RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
: lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:47 PM To: George Bonser Cc: Leigh Porter; nanog list Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton hi George, IGMPv3 snooping has been supported since EOS 4.7. Its enabled by default in EOS 4.8.x. In terms of specifics

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread lincoln dale
l build version: 4.6.4-434606.EOS464 > > ** ** > > Sure, we can discuss it. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:13 PM > *To:* George Bonser > *Cc:* Leigh Porter; nanog list > *Subject:* Re

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
.7308.752f Software image version: 4.6.4 Architecture: i386 Internal build version: 4.6.4-434606.EOS464 Sure, we can discuss it. From: lincoln dale [mailto:l...@interlink.com.au] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:13 PM To: George Bonser Cc: Leigh Porter; nanog list Subject: Re: 10G

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread lincoln dale
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM, George Bonser wrote: > It's pretty good gear. The only problem I've had with it is the > limitation of IGMP not working on mLAG VLANs. > IGMP should work just fine with MLAG. IGMP state is sync'd between the MLAG pair. Happy to talk about this more off-list if

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Elliot Finley
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: > Based on this thread I has Arista in today for a show'n'tell and it is pretty > impressive both in terms of features (features that you actually use) and > pricing. > > So a couple of evals on the way... Let us know how the eval goes if you

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread George Bonser
> > Based on this thread I has Arista in today for a show'n'tell and it is > pretty impressive both in terms of features (features that you actually > use) and pricing. > > So a couple of evals on the way... > > -- > Leigh It's pretty good gear. The only problem I've had with it is the limitat

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Adrian Minta
Cisco has finally release a new 10G switch, Catalyst 4500-X: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps12332/index.html Does anyone know the price range, or the FCS date for this ?

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-02-09 Thread Leigh Porter
> -Original Message- > From: Brent Jones [mailto:br...@brentrjones.com] > Sent: 27 January 2012 06:33 > To: Rodrick Brown > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rodrick Brown > wrote: > > > Not to

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-30 Thread Rodrick Brown
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Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-30 Thread Piotr Salwerowicz
W dniu 2012-01-27 09:32, Erik Bais pisze: We have a full purple network, so my answer for this would be Extreme Networks. We have a few Black Diamond 8800. There is big problem with microburst, congestion. There is only 4MB buffers per slot allocated dynamicly. Extreme support said: make LAG o

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-29 Thread Joe Provo
t;> error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then > >> delete the message from your computer. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Tim Vollebregt [mailto:t...@interworx.nl] > >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:3

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-29 Thread Alvaro Pereira
ressee. If you have received this message in >> error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then >> delete the message from your computer. >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Tim Vollebregt [mailto:t...@interworx.nl] >>

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Fabien Delmotte > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:20 AM > To: Grant Ridder > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton > > I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for > DataCenter environm

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread James McMurry
We have used both Arista and the LG-Ericsson switches, both have done very well, and both have a great $/value proposition. We use the Solarflare boards in an upcoming product ourselves, and they have been quite dependable, and again the performance is great. Just our 2 cents jim off

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Grant Ridder
I agree with the previous statement. The previous company i worked for had a pair of x450's with the full bgp internet routing table and they worked just fine. -Grant On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Erik Bais wrote: > Hi Fabien, > > I strongly have to disagree with you. We run a full bgp imp

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Erik Bais
Hi Fabien, I strongly have to disagree with you. We run a full bgp implementation on Extreme in our network and are very pleased with it and the support that we get from Extreme. One of our x480's we run has about 1.4 milj learned routes and another has around 200 bgp peers on the AMS-iX... So

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Bao Nguyen
; > From: James Braunegg [james.braun...@micron21.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:27 PM > > To: Eddie Parra; Rodrick Brown > > Cc: nanog list > > Subject: RE: 10G switchrecommendaton > > > > Arista sounds interesting, although never knew of t

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, We like the purple too. But their licensing scheme is starting to get in our way. We're going to choose Brocade for a our new 10G Metro rings. ( Watch out for Brocade 10G licensing per set of ports... ) PS: OP you never told us for which application. Good luck.

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
shortdudey...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:54 AM > To: Erik Bais > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton > > I have experience with the Extreme's Alpine, Blackdiamond, x250, and x450 and > i discovered that the command line is fairl

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
You can use BGP only for the default route no more :) forget a full view Le 27 janv. 2012 à 15:34, Fabien Delmotte a écrit : > Only for a full table BGP, in fact it is not able to learn a full BGP table. > The X480 could do it, but it is very slow and they miss some features > > Fabien > > >

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
Only for a full table BGP, in fact it is not able to learn a full BGP table. The X480 could do it, but it is very slow and they miss some features Fabien Le 27 janv. 2012 à 11:25, Leigh Porter a écrit : > > On 27 Jan 2012, at 10:21, "Fabien Delmotte" wrote: > >> I worked for Extreme, and I

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Drew Weaver
...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:54 AM To: Erik Bais Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton I have experience with the Extreme's Alpine, Blackdiamond, x250, and x450 and i discovered that the command line is fairly different than Cisco, HP, or Dell. However, since the

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Tim Vollebregt
: 10G switchrecommendaton I would not recommend EX4500 as an 10G aggregator switch, it has really small buffers. EX3300 as TOR EX82** as 10G aggregator -Tim On 26-01-12 22:13, Raul Rodriguez wrote: Juniper EX4500. -RR On 1/26/12, Deric Kwok wrote: Hi all I would like to have 10G

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread James Braunegg
computer. -Original Message- From: Tim Vollebregt [mailto:t...@interworx.nl] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:35 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton I would not recommend EX4500 as an 10G aggregator switch, it has really small buffers. EX3300 as TOR EX82** as 10G

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Leigh Porter
On 27 Jan 2012, at 10:21, "Fabien Delmotte" wrote: > I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for > DataCenter environment. The box is really good. > In fact if you use the box at a layer 2 it is perfect, BUT DON'T use their > BGP code, they never understood what is BG

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Fabien Delmotte
I worked for Extreme, and I deployed a lot of X650 (24 10G ports) for DataCenter environment. The box is really good. In fact if you use the box at a layer 2 it is perfect, BUT DON'T use their BGP code, they never understood what is BGP :) Regards Fabien Le 27 janv. 2012 à 09:54, Grant Ridder

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Tim Vollebregt
I would not recommend EX4500 as an 10G aggregator switch, it has really small buffers. EX3300 as TOR EX82** as 10G aggregator -Tim On 26-01-12 22:13, Raul Rodriguez wrote: Juniper EX4500. -RR On 1/26/12, Deric Kwok wrote: Hi all I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton Ipref software

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Grant Ridder
I have experience with the Extreme's Alpine, Blackdiamond, x250, and x450 and i discovered that the command line is fairly different than Cisco, HP, or Dell. However, since they are a relatively small company with a small but strong customer base, their support is fairly good. I can't speak for 1

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-27 Thread Erik Bais
We have a full purple network, so my answer for this would be Extreme Networks. Check out the Lipis report on the X670 / x670v 48 port 10G 1U switches. vs other vendor equipment : http://www.extremenetworks.com/libraries/products/ExtremeX670V_Lippis%20Report_Fall.pdf Regards, Erik Bais Ver

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Brent Jones
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > Not to mention Arista's cli runs a busybox Linux inside! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Last I checked, Arista used Fedora Linux, with x86 dual-core CPUs and 4GB RAM. Their CLI was written in Python or Perl as well, and they encourage hacking

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Rodrick Brown
; Rodrick Brown > Cc: nanog list > Subject: RE: 10G switchrecommendaton > > Arista sounds interesting, although never knew of them ! > > How do they compare price wise / feature wise to Brocade / Juniper / Force10 ? > > That being said my preference is the S4810 - Force10

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Eddie Parra > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:23 PM > To: Rodrick Brown > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton > > +1 Arista > > -Eddie Good gear, I have some deployed with good results. I have some Broc

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Tom Sands
. From: James Braunegg [james.braun...@micron21.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:27 PM To: Eddie Parra; Rodrick Brown Cc: nanog list Subject: RE: 10G switchrecommendaton Arista sounds interesting, although never knew of them ! How do they compare price wise / feature wise to

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Holmes,David A
Brown Cc: nanog list Subject: RE: 10G switchrecommendaton Arista sounds interesting, although never knew of them ! How do they compare price wise / feature wise to Brocade / Juniper / Force10 ? That being said my preference is the S4810 - Force10 Kindest Regards James Braunegg W: 1300 769 972

RE: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread James Braunegg
list Subject: Re: 10G switchrecommendaton +1 Arista -Eddie On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > http://www.aristanetworks.com/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 26, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Deric Kwok wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I would like t

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Randy Bush
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Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Eddie Parra
+1 Arista -Eddie On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > http://www.aristanetworks.com/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 26, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Deric Kwok wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton >> Ipref software can test around 9.2G but we can

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Leigh Porter
Let's see how many vendors you get listed! I would go for Brocade. -- Leigh Porter On 26 Jan 2012, at 20:24, "Deric Kwok" wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton > Ipref software can test around 9.2G but we can have congestion over 6G > in single port! > > Thank

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Raul Rodriguez
Juniper EX4500. -RR On 1/26/12, Deric Kwok wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton > Ipref software can test around 9.2G but we can have congestion over 6G > in single port! > > Thank you > >

Re: 10G switchrecommendaton

2012-01-26 Thread Rodrick Brown
http://www.aristanetworks.com/ Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Deric Kwok wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to have 10G switchrecommendaton > Ipref software can test around 9.2G but we can have congestion over 6G > in single port! > > Thank you >