I think sabotage implies intent.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Golding" <dgold...@gmail.com> To: "Mark Tinka" <mark@tinka.africa> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2024 9:41:31 AM Subject: Re: 2 undersea cables cut I'm not sure what hard evidence you might like. There are a small number of methods by which submarine cables become damaged - anchors are right up there. In this particular case, there aren't a lot of other possibilities. There are only two cable repair ships. It will be a while before there can be forensic examination. Dan On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:29 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: On 11/21/24 14:43, Emile Aben wrote: <blockquote> On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 10:43, Hank Nussbacher < h...@efes.iucc.ac.il > wrote: <blockquote> https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/18/europe/undersea-cable-disrupted-germany-finland-intl/index.html -Hank We looked into how RIPE Atlas saw these cable cuts: https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/does-the-internet-route-around-damage-baltic-sea-cable-cuts/ . I hope this audience finds that interesting. </blockquote> The rumours floating around about this being sabotage, with no hard evidence supporting such claims, is pretty wild. Mark. </blockquote>
