Wouldn't there have to be an ILEC responsible for lifeline?  I'm in Ohio,
not Colorado, so that may be different entirely.

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, 11:28 AM John Neiberger <jneiber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been gathering reports from people there. Two of the homes are
> family members and they know of other homes and businesses in the area
> who have been down for days, as well. I'm trying to gather more
> information. I want to compile a list of names and phone numbers so
> that I can include that in an FCC complaint. I've already reported
> this to the Colorado PUC, but they said that landlines were
> deregulated in 2014 so they have no authority in the situation like
> they used to. They are able to contact Lumen, though, so that should
> help prioritize the repair.
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:08 AM Josh Luthman
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > I understand it is frustrating.  Analog phones can not be detected
> unless they're off hook so I don't see how a provider can detect between
> sitting idle or the cables cut.
> >
> > How do you know for certain it is an outage in the area and not just the
> customer(s) you've talked to?
> >
> > There is a requirement for outages required by the FCC.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 10:53 AM John Neiberger <jneiber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Understandable for a single customer. It sounds like this a huge part
> >> of the town that has no phones, including the rural folks who live
> >> outside of cell coverage, many of whom are elderly. I just found out
> >> that they had indeed called CL to complain days ago and CL told them
> >> they couldn't get out there to look at it until the 20th. These are
> >> rural people with no backup to their landline who have been without
> >> phone for days already and CL expects them to go another week or two?
> >> Unbelievable. Also, when I called CL on their behalf, I was told they
> >> had no record of an outage in the area.
> >>
> >> Thankfully, I was able to reach someone at Lumen who was able to get
> >> someone involved. There is supposed to be a tech there right now, but
> >> he no-showed. I think an FCC complaint is in order.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 8:36 AM Josh Luthman
> >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If it's landline copper phone, it's kind of hard for a provider to
> see the lack of customers off hook.  The electrical circuit being open is
> expected until the customer picks up the load/off hooks the phone.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:54 PM John Neiberger <jneiber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yep. I finally found some contacts at Lumen who ran it up the chain.
> I
> >> >> also did report it to the Colorado PUC. I'm still confused about how
> >> >> so many homes and businesses could be without service and Centurylink
> >> >> wouldn't know about it. It's a small town, and I'm starting to think
> >> >> everyone thought that the phone company must know about it because
> >> >> there so many affected, so no one bothered to call them. I don't
> know.
> >> >> None of it makes any sense. But at least we have someone scheduled to
> >> >> drive over there tomorrow and check it out.
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 9:08 PM Evan Moyer <evmo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have you tried filing a complaint with your state's public utility
> commission? POTS service is usually regulated by them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just a thought
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 7:52 PM John Neiberger <jneiber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I apologize for using NANOG for this, but I need to get some
> traction
> >> >> >> on a telephone outage affecting a large number of homes in a small
> >> >> >> town that Centurylink seems to be unaware of. The affected
> customers
> >> >> >> have had no phone service for days and none of them know what's
> going
> >> >> >> on. Centurylink customer service says there are no outages in the
> area
> >> >> >> and just want to dispatch a tech to an individual home rather than
> >> >> >> escalate this as the emergency that it is. This is a rural area
> with
> >> >> >> poor cell service, so many of these customers have no
> alternative. I'm
> >> >> >> particularly concerned that many of the affected customers would
> be
> >> >> >> unable to reach emergency services, and haven't been able to for
> 3-4
> >> >> >> days already.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If someone has a contact at Centurylink that can escalate this,
> please
> >> >> >> contact me off-list.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Many thanks!
> >> >> >> John Neiberger
>

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