Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Erik van Westen via NANOG
There are major problems with power in The Netherlands, and it is really not easy if possible at all to increase the amount of electricity if that was not contracted before. Pricing looks quite normal for an overloaded grid and datacenter. Every datacenter has 3 phase power available, that real

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG
.278€ per kWh is sort of a list price what they have to pay to the utility. On top of that they run 20kW cooling equipment and 20kW UPS. I have seen even higher prices in Frankfurt. Am 11.12.24 um 19:45 schrieb harbor235: Hi all, Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pa

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG
If I remember my company's latest Frankfurt contract, that was a few 100€ for the racks but 10s of thousands € yearly for the energy (~7kw per rack) To me, today, datacenter colo business is just reselling energy. Am 12.12.24 um 10:55 schrieb Elmar K. Bins: nanog@nanog.org (Thomas Mieslinger vi

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Evan Moyer
I've run into the same thing with Lumen DIA's before. Multiple muni's out, port ops and everyone just assumed everyone else called. Sometimes all it takes a bit of coordinating. Glad you got someone to check it out. On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 8:54 PM John Neiberger wrote: > Yep. I finally found som

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Wouldn't there have to be an ILEC responsible for lifeline? I'm in Ohio, not Colorado, so that may be different entirely. On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, 11:28 AM John Neiberger wrote: > I've been gathering reports from people there. Two of the homes are > family members and they know of other homes and

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Elmar K. Bins
nanog@nanog.org (Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG) wrote: > .278€ per kWh is sort of a list price what they have to pay to the utility. > On top of that they run 20kW cooling equipment and 20kW UPS. > I have seen even higher prices in Frankfurt. Yeah, I believe Mike tries to compare with US (subsidize

Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread harbor235
Hi Riley, I am not sure what you mean here, are you saying to make money off charging 0.278kWh the cost from the utility provider would need to be 0.15kWh? Are you saying the power rate is low? Mike On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 4:25 PM Riley O via NANOG wrote: > Where are you seeing that kind of p

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Luke Guillory via NANOG
The state PSC would be my vote, they reach out asap on complaints from what I’ve seen locally here in LA. From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Date: Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 9:58 AM To: John Neiberger Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue *E

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I understand it is frustrating. Analog phones can not be detected unless they're off hook so I don't see how a provider can detect between sitting idle or the cables cut. How do you know for certain it is an outage in the area and not just the customer(s) you've talked to? There is a requirement

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Evan Moyer
Have you tried filing a complaint with your state's public utility commission? POTS service is usually regulated by them. Just a thought On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 7:52 PM John Neiberger wrote: > I apologize for using NANOG for this, but I need to get some traction > on a telephone outage affecting

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Neiberger
I've been gathering reports from people there. Two of the homes are family members and they know of other homes and businesses in the area who have been down for days, as well. I'm trying to gather more information. I want to compile a list of names and phone numbers so that I can include that in a

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to see the lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is expected until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:54 PM John Neiberger wrote: > Yep. I finally found some conta

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
+1 to contacting your local public service commission. _No_ provider wants them to pass along a complaint. When that happens, things get fixed quickly. -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 10:36am To: "John Neiberger" Cc: "NANOG list" Subject: R

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Neiberger
Understandable for a single customer. It sounds like this a huge part of the town that has no phones, including the rural folks who live outside of cell coverage, many of whom are elderly. I just found out that they had indeed called CL to complain days ago and CL told them they couldn't get out th

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure which is more impactful, an FCC complaint or a state PUC complaint. Might not hurt to do both. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "John Neiberger" To: "Josh Luthman" Cc

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread John Levine
It appears that Josh Luthman said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to see the >lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is expected >until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. You might think that if nobody at al

Re: Need Centurylink contact for serious ongoing issue

2024-12-12 Thread Justin Krejci
>> If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to >> see the >> lack of customers off hook. The electrical circuit being open is > >> expected >> until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone. > > You might think that if nobody at all makes any calls for an hour or

DisneyPlus CroudFront

2024-12-12 Thread Mario Eirea via NANOG
Greetings everyone, Anyone from Disney+ on here that can help me with a blocked IP? Going through the traditional channels is not getting anywhere. Thanks, ME