In the articles I've read and videos I've watched, they have mentioned varying 
amounts of reduced power. I didn't commit them to memory because that wasn't 
the part I was interested in at the moment. 


Management of the things is a big thing I've been concerned about going into 
more modern systems. So often there's hand waiving regarding the orchestration 
piece of non-traditional systems. From what I've seen (and I would love to be 
wrong), you either build it in-house (not a small lift) or you buy something 
that ends up taking away all of the cost advantages that path had. 


Failure domain stuff is part of what I'm trying to learn more about, which goes 
back to more about the fundamentals of how the fabric works. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> 
To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2024 6:05:12 PM 
Subject: Re: Distributed Router Fabrics 







On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: 








Actually, as I read more about it and watch more videos about it, it seems like 
that isn't necessarily true. The claims they have at the top end surpass what 
any chassis platform I've seen is capable of, though I don't know that they 
actually have pushed the upper bounds of what's possible in the real world. 






I wonder how large a failure domain folk are willing to accept. 


I also don't know that it's actually better to have 1 thing vs N things, since 
management of the 
things is probably the expensive part (once you get past space/power which 
don't seem to be 
part of the calculations here (not in my brief read of the thread at least). 


-chris 

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