What technologies are predominately in use today to transport layer 2 circuits?
MPLS\VPLS used to be all the rage.
eVPN\VXLAN seems to be popular in the datacenter space.
Carrier Ethernet?
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Yes, and that AT&T already said they were pulling their "fixed wireless"
service out of New York State for that very reason.
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Yes, and that AT&T already said they were pulling their "fixed wireless"
service out of New York State for that very reason.
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Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and businesses
pull out.
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From: "Robert DeVita"
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As an ISP, we're interested. Just tough to get developers to respond to us.
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From: "Sean Donelan"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, January
(CST)
Subject: Re: New home builders without wires
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Mike Hammett wrote:
> "But even the rich can't fix broadband access beyond their property line."
>
> It depends on how rich. ;-)
The limitations of the FCC Broadband map, if you are in the Top
(CST)
Subject: Re: New home builders without wires
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Mike Hammett wrote:
> "But even the rich can't fix broadband access beyond their property line."
>
> It depends on how rich. ;-)
The limitations of the FCC Broadband map, if you are in the Top
(CST)
Subject: Re: New home builders without wires
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Mike Hammett wrote:
> "But even the rich can't fix broadband access beyond their property line."
>
> It depends on how rich. ;-)
The limitations of the FCC Broadband map, if you are in the Top
" The builder/owner is responsible for construction between the ROW/property
line and the building."
and to the ISP, that's the most expensive part of the equation. It should would
be nice to not be financially responsible for that.
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" But even the rich can't fix broadband access beyond their property line."
It depends on how rich. ;-)
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are much harder in a PtMP environment, especially with cross connect
costs.
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away. You can only
fit so many SLAed multi-gig services on a 10 gig port. This becomes a big deal
when cross connects are as expensive as they are
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ore a case of the technology hasn't been
deployed widely, so it'll only be seen at a limited number of locations? I'm
assuming it's more of the latter as the bigger hardware I've been looking at
touts those features and port sizes, but maybe there's some other un
, so now
that makes sense. I had to look up some of the acronyms because the document
didn't define them within itself.
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To:
or is the work done on the x86 box
mentioned in the larger installations? If each box is doing it on its own, are
there route reflectors somewhere making all of the decisions?
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ere are caveats that need to be explored.
"makes your head hurt how much overcomplication"
Aren't there memes about Silicon Valley re-inventing things we already have in
a more complicated and cumbersome way?
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u're going to scale. It's more difficult to plan
what sized solution and no matter what you do, you'll probably pick the wrong
one.
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How much capacity and how much network do you have between router 1 and router
2?
Are the routers between DFZ capable?
Do the links have the ability to carry the full load?
How many routers between router 1 and router 2?
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dvantages that path had.
Failure domain stuff is part of what I'm trying to learn more about, which goes
back to more about the fundamentals of how the fabric works.
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don't know that they
actually have pushed the upper bounds of what's possible in the real world.
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Se
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From: "Yan Filyurin"
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Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:52:27 PM
Subject:
andful of boxes.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Yan Filyurin"
Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 20
Yeah, UfiSpace is where I had first seen it, but then I saw it elsewhere.
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t are your thoughts on
that direction?
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How widespread is the use of and availability of MACSEC?
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Thankfully, the market is slowly realizing that you wire wired devices for
reliability and performance.
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From: Saku Ytti
To: Mark Tinka
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Is it broken for anyone else?
https://asrank.caida.org/asns
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I'm not sure which is more impactful, an FCC complaint or a state PUC
complaint. Might not hurt to do both. :-)
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True, I didn't even think of all of the upstreams of those networks being
responsible for accepting bad routes.
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*shrugs* Incorrectly assigning the blame doesn't really help anyone.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
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Not by the box, but by the operator of the box.
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- Original Message -
From: "Niels Bakker"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 2:27:23 P
Eh, different people have different opinions.
I think most of the hatred towards them is unwarranted,
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- Original Message -
From: "Rich Compton"
To: &qu
IIRC, the widespread outages are the result of exporting things that shouldn't
be exported.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jason Bothe via NANOG"
T
I don't know that you need to spread BGP best path analysis onto a GPU, but
conducting the testing that those boxes do to the entire Internet instead of
just top X destinations would be quite parallel.
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https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
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- Original Message -
From: "John Stitt"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 6:57
I think sabotage implies intent.
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- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Golding"
To: "Mark Tinka"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, November
Armchair quarterbacking...
Discussions I've seen from operators on Facebook shows some that had PNIs that
worked just fine, while others with PNIs and cache boxes didn't fare so well.
Some with just cache boxes were fine, while others were not.
What were your educated observations, preferably w
And so many of those bilateral processes are just simply broken.
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- Original Message -
From: Will Hargrave
To: Tom Beecher
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 11:22:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject
I use dedicated email addresses for each mailing list that I'm on so that I can
file accordingly and thus, don't need to use digests.
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Hell, we still convert people with 1980s Meridian phone systems. Those are not
candidates to do anything but move to an IP handset.
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We've just moved to tunneling anything VoIP if on Comcast's network.
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- Original Message -
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, September
aid
AT&T and the 811 contact said their system labeled it as 3rd party duct. Of
course AT&T denies having anything.
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That doesn't even make any sense. IPv4 is a contended resource, but IPv6 is
not. They're already double-dipping by charging for the extra BGP sessions.
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https://www.mailop.org/
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- Original Message -
From: "Martin Cook"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2024 1:15:17 PM
Subject: Comcast.net ema
This is the Internet, after all, so I will be corrected if I'm wrong.
911 is based on MSAG (Master Street Address Guide), not USPS. However, many
operators are likely using the USPS system to sanitize the inputs.
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venues with high traffic because dedicated
investments are being made. If the investment in deploying these ONTs all over
God's creation is already being made, one might as well find additional revenue
streams for them.
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Just because they were presented with the information doesn't mean they
understand.
Just because they understand doesn't mean they execute based on that
information.
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"a limited set of providers willing to sell it, if at all."
I know of one (Windstream) that offers it on a portion of their footprint. I
swore others did, but I couldn't find them. Does anyone know who else in the
NANOG area who does this?
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I have found a modem with Positron that'll do up to 8 pair of bonding.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "nanog"
Sent: Frida
Some of you have pointed out (onlist and offlist) the importance of the OS to
these concerns. Yes, that makes sense. THe Venn Diagram of hardware that
can\can't and OSes that can\can't.
I'd appreciate some feedback as well on the OS side of things.
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What are your experiences with alien waves, managed spectrum, spectrum as a
service, etc?
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I recently figured out that my Calix E7s can bond more than 2 pair of VDSL
lines. However, none of my modem vendors seem to support more than 2 pair. What
modem platforms are people using in this scenario?
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That makes sense, but also why I'm going beyond the datasheet here to solicit
people's feedback.
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- Original Message -
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To:
need the density of dozens of 400G\100G ports. That the routers that
seem to be more marketed to the use case are designed for.
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I suppose that depends on the size (bits and miles) of the network and the cost
of transport within it. In many areas, space + power + port is cheaper than
transport.
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It's free.
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- Original Message -
From: "Eric Dugas via NANOG"
To: "Aaron Gould"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:12:38 PM
Subject: R
Unimus is very open to adding additional platforms and improving support for
existing platforms. I'd reach out to them for assistance.
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I would assume that's going to be highly dependent on which facilities you want
it to be in.
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- Original Message -
From: "Theo Voss"
To: nanog@
https://radar.qrator.net/as/14593/ipv4/neighbors/peerings
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- Original Message -
From: "Dave Taht"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 1:54:44
I came to suggest this.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jesse DuPont"
To: "Brandon Martin" , nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 12:1
But then MCI is the one running fiber to all of the Verizon Wireless sites, so
that doesn't help in de-muddying the waters.
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- Original Message -
From: sro...@
" In IPv6's default operation, if Joe has two connections then each of
his computers has two IPv6 addresses and two default routes. If one
connection goes down, one of the routes and sets of IP addresses goes
away."
This sounds like a disaster.
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is own, he's just going to do simple NAT.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 12:50:46 PM
Evidence to support Tom's statement:
https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Brian Knight&qu
"How does Google handle mail from an IPv6 server?"
A few people have posted that it works for them, but unless it has changed
recently, per conversations on the mailop mailing list, Google does not treat
IPv6 and IPv4 mail the same and that causes non-null issues.
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ve not are too busy to be engaging in the conversation. Well, mostly.
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- Original Message -
From: "Owen DeLong via NANOG"
To: "Christopher Hawk
This seems more ideological and not overly appropriate for NANOG.
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- Original Message -
From: Glen A. Pearce
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:54:59 -0600 (CST
I guess I'm not aware of the hotel situation. I saw one was booked, the other
was not.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Rya
ow the calendar is looking a bit dry.
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Is the only public source for Zayo's network map their PDF that's behind a sign
up form? Tranzact is still running, but doesn't display anything when you turn
on the fiber layer.
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- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Hawker"
To: "nanog"
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2024 5:07:39 AM
Subject: Mail to Microsoft
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: sro...@ronan-online.com, "NANOG"
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 9:19:09
Well right, which came well after the question was posited here.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: sro...@ronan-online
Some will work directly on the IX via BGP. Others have to go behind a member of
the IX.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jérôme Nicolle"
To: "Mehmet"
Cc: n
Someone I talked to while on scene today said their area got to 130 and cooked
two core routers.
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From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "NANOG"
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and none in the other two facilities you operate in that same building had any
failures.
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From: sro...@ronan-online.com
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: &quo
Coincidence indeed ;-)
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- Original Message -
From: "Clayton Zekelman"
To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2024 8:23:37
aftermath?
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I'm not talking about global, public use, only private use.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "Ryan Hamel" , &
u"
use.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "Ryan Hamel" , "Abraham Y. Chen" ,
nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday,
" every networking vendor, hardware vendor, and OS vendor"
How far are we from that, in reality? I don't have any intention on using the
space, but I would like to put some definition to this boogey man.
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I'm assuming that modern queuing mechanisms aren't going to be viable in
switches until which time they're baked into the silicon.
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20of%20thumb,1G%20host%20across%20the%20WAN.
It suggests that 60 meg is what you need at 10G. Is that per interface? Would
it be linear in that I would need 600 meg at 100G?
Some 100G switches I was looking at only had 36 megs, so that's insufficient
either way you look at it.
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I responded offlist.
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- Original Message -
From: "Bill Woodcock"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 202
Has something happened at PCH to reduce their responsiveness? They used to be
really good, but it's been tough hearing back from them this year.
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For those of you who list your network (usually wireline, but sometimes
wireless) with third parties, are you supplying just the KMZ or lit buildings
as well? If lit buildings, are you including residential? How are you defining
near-net?
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Before when I had my honeypot firewall off everything that crossed it's
threshold, I ended up blocking myself from a variety of authoritative servers,
including Google's.
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It would be better to keep the government out of it altogether, but that has
little chance of happening.
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Dave Tah
The FCC is currently posturing to feel relevant. While they're in one of these
modes, you're not going to stop them, but you might be able to redirect them on
a better path.
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Ah, it looks like that project has died.
"This email is not actively being monitored as Infrapedia project is sunsetted
since 2021."
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From: &qu
Thanks.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mehmet"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 7:07:01 AM
Subject: Re: I
Does anyone have contact information for Infrapedia? Mehmet is no longer there
and the contact form on their web site is 404.
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Why not just use SCH40 PVC sticks? Everywhere stocks that in copious levels.
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- Original Message -
From: "Brandon Martin"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28,
Everyone thinks they're a unicorn and they're special and it's a secret...
other than those that don't. ;-)
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This passing the buck thing was old a very long time ago.
CDNs and security services are great at it too.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jamie Chetta via NANOG&
\POPs were unless they
just were in DTI huts too.
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- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Holloway"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 202
Well, and "better" for what purpose? Some glass may not work out well for
longhaul 25+ terabit services, but would be fine for metro loops of regular
services.
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e fine
as well.
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- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG"
To: "Dave Taht"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 1:25
There were obviously many facets, but I think one of the turns was due to DWDM.
You no longer needed a pair for every circuit. That then contributed to the
glut of strands.
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For our own plant, we use https://mapitright.com/ For managing my collections
of others' maps, I use ArcGIS. Map It Right does all of the slack loops, splice
maps, etc. ArcGIS just loads for me a bunch of layers of network map.
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