There are major problems with power in The Netherlands, and it is really
not easy if possible at all to increase the amount of electricity if
that was not contracted before. Pricing looks quite normal for an
overloaded grid and datacenter. Every datacenter has 3 phase power
available, that really is common in The Netherlands. There is a stop for
companies (and even hospitals and schools) to extend the power
requirements, the waiting list is long. It is mainly the national grid
that is at peak capacity and is awaiting extension.
Regards,
Erik (living in The Netherlands but not using a datacenter anymore)
On 11-12-2024 23:50, Riley O via NANOG wrote:
Yea, 0.15-30EUR is definitely higher than the US average, much higher than what
we pay.
Out here, colo spaces tend to charge ~1.5-2x the utility rate in the quote.
Mainly to factor in cooling, depending on their PUE.
Based on cost of power in the EU, the monthly seems fine, but the install cost
seems high. It seems like that facility doesn't have the power available, or
doesn't have 3 phase and wants you to foot the cost.
I would shop, there's probably a space that has the power and delivery ready
and available.
- Riley
On Wednesday, December 11th, 2024 at 3:04 PM, Jeremy <li...@freeheberg.com>
wrote:
The average energy price in Europe is actually 0.15-0.30€ / Kwh.
Please don't forget that this price is very high because USA has
destroyed our gaz pipelane NORD-Stream-2 to Russia in 2022.
Before that, the price of energy was aroung 0.06-0.09€/Kwh.
Thanks USA.
Have a good day,
Jérémy
Le 11/12/2024 à 22:51, Aaron Wendel a écrit :
I don't understand how people stay in business paying $0.15/kWh.
That's crazy.
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Cc "Tony Wicks" t...@wicks.co.nz; "NANOG list" nanog@nanog.org
Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM
Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU
Where are you seeing that kind of pricing? The utility cost would
have to be sub $0.15/kWh to even pay the bill with 20kW, ignoring any
cooling.
Thanks,
Riley C. O'Connor
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On Wednesday, December 11th, 2024 at 12:40 PM, Aaron Wendel
aa...@wholesaleinternet.net wrote:
Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total
I would say so.
Aaron
------ Original Message ------
From "Tony Wicks" t...@wicks.co.nz
To "'Aaron Wendel'" aa...@wholesaleinternet.net
Cc "'harbor235'" harbor...@gmail.com; "'NANOG list'" nanog@nanog.org
Date 12/11/2024 1:08:37 PM
Subject RE: COLO space in EU
Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the
business and is pricing it as such
*From:*NANOG nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co...@nanog.org *On Behalf
Of *Aaron Wendel
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 8:05 am
To: harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com; NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: COLO space in EU
So they have a charge just to have the capacity present of 7000
euros/month and then .278 euros per KWh on top of that?
I wish I could get away with charging that.
Aaron
------ Original Message ------
From "harbor235" harbor...@gmail.com
To "NANOG list" nanog@nanog.org
Date 12/11/2024 12:45:52 PM
Subject COLO space in EU
Hi all,
Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to
pay for phase3 power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap
off? Total costs for adding 3 phase plus testing etc .....
136.000 Euros for NRCs and the following MRC:
The Service Fee for a 20kW deployment would be €350/kW/month,
so €7,000 per month in total based on a 36 month term and 3%
annual indexation
·Electricity consumption will be measured and invoiced monthly
in arrears at €0.278 per kWh (2024 pricing)
Mike
