients > with expired client secrets: *"all operations requiring a secret will be > rejected when an expired one is presented"* > This is a good list and hopefully something t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Richard Backman, Annabelle
.@ietf.org> on behalf of Filip Skokan <mailto:panva...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:11 AM To: George Fletcher <mailto:gffle...@aol.com> Cc: oauth <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps Apologie

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread n-sakimura
this e-mail. 差出人: OAuth (Joseph Heenan の代理) 送信日時: 木曜日, 11月 29, 2018 5:19 午後 宛先: oauth 件名: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps Hi all, It’s worth adding that a per-instance dynamic registration of a native client can still imply a higher

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Joseph Heenan
.org/html/rfc8252#section-8.6> still apply. >> -- >> Annabelle Richard Backman >> AWS Identity >> >> >> From: OAuth <mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org> on >> behalf of Filip Skokan <mailto:panva...@gmail.com> >> Date: Wednesday, November 28

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-29 Thread Christian Mainka
lf of Filip Skokan > > Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:11 AM > To: George Fletcher > Cc: oauth > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps > > Apologies, I missed the issued in "issued a shared secret", just reading > "sha

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-28 Thread Filip Skokan
Apologies, I missed the *issued* in "issued a shared secret", just reading "shared secret" alone is the exact opposite of a per-instance secret. The rest is clear and as you say it brings the benefit of the secret never being sent over the wire (except during the initial registration via TLS). Bes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-28 Thread George Fletcher
It's "confidential" in that the shared secret is unique to that app instance registration (as Dennis described in his response). If an attacker gets my phone and compromises the data stored on my device, they only get the secret for my device. This is no different than a server side client havi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-28 Thread Filip Skokan
Hi George, #2 doesn't seem confidential, it's still a secret shared amongst installations and anyone reverse engineering the apk, extracting the secret, can form the client_secret_jwt client_assertion with it just fine. Best, Filip On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 4:48 PM George Fletcher wrote: > In ad

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-28 Thread George Fletcher
In addition, a few additional patterns are enabled... 1. The native app can generate a public/private key pair and then use private_secret_jwt as the client credential validation method via the client credentials flow (defined in OpenID Connect). 2. Maybe more simply, if the native app is iss

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-27 Thread William Denniss
If the secret is dynamically provisioned then you have a confidential client. Anyone reverse engineering their own installation of the native app would only extract their own client's credentials, as opposed to the shared secret of all installations. Having a confidential client means that requests

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration with Native Apps

2018-11-27 Thread Christian Mainka
Hi, we just stumbled upon this [1] statement: "Except when using a mechanism like Dynamic Client Registration    [RFC7591] to provision per-instance secrets, native apps are    classified as public clients ..." What does this mean for us? Native App + Dynamic Client Registration = Confidential Cl

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration - client_secret_expires_at

2018-11-20 Thread Filip Skokan
Hi all, a recent query about expiring client credentials (secrets) got me thinking about client_secret_expires_at client metadata from RFC 7591 used also in 7592 as well as OpenID Connect Dynamic Client Registration 1.0 *What does expired client secret (in the sense of client_secret_expires_at wi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration in trusted federation

2018-06-12 Thread Dave Tonge
Hi Matt To add to George's point I think software statements solve your issue. For an example of how they are being used by UK OpenBanking please look here: https://bitbucket.org/openid/obuk/src/4630771db004da59992fb201641f5c4ff2c881f1/uk-openbanking-registration-profile.md?at=master&fileviewer=fi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration in trusted federation

2018-06-01 Thread George Fletcher
Hi Matt, I think your use case is fully within the use cases enabled by software-statements. A per client software-statement allows you to tighten the security model (if desired). For example binding the software-statement to the client presenting it in such a way as to have a cryptographic

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration in trusted federation

2018-06-01 Thread Matt Pryor - UKRI STFC
Hi George, That did occur to me. It seemed like a bit of an abuse of the software-statement system, but maybe it is partially intended for this. It still needs us to securely distribute the software statement as well. Would you envisage a single software-statement for all installations, with ea

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration in trusted federation

2018-06-01 Thread George Fletcher
Given that you have a federation, could not the federation issue the signed software-statement to each of the relying parties (existing or old) and the AS will trust the dynamic client registration if and only if the signed software-statement is signed by the federation. This fits more closely

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration in trusted federation

2018-06-01 Thread Matt Pryor - UKRI STFC
Hi, I am working on a use case of OAuth 2.0 in a federation and am after some advice about bootstrapping trust. Each site in the federation has an OAuth 2.0 authorization server and an OAuth 2.0 relying party. The relying party at each site needs to be registered with all the authorization ser

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-12-01 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi, We'll experiment with starting supporting a "resource_uris" extension array property - the name is based on a 'resource' indicator property from the resource indicators draft, with a '_uris' added given that many dynamic registration properties have similar suffixes Cheers, Sergey On 29/1

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-11-29 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi John, All I've been alway thinking that the reason an audience can be an array (as indicated for ex by the JWT spec, etc) is because a client application may need to talk to more than one RS in order to complete a single action for the current user (ex, the client will not talk to either RS

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-11-28 Thread John Bradley
To make something like this work with a loose coupling between the RS and AS the format of the AT would also need to be specified. To this point the WG has avoided standardizing AT. Most AS probably believe they know what RS the token is going to be used at based on scopes. Taking those token

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-11-28 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi Justin Thanks, may be if a value for that field is not set, then, by default, a client can use the access tokens against the arbitrary RS servers, as far as I understand this is what happens by default right now ? Cheers, Sergey On 28/11/16 18:47, Justin Richer wrote: I would consider th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-11-28 Thread Justin Richer
I would consider that a totally reasonable extension. You will need to define what the behavior is if the client doesn’t provide a value for that field: is there a default? Are there no resources available to the client? — Justin > On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Sergey Beryozkin wrote: > > Hi

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic client registration and the audience (resource) indicators

2016-11-28 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi All Our AS allows for the manual client registration with the UI offering an option to assign the audience/resource URIs to a given Client registration with all the associated future access tokens inheriting them. The client will not have to follow the resource indicator registration as r

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration & Key Naming of JWKS

2015-03-05 Thread John Bradley
The kid in the JWT is the most appropriate thing if the iss has reregistered a jwks_uri. If you send a jwks_uri the AS needs to have some trust model to match the "iss" to that jwks_uri that we haven't described for Connect or Oauth at this point. Mostly we have been sticking to jwks that are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration & Key Naming of JWKS

2015-03-05 Thread Justin Richer
If you're using them for the token endpoint, you set your token_endpoint_authorization_method to a method that supports it (which we don't define in OAuth but other protocols and profiles do). Then you'll usually reference them using the 'kid' field defined in JWK, or you might just use the onl

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration & Key Naming of JWKS

2015-03-05 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Justin, Hi all, In context of the draft-ietf-oauth-pop-key-distribution-01 update we just ran into a question regarding key naming. The Dynamic Client Registration Protocol defines these two parameters that allow a client to upload a public key to the authorization server: jwks_uri U

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2015-01-13 Thread John Bradley
We have used the dynamic client registration API for building portals for developers to register clients. I am seeing that across several telco operators at the moment. Yes everyone could have custom web pages but this is at-least a common way to build that sort of thing. This is not just abo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management

2015-01-13 Thread Richer, Justin P.
Hi Hannes, thanks for the review. Comments inline. On Jan 12, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi Justin, Hi all, > > I re-read the latest version of the dynamic client registration > management document and I still have a few issues with the document. > > Let me start with the d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2015-01-13 Thread Richer, Justin P.
>> >>> It also does not make sense to >>> show the developer in the box together with the client since the >>> developer does not execute a protocol exchange with the client >>> registration endpoint. >> >> That's not true, a developer (person or organization) could very easily be >> using the d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2015-01-13 Thread Phil Hunt
in line Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com > On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Richer, Justin P. wrote: > > Hi Hannes, thanks for the review. Comments inline. > > On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Hannes Tschofenig > wrote: > >> Hi Justin, Hi all, >> >> as noted in my sta

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2015-01-13 Thread Richer, Justin P.
Hi Hannes, thanks for the review. Comments inline. On Jan 12, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi Justin, Hi all, > > as noted in my status update I am trying to finalize the pending items. > > Hence, I re-read the draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-21 document since my > review of draft-ie

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management

2015-01-12 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Justin, Hi all, I re-read the latest version of the dynamic client registration management document and I still have a few issues with the document. Let me start with the document structure. When you look at the ToC you will notice that there is something wrong. 2. Client Configuration E

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration

2015-01-12 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Justin, Hi all, as noted in my status update I am trying to finalize the pending items. Hence, I re-read the draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-21 document since my review of draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-management raised some questions about the terminology. If you look at the structure of the ToC then yo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Maciej Machulak
.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html > >>>> > >>>> And the discussion in Toronto, it's clearly experimental. > >>>> > >>>> -- Justin > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Anth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
experimental. >>>> >>>> -- Justin >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Anthony Nadalin >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is "experimental" the correct classification? Maybe "informational&qu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Phil Hunt
>> According to the guidelines here: >>>> >>>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html >>>> >>>> And the discussion in Toronto, it's clearly experimental. >>>> >>>> -- Justin >>>> >>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Richer, Justin P.
2014, at 10:36 AM, Anthony Nadalin >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is "experimental" the correct classification? Maybe "informational" is >>>> more appropriate as both of these were discussed. >>>> >>>> -Or

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread John Bradley
;>> >>> Is "experimental" the correct classification? Maybe "informational" is more >>> appropriate as both of these were discussed. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hanne

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Phil Hunt
f these were discussed. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:50 PM >> To: oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Manage

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps? According to the guidelines here: https://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html And the discussion in Toronto, it's clearly experimental. -- Justin On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:36 A

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Richer, Justin P.
"informational" is more > appropriate as both of these were discussed. > > -Original Message- > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:50 PM > To: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: [OAUTH-WG

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
uth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps? Hi all, in response to the discussions at the last IETF meeting the authors of the "Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol" http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-management

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-11 Thread Thomas Hardjono
org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org> Betreff: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps? +1 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Mike Jones mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com>> wrote: +1 This gets it off the working group’s plate and lets us gather dat

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-10 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
+1 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: John Bradley Datum:11.09.2014 02:22 (GMT+01:00) An: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org Betreff: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps? +1 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Mike Jones wrote

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-10 Thread John Bradley
xperience. > > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:05 PM > To: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next > Steps? > > a) Pub

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-10 Thread Mike Jones
ptember 10, 2014 5:05 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps? a) Publish it as experimental. There was reasonable support for this in both Toronto and London. -- Justin On 9/10/2014 7:50 PM, Hannes Tschofenig

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-10 Thread Justin Richer
a) Publish it as experimental. There was reasonable support for this in both Toronto and London. -- Justin On 9/10/2014 7:50 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, in response to the discussions at the last IETF meeting the authors of the "Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol" http:

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol: Next Steps?

2014-09-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, in response to the discussions at the last IETF meeting the authors of the "Dynamic Client Registration Management Protocol" http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-management-05 have changed the document type to "Experimental". We need to make a decision about the next steps

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Sent to the IESG

2014-09-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, I have just sent the Dynamic Client Registration document to the IESG. The final shepherd write-up for the document can be found here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg/shepherdwriteup/ Ciao Hannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-22 Thread Justin Richer
;>>>  -- Justin >>>>   >>>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:38 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> I put it back because otherwise, we wouldn't be meeting one of the >>>>> requirements of the RFC 6749.  If you look

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-22 Thread torsten
49. If you look at the client registration section > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-2 [1], you'll see that registering > redirect_uri values is required, as is registering the client type. Without > this, there wasn't a way to register the client type. > &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread John Bradley
f the OpenID document. The copying all went in the other >> direction. >> >> If portions of the UMA draft remained from -00 in the current drafts, >> I'd be fine with the UMA attribution, but in practice they don't. The >> UMA content was replaced with the OpenID Connect content. (I believ

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
: Mike Jones; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation It's quite true that the OIDC draft predates -00 of the IETF draft, and I'm sorry if that was unclear from what I said as I was

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
;d be fine with the UMA attribution, but in practice they don't. The > > UMA content was replaced with the OpenID Connect content. (I believe > > that eventually UMA decided to drop their old draft and move to > > registration mechanisms that were compatible with Connect as well,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Jones
ecification in the acknowledgement? -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mit.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 AM To: Mike Jones; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
gistration can be compatible with one another. -- Mike *From:*OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:15 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Hannes Tschofenig *Cc:* Maciej Machulak; oa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Jones
g their previous registration data formats.) -- Mike -Original Message- From: Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mit.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:53 AM To: Hannes Tschofenig; Mike Jones; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
Of *Mike Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:15 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Hannes Tschofenig *Cc:* Maciej Machulak; oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation Thinking about this some more, there is one IPR issue that we need to address before publication.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
gt; Portions of this specification are derived from the OpenID Connect > >>> Dynamic Registration [OpenID.Registration] specification. This was > done > >>> so that implementations of this specification and OpenID Connect > Dynamic > >>> Registration can be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
tions of this specification and OpenID Connect Dynamic >>> Registration can be compatible with one another. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
nect Dynamic Registration can be compatible with one another. -- Mike *From:*OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 7:15 PM *To:* Phil Hunt; Hannes Tschofenig *Cc:* Maciej Machulak; oauth@ietf.org *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Regist

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
il Hunt; Hannes Tschofenig > *Cc:* Maciej Machulak; oauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation > > > > Thinking about this some more, there is one IPR issue that we need to > address before publication. This specification is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
Hi, My apologies for a late reply. Same here, no IPR disclosures to make regarding these documents. Kind regards, Maciej On 8 July 2014 19:06, Mike Jones wrote: > I likewise do not hold any IPR on these specs. > -- > From: Phil Hunt > Sent: ‎7/‎8/‎2014 9:11 AM

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-15 Thread Mike Jones
: Phil Hunt; Hannes Tschofenig Cc: Maciej Machulak; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation Thinking about this some more, there is one IPR issue that we need to address before publication. This specification is a derivative work from the OpenID Connect

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Nat Sakimura
4:25 AM > To: John Bradley; Mike Jones > Cc: Nat Sakimura; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri > > Here is the text from the OpenID Connect spec (as provided by Nat): > > > policy_uri > > OPTIONAL. URL that the Relying Part

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread John Bradley
-Original Message- >> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:57 AM >> To: Mike Jones; Brian Campbell; John Bradley >> Cc: oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri >&g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
; Brian Campbell; John Bradley > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri > > That would then be a reference to an individual draft ;-) > > On 07/14/2014 07:55 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >> One example is when used as a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Jones
om: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:57 AM To: Mike Jones; Brian Campbell; John Bradley Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri That would then be a reference to an individual draft ;-) On 07/14/2014 07:5

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
That would then be a reference to an individual draft ;-) On 07/14/2014 07:55 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > One example is when used as a signed request to the authorization server, as > is done in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sakimura-oauth-requrl-05. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Jones
, 2014 10:45 AM To: Mike Jones; Brian Campbell; John Bradley Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri Hi Mike, sticking with working group document is fine. However, the first example does not make sense to me. [maybe my brain is a bit empty at the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Sent: > Monday, July 14, 2014 2:42 AM To: Brian Campbell; John Bradley Cc: > oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: > jwks / jwks_uri > > What about the following text: > > jwks_uri > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-18&

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Jones
-- Mike >> >> *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Nat >> Sakimura >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:26 AM >> *To:* Hannes Tschofenig >> *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Mike Jones
Section 4.2 of [I-D.ietf-oauth-assertions]." -- Mike -Original Message- From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:42 AM To: Brian Campbell; John Bradley Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: Summary

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Here is a short summary of the recent conversations regarding the dynamic client registration draft. In a nutshell, we will have to put the document on the agenda for the meeting. Items discussed on the list: * IPR confirmation Include a statement indicating that this specification is a derivat

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
t; *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Nat Sakimura >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:26 AM >> *To:* Hannes Tschofenig >> *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-14 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
wrote: >> >>> Was there specific language that had been discussed to be added for this? >>> If not, could someone please create some? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- Mike >>> >>> -Original M

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-09 Thread John Bradley
lients using redirect-based >>> grant types MUST implement support for this metadata value and clients that >>> use redirect-based grant types MUST use this parameter. >>> >>> -- Mike >>> &

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Jones
Using "redirection URIs" is fine with me. From: Richer, Justin P. [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:57 PM To: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements Well, I think it's conf

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
using the “redirect_uris” parameter. -- Mike From: Richer, Justin P. [mailto:jric...@mitre.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:41 PM To: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org> list Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comme

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
8:41 PM To: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements Also, I just noticed that paragraph has a typo: "redirect_uri" should be "redirect_uris". -- Justin On Jul 8, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Justin Richer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
y, July 08, 2014 8:39 PM To: Mike Jones Cc: oauth@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements I can see where you're going with it. Requiring clients to use it implies that servers need to enforce it. In the security considerati

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Phil Hunt
ant types MUST use this parameter. >> >> -- Mike >> >> >> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P. >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:44 PM >> To: oauth@ietf.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
this metadata value and clients that use redirect-based grant types MUST use this parameter. -- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P. Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:44 PM To: oauth@ietf.or

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P. Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:44 PM To: oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org> list Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements In draft -18, we clarified the optionality of the client metadata parameters in § 2 with new te

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
this parameter. -- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richer, Justin P. Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:44 PM To: oauth@ietf.org list Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata require

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-08 Thread John Bradley
Yes Nat and I mentioned the need for attribution to Hannes. Having that also helps clarify the relationship between the specs for readers. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > > Thinking about this some more, there is one IPR issue that we need to address >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread John Bradley
Yes that is reasonable. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:44 PM, "Richer, Justin P." wrote: > > In draft -18, we clarified the optionality of the client metadata parameters > in § 2 with new text, including the sentences: > > The implementation and use of all client metadata fields

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
Thinking about this some more, there is one IPR issue that we need to address before publication. This specification is a derivative work from the OpenID Connect Dynamic Registration specification http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-registration-1_0.html. Large portions of the text were co

[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: comment on metadata requirements

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
In draft -18, we clarified the optionality of the client metadata parameters in § 2 with new text, including the sentences: The implementation and use of all client metadata fields is OPTIONAL, other than "redirect_uris". redirect_uris (...) Authorization servers MUST implement support for th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
th [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:37 PM To: Phil Hunt Cc: oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type It was taken out and then put back in as it is a common parameter used

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Nat Sakimura
stering the client > type. Without this, there wasn’t a way to register the client type. > > > > -- Mike > > > > -Original Message- > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org ] On > Behalf Of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Richer, Justin P.
uri values is required, as is registering the client type. Without this, there wasn’t a way to register the client type. -- Mike -Original Message- From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:37 PM To: Phil Hunt Cc: oauth@

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Phil Hunt
oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 12:37 PM > To: Phil Hunt > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type > > It was taken out and then put back in as it is a common parameter used by a &

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type It was taken out and then put back in as it is a common parameter used by a number of AS. We have it in Connect, the best reason for keeping it is to stop people from coming up with a new parameter for the sam

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-08 Thread Brian Campbell
-- Mike >> >> -Original Message- >> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:09 AM >> To: oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread John Bradley
It was taken out and then put back in as it is a common parameter used by a number of AS. We have it in Connect, the best reason for keeping it is to stop people from coming up with a new parameter for the same thing because they haven't looked at the Connect version. John B. On Jul 8, 2014, a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-08 Thread John Bradley
ge- > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:09 AM > To: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri > > Hi all, > > in my earlier review I had noted that the semantic of the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: application_type

2014-07-08 Thread Phil Hunt
Does this need to be in the spec? I believe we’ve already said that others can add attributes as they need. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On Jul 8, 2014, at 11:56 AM, John Bradley wrote: > The application_type is collected as part of current registration by

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri

2014-07-08 Thread John Bradley
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:26 AM > To: Hannes Tschofenig > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: policy_uri > > I am not against using the term "Privacy Policy" in the description. > Depending on the jurisdiction and languag

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri

2014-07-08 Thread Mike Jones
Tschofenig Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:09 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: jwks / jwks_uri Hi all, in my earlier review I had noted that the semantic of the fields is underspecified, i.e., it is not clear what these fields are used for. In private conversations

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