Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread harbor235
t; Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total I > would say so. > > Aaron > > > > -- Original Message -- > From "Tony Wicks" > To "'Aaron Wendel'" > Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG
If I remember my company's latest Frankfurt contract, that was a few 100€ for the racks but 10s of thousands € yearly for the energy (~7kw per rack) To me, today, datacenter colo business is just reselling energy. Am 12.12.24 um 10:55 schrieb Elmar K. Bins: nanog@nanog.org (Thomas Mieslinger vi

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Elmar K. Bins
nanog@nanog.org (Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG) wrote: > .278€ per kWh is sort of a list price what they have to pay to the utility. > On top of that they run 20kW cooling equipment and 20kW UPS. > I have seen even higher prices in Frankfurt. Yeah, I believe Mike tries to compare with US (subsidize

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Thomas Mieslinger via NANOG
.278€ per kWh is sort of a list price what they have to pay to the utility. On top of that they run 20kW cooling equipment and 20kW UPS. I have seen even higher prices in Frankfurt. Am 11.12.24 um 19:45 schrieb harbor235: Hi all, Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pa

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-12 Thread Erik van Westen via NANOG
m32+na...@cubit.sh To "Aaron Wendel" aa...@wholesaleinternet.net Cc "Tony Wicks" t...@wicks.co.nz; "NANOG list" nanog@nanog.org Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU Where are you seeing that kind of pricing? The utility cost would have to be sub $0.15/kWh t

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Riley O via NANOG
sage -- > > From "Riley O" m32+na...@cubit.sh > > To "Aaron Wendel" aa...@wholesaleinternet.net > > Cc "Tony Wicks" t...@wicks.co.nz; "NANOG list" nanog@nanog.org > > Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM > > Subject Re: Re[2]: C

Re[4]: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Aaron Wendel
I don't understand how people stay in business paying $0.15/kWh. That's crazy. -- Original Message -- From "Riley O" To "Aaron Wendel" Cc "Tony Wicks" ; "NANOG list" Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in

Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Riley O via NANOG
To "'Aaron Wendel'" > Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'NANOG list'" > Date 12/11/2024 1:08:37 PM > Subject RE: COLO space in EU > > > > Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the business >

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread nanog
Is there a reason why AMS (presumably the IXs)? You may find other NL DCs cheaper but still close enough to AMS for your needs. For example, in Rotterdam there has been more investment in the port's industrial grid infra, which may get you a cheaper rate for power. In any case, the rate you hav

Re[2]: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Aaron Wendel
Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total I would say so. Aaron -- Original Message -- From "Tony Wicks" To "'Aaron Wendel'" Cc "'harbor235'" ; "'NANOG list'" Date 12/11/2024 1:0

RE: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Tony Wicks
Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the business and is pricing it as such From: NANOG On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 8:05 am To: harbor235 ; NANOG list Subject: Re: COLO space in EU So they have a charge just to have the capacity

Re: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Aaron Wendel
So they have a charge just to have the capacity present of 7000 euros/month and then .278 euros per KWh on top of that? I wish I could get away with charging that. Aaron -- Original Message -- From "harbor235" To "NANOG list" Date 12/11/2024 12:45:52 PM Subj

RE: COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread Tony Wicks
20kW is not an insignificant power requirement, I’m not surprised your requirement is pricy. From: NANOG On Behalf Of harbor235 Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 7:46 am To: NANOG list Subject: COLO space in EU Hi all, Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have

COLO space in EU

2024-12-11 Thread harbor235
Hi all, Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to pay for phase3 power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap off? Total costs for adding 3 phase plus testing etc . 136.000 Euros for NRCs and the following MRC: The Service Fee for a 20kW deployment would be €350/kW/month