Re: Mailing lists

On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 11:42:08PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > Mutt needs to know what addresses are mailing lists to generate the > header Mail-Followup-To:, which asks recipients not to send duplicate > messages to you. As best I understand, M-F-T is a draft from 1997 that expired in 1998(?)

Re: Mailing lists

On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 08:05:13PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 07:21:17PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > > When I suggested to share I was more thinking about e.g. adding your > > work to Mutt's repo, if there is a contrib directory, say. > Yes, I guess that somewhere

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:43:50PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 11:26:00PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 01:31:27AM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > Right, totally understand all of this, but where I'm confused is that if &

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:37:01AM +, dvalin--- via Mutt-users wrote: > On 16.05.25 01:31, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > > If you think this is a mess, you're right. People have tried to fix > > it, but it can't really be fixed. The only good solution is to not use > > mbox, and store mail in oth

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 01:31:27AM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > Mboxcl2 does it the other way. Instead of using a marker, it uses a length, > stored in the non-standard header Content-Length:. Software reads the > message header section and in there finds the length of the message body, > and th

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 08:57:56PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 02:25:44PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > It's interesting that in replies, Mutt uses >From escaping, though in > > the actual raw mbox file, it's not present. > > No

Re: mutt mbox format for new mailboxes

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:40:34AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > On 14/05/25, Kurt Hackenberg (k...@panix.com) wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 02:01:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > > > I believe that mutt uses mboxcl2 format for writing new mailboxes. I'd > > > be grateful to kno

Re: using a light theme with xterm (that has black background)

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 07:16:53PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 06:04:19PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra via Mutt-users wrote: > > > PS: Off-topic to this thread, but I have realized that the mutt mailing > > list does not have Reply-To set to the mailing list. > > That's been a

Re: Config setup for sender's domain in From enry in email

On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 04:26:44PM +, Eng Tan via Mutt-users wrote: > How do I configure mutt to show sender as @mydomain.com > instead of @FQDN eg. > j...@abc.mycompany.com FQDN in this > case is the name of my internal server. Set $hostname in your config, e.g

Re: mutt && Gmail

On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:06:47PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Is it possible to read/write mail with an account at Gmail using IMAPS > and SMTP(S) with mutt? Any working configuration example? Other two responses should have you covered. Also should be some good examples if you search onlin

Re: A mailing list not being recognized as such

On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 09:52:51AM -0700, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > But the thing is, in the course of following up with MUAs which > implement replies differently, the tags can -- and do -- become > intermixed with the Re prefix, and with the alternative prefixes in > other langua

Re: A mailing list not being recognized as such

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 09:15:19PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Apparently the content of my index_format varies from folder to folder. > I also use %Z but I think, after having studied Mutt's documentation, > that I do understand the problem. The manual says: > > %L If an address in the “To

Re: A mailing list not being recognized as such

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:24:51PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Will Yardley (2025/03/31 23:15 -0700): > > On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:51:52AM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > > > I notice that mutt does not identify a mailing list to which I am > > > subscribed a

Re: A mailing list not being recognized as such

On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 07:51:52AM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > I notice that mutt does not identify a mailing list to which I am > subscribed as expected. > > In Mutt's configuration, I used the content of the List-Post header as > parameter of the subscribe command. > > However, mutt does

Re: changing 'From' and list address in .muttrc

On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 10:04:13AM -0500, mikemcclain...@att.net wrote: > When I was with frontier.com I wrote a little script that would > rewrite 'from' and 'envelope_from_address' in .muttrc and it worked > fine when I wanted to change those addresses on the fly. > Frontier canceled me and I sig

Re: Seemingly redundant and/or confusing default mappings

On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 12:24:45PM +1100, Joshua Rose via Mutt-users wrote: > > Perhaps my question was phrased a bit poorly. What I'm trying to get at > with my question here is: "Why are the default bindings the way they > are", rather than "How can I change my bindings." I would guess some of

Re: ignore heading question

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 01:21:26PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Why doesn't mutt ignore User-Agent: or should that be saved as ignore > User-Agent? Hard to say without seeing your config(s).. By default, looks like mutt will include User-Agent and X-Mailer (which to me, seems like a reasonable

Re: errors in muttrc

On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 04:42:39PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > This was generated by a script called fleacollar.sh > and the mutt version is 2.22.12 > > cannot figure lines 18 and 28 errors why those are happening. How was mutt built? Can you post "mutt -v" output? And what is the error you're

Re: How to filter/limit for syntactically invalid From: line?

On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 05:53:59PM -0500, Ofer Inbar wrote: > googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 09:08:46AM -0500, Ofer Inbar wrote: > > > From: a.org" > > > The first thing I'd try: ~f'^@$' > > Oh interesting, that does work! I thought the "@" in the index

Re: Auto jump to next mailbox from pager

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 07:17:13PM -0800, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:35:42PM +, Christian Ebert wrote: > > > > is there a way to make the command which moves to the next new or > > > unread message in the pager (bound to Tab key in the pager keymap) >

Re: Two copies of email when cc-ed in mailing lists

On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 09:49:29PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org (12024-12-05): > > Gmail definitely lets you select between Reply and Reply All, and it > > respects Reply-To as far as I can tell. > > Google's webmail respects reply-to but lets users override it.

Re: Two copies of email when cc-ed in mailing lists

On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 12:43:12PM -0500, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2024/12/05 01:08, Rene Kita wrote: > > > I wonder if the argument that modern MUAs make it easy to choose between > > 'reply' and 'group reply'/'reply all' still holds. > > The List-*: headers probably didn't exist 25 years ago

Re: Two copies of email when cc-ed in mailing lists

On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 07:08:45AM +0100, Rene Kita wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:59:18PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 09:05:19AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > [...] > > > Adding “Reply-To: $address_of_the_list” is a more reliable way of

Re: mutt on an iPhone

On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 01:05:51PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I‘m running mutt for many, many years on all my FreeBSD laptops and Linux > cellphones. > > Is there any way to run it on an iPhone, maybe in a container? I'm sure someone's done it... tbh, even as a long term Mutt / vim user, I ga

Re: Two copies of email when cc-ed in mailing lists

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 07:46:34PM +0100, Gregor Zattler via Mutt-users wrote: > * Sadeep Madurange [2024-10-27; 10:38 +08]: > > In some lists, users send replies to the list address while cc-ing my > > email address. So, I get two copies of the same email. > > > > Is there anything I can do so th

Re: bouncing email and "from" address

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 10:47:01AM -0700, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:51:45AM GMT, Will Yardley wrote: > > You can also add set use_envelope_from to make sure that value is > > used for the envelope-sender as well as the header sender.

Re: bouncing email and "from" address

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 12:06:45PM -0400, hymie! via Mutt-users wrote: > > my_hdr From: hymie! > > so that all of my outgoing email has the correct email address. my_hdr From is usually used with hooks when you need to change the address conditionally. I think the canonical way to set your addr

Re: set From when replying

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:03:46AM -0700, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 01:58:29PM GMT, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > So; I need to set the From when replying to the address which the > > > original message was To. > > > Do

Re: set From when replying

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 10:18:43PM -0700, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > So; I need to set the From when replying to the address which the > original message was To. Does setting $reverse_name true and defining a regex in $alternates to match the address pattern(s) work for you? w

Re: Locating mutt logs

On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 12:15:12AM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > On 16/07/2024 00:03, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > > > > > > Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt > > >

Re: Locating mutt logs

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:51:19PM +0100, Peter Flynn wrote: > > Is it possible to turn logging on without having to compile my own mutt from > source? Or should I look for logs elsewhere? Somewhat depends whether your build has debug enabled, but first thing to try would probably be to run with

Re: mutt with gmail and okta?

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 04:41:27PM -0400, Ofer Inbar wrote: > Is it possible to use mutt with gmail's IMAP for a Google account that > uses Okta single sign-on? Creating an app password, if you're allowed to by organization policy, is going to be by far the simplest option, I think. That said, if

Re: Handing on attempt to send

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:25:41PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:18:48AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > ...I agree the docs could make it more clear. > > The docs never mention it, not even once. If by "the docs" you're referri

Re: Handing on attempt to send

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:14:40PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:56:28AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > The variable spoolfile has nothing to do with IMAP, and does not affect > > > it. > > > > I disagree; from what I ca

Re: Handing on attempt to send

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 01:25:33PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:11:36AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > I believe that's unnecessary, and kind of wrong. That variable > > > spoolfile is for incoming mail delivered into local files on

Re: Handing on attempt to send

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > I believe that's unnecessary, and kind of wrong. That variable spoolfile is > for incoming mail delivered into local files on the computer where Mutt runs > (eg, /var/mail/freduser, or ~freduser/Maildir). IMAP is entirely differen

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 07:38:50AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: > > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > > > > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > > > creation

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote: > > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the > > creation of app passwords). > > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away fro

Re: Handing on attempt to send

Checked on a couple of machines, and most seem to have libncurses-dev installed. Assuming that is for you (dpkg -l |grep curses-dev), should take about 20 seconds, and be as simple as $ curl -O http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/mutt-2.2.13.tar.gz $ tar xvzf mutt-2.2.13.tar.gz $ cd mutt-2.2.13 ## Adjus

Re: Handing on attempt to send

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:43:54PM -0400, Andrew D Arenson wrote: > Today, after working for years, my IMAP connection to Dreamhost has started > hanging when I attempt to send an email, showing a message like: "Sending > message... 0K/0.4K (0%)". > > This is mutt version 1.13.2. I have asked Drea

Re: mutt && oauth2 config

On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 08:44:23AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, June 04, 2024 a las 10:49:13AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > > Thunderbird access request received > > The result came last Friday: > > Thunderbird access request denied > > Your request has been denied. D

Re: Display links in w3m output

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 07:25:48AM +0200, Jan Eden via Mutt-users wrote: > > text/html; w3m -dump -I %{charset} -T text/html -o display_link_number=1 %s; > copiousoutput; Aside from the lynx suggestion that someone posted, I think "urlview" is supposed to be able to help with this, albeit not in

Re: Display links in w3m output

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 05:59:44AM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 18 Jun 2024 07:25 +0200, from mutt-users@mutt.org (Jan Eden via > Mutt-users): > > Is there any way to display the links inline (e.g. > > Markdown-style) with w3m (or lynx)? > > In case it helps, my mailcap entry using lynx is

Re: set date_format

On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 06:47:30PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > Can you tell me how to make the date display in the catalog with letters > in day/month/year format, i.e. 09/05/2024 I write in muttrc set > date_format="%d/%m/%Y" and there are no changes. I think you need to override the default or curre

Re: How to delete message with purge=no?

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 08:22:03PM +0800, Sadeep Madurange wrote: > When deleting emails (with d), I get a prompt for purging them. I'd like > to silence that prompt with 'no'. And, see the prompt when I change > folder, or better yet, when I quit mutt. > > Is there a way to do this? If I'm under

Re: Question about message id

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 01:05:09PM +0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:33:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > side note: using quotes around the template screws things up, that is, > > set message_id_format="" > > vs > > set message_id

Re: Question about message id

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > I think some people mentioned some minor threading issues with the new > > format? > > Is that so? I don't recall noticing anything about that... I'd love a > pointer to some details, if anyone has that. It's possible that it was

Re: Question about message id

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 08:05:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > > > s

Re: Question about message id

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > should care in the slightest what your message ID looks like. That's totally true, but I still like the classic Mutt message-id format. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but

Re: Question about message id

On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have > the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? > For example Message-Id: <43265...@example.com> consisting of random > digits and domain name There was a long debate

Re: [OT] Terminal redraw issues / isync launchctl job in macOS 13.5

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 08:52:21AM +0200, Jan Eden via Mutt-users wrote: > On 2023-08-14 14:16, Will Yardley wrote: > > I am observing this as well (at least with 2.2.7) -- both before and > > after recompiling. > > This can be fixed by using a newer ncurses version, as Denni

Re: compiling issues on latest ventura + latest mutt

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 12:39:34PM +0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 02:02:52PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > Building latest mutt (2.2.10) on latest Ventura (13.5) (using homebrew > > for all the deps), and getting errors like this for gpg-error and a >

Re: [OT] Terminal redraw issues / isync launchctl job in macOS 13.5

On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 03:47:53PM +0200, Jan Eden via Mutt-users wrote: > > I recently upgraded to macOS 13.5, and for the first time, there are > redraw issues in the Terminal with mutt (2.2.10, installed via > Homebrew). Also, the launchctl job for isync/mbsync (1.4.4, also > installed via Home

compiling issues on latest ventura + latest mutt

Building latest mutt (2.2.10) on latest Ventura (13.5) (using homebrew for all the deps), and getting errors like this for gpg-error and a similar one for gpgme itself (side note: the actual problem I'm trying to fix is weird screen redraw artifacts since updating OS X with the version I'd had inst

Re: INBOX message count in sidebar

On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 10:18:37PM +0200, Mikhail Nidze via Mutt-users wrote: > The problem was in *folder* and *spoolfile* variables incorrectly set. > The correct ones are: > > set folder = "imaps://imap.mail.me.com:993" > set spoolfile = "imaps://my_acco...@imap.mail.me.com/INBOX" BTW, Kev

Re: Is there any way to view text/html inline *only if* we think text/plain is not right?

I usually hit 'v' and then go in and view the other section that way if I don't think the default one (I think plain text for me) looks right. w

Re: restrict folder hook to specific folder(s)

On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 11:27:05AM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I have a folder called "R". There are other folders that have "R" in > their name. However, when I set up a > > folder-hook '(R)' > > it seems to apply to all folders with R in it, with embarrassing > consequences. How do I make su

Re: from and envelope_from_address

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 03:34:07PM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 02:02:54PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > Won't setting > > set use_from > > globally accomplish always setting the envelope-from address to the > > header from? > >

Re: from and envelope_from_address

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:39:20AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 05:14:38PM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > lists -group mutt mutt-users > > send-hook '%L mutt' "set from='googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org' ; set > > envelope_from_address='googly.negotiator...@aceecat.or

Re: test shell env in .muttrc

On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 08:26:16PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Perhaps I've overlooked the facility. Is there a way to test the > shell environment in .muttrc? Basically an "if" statement. > > I enter mutt in several ways (direct, aliases, shell scripts, > functions, etc) and from several devic

Re: [Mutt] attach file from another email to current email

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 10:15:48AM +0100, Bastian wrote: > On 15Nov22 23:36-0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Tue Nov15'22 12:33:32AM, Mihai Lazarescu wrote: > > > You can select the attachments you want from one source message, then > > > reply > > > (r) or forward (f) and mutt will ask whether t

Re: in search of OAuth2 tokens for Microsoft Office 365

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 06:13:42PM -0500, Greg Marks wrote: > Is the least intrusive way to proceed to request that my Azure account > associated with my university e-mail be granted permission in the > Azure Active Directory in the Azure AD role of "Application > developer"? So, I went through so

Re: Regard To-Envelope for alternates?

my default From: to my mutt-ML-specific > address. It's not overly taxing, but it's annoying to manually do > what could be done automatically. I agree that would be useful. That said, I usually handle the scenario you describe this way: send-hook '~C ^mutt-users@mutt\.org$' 'my_hdr From: Will Yardley ' w

Re: Regard Envelope-to: for alternates?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 02:28:43PM +0200, Bastian wrote: > On 12Sep22 14:24+0200, Bastian wrote: > > Would it be feasible to also let the alternates scan the mail headers > > and find the header 'To-Envelope'? > > Sorry, the header is labled Envelope-to: I agree having some kind of ability to gu

Re: mutt, imaps and OAuth2

On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 12:51:34PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Hello Francesco! > > Have you considered enabling 2fa and then adding an application-specific > > password? > > I didn't realise this possibility was there, actually, many thanks for > mentionning it! Yeah, if you can use an a

Re: [OT] fetchmail replacement supporting Oauth

On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 03:18:20AM +0530, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: > Will Yardley writes: > > > On Sun, May 01, 2022 at 02:17:40PM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote: > >> > >> Google seems serious about disabling app passwords for good this time > >> in f

Re: [OT] fetchmail replacement supporting Oauth

On Sun, May 01, 2022 at 02:17:40PM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote: > > Google seems serious about disabling app passwords for good this time > in favor of Oauth. Any links / docs / background on this? w

Re: vs. / vs.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:43:46AM +1100, raf wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 06:23:19PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg > wrote: > > Procmail is badly outdated, > > I might be the only person that thinks this, but... > > If it's still in use and still usable, it's not "outdated". > It's just "stable

Re: Oauth with Microsoft authenticator

On Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 10:55:46AM +, lejeczek via Mutt-users wrote: > > I'm fiddling with mutt first time and I'm trying to hook into Microsoft > which I limited by my org - I cannot generate any app passwords. > I wondered if it would work with/via "authenticator app" where MS generates > "A

Re: display_filter and multipart mails

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:49:38PM +, mi...@posteo.nl wrote: > I receive mails from someone using Content-Type: multipart/alternative > with two parts. First: text/plain, second: text/html. The first part > is always buggy (missing blanks and incorrect paragraphs). This is why > in this case I

Re: Automatic Key Search for email Sender?

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 05:13:45PM -0400, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Is there a way to get mutt to automatically search for a gpg key for an > email sender and put it in my keychain? GPG can be configured to do this _if_ the key is on public keyservers See: https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/wikis/

Re: disable gpg in mutt

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 03:06:18PM +0200, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: > > how can I completely disable gpg integration in mutt ? > > If message happens to be encrypted, I would like mutt to simply show me > the source (encrypted). [...] > I don't know how that happened. I am using gpg on the same a

Re: No Messages in Hotmail Inbox

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 09:10:25AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > I created my Hotmail account through mutt-wizard. Previously I > > created Gmail and GMX accounts successfully. But this time I find no > > messages in Hotmail Inbox, though I have thousands of emails in > > Hotmail. Here are the

Re: Wordwrap of long lines

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:46:58AM -0400, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > It seems I'm either getting emails with long lines now all of a sudden > or I did something to my configuration. As far as your outgoing messages (at least this one), they're showing up with unwrapped lines, which is an edito

Re: Thank you for threading!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:55:46AM -0400, Andrew D. Arenson wrote: > I recently upgraded my work workstation from RHEL6 to Ubuntu 20.04, so > was able to move from mutt 1.5.20 to 1.13.2 ... and now I have > threading! Threading has been part of Mutt since I can remember; maybe your default config

Re: mailing list config - two questions

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 05:46:04PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > When is it useful to have a mailing list to which > you are not subscribed "known"? IIRC, the original purpose was mostly to setup the (not ever ratified as a real standard, and not commonly used now) mail-followup-to header appropr

Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 08:55:45AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 25Feb2021 09:56, Will Yardley wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote: > >> Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address > >> sha

Re: Choose 'From:' address based on 'To: address

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 04:11:02PM +, Alexander Huemer wrote: > Is there a configuration option to choose which 'From:' email address > shall be used if a mail to a certain 'To:' address is composed? If a > 'To:' address isn't in the mapping, then the 'set from' configuration > setting shoul

Re: list messages with emojis in subject line? 💩

On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:12:32AM -0800, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: > What filter can I use to only show messages that contain emojis in the > subject line? > > For me, these are almost always spam, so I would like to quickly > filter them out. Seems like that might be challenging - even if Mutt

Re: not to set message id in outgoing email

On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 06:33:37PM +0100, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2021, Will Yardley wrote: > > > Even if Mutt doesn't set one, the first MTA it hits will add one. Not > Not really - a MTA should not make such changes. > A MSA should do it, but Message-Id:

Re: not to set message id in outgoing email

On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 08:57:32AM -0600, Peng Yu wrote: > > When I use mutt to construct an outgoing email, is there a way not to > set the message id? Thanks. Even if Mutt doesn't set one, the first MTA it hits will add one. Not setting one will also break threading. What exactly is your goal h

Re: GMail SMTP: no authenticators available?

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 04:22:04PM -1000, Baron Fujimoto wrote: > > The following in my muttrc was used successfully util this problem began: > > set smtp_url = smtp://u...@example.org@smtp.gmail.com Do you have smtp_authenticators (unset by default) set? set smtp_url = "smtps://lu...@example.c

Re: Option to control top-posting in replies?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:36:27PM +, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote: > > I went through all of the config options (I think) and couldn't find > an option for this, so I decided to ask on here. > > I'd like to selectively prevent top-posting in Mutt. Mostly, that > would mean changing the position of th

Re: imap_pass == smtp_pass ?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 09:29:26PM +, markol...@danwin1210.me wrote: > On 201119-07:42-0500, Philippe Meunier wrote: > > > > I use an IMAPS server for reading email and an STMPS server for sending > > email. Both servers use the same password, which I think is a fairly > > common setup. > >

Re: Syntax for creating Muttrc.

On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 09:58:17PM -0700, M.R.P. zensky wrote: > Can someone tell me the syntax for creating a Muttrc file on linux? I > have installed it on linux and am trying to understand how to > configure it. man 5 muttrc and / or looking at the sample one that should ship with Mutt could b

Re: IMAP authentication in one domain (my institution) and redirect to Gmail

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:01:43AM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > > There are some way to connect offlineimap and msmtp, and so on mutt, in > this authentication way? If you can create an "app password", it's relatively easy. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en If your org won'

Re: Index screen - could it feature time segments?

On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 12:26:01AM +0300, Leho Kraav wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 05:08:25PM -0400, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote: > > Alternatively, if you are accessing the mailboxes via IMAP, the server > > software may have a fancier mechanism. For example, Dovecot has virtual > > folders. >

Re: support for Office365?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 02:20:25PM -0400, Andrew D. Arenson wrote: > My organization is moving to Office365 and have decided, sadly, not to > support IMAP. > > Anyone have insight in how mutt might still be able to connect to > Office365? If app passwords are enabled, you can just do that https:/

Re: mutt for office 365 mfa

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:00:58PM -0400, Dave Botsch wrote: > I haven't looked into it enough to know the difference between xoauth2 and > oauthbearer. > > Here is MS's blog post: > https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/office/blogs/announcing-oauth-2-0-support-for-imap-smtp-client-protocols-in-e

Re: mutt for office 365 mfa

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 08:32:13PM -0400, Dave Botsch wrote: > that's been pushed off until 2021. Supposedly Office365 now support oauth2 > via imap/smtp/pop. I think only by an older method, though (XOAUTH2 vs. OAUTHBEARER) http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20200601/000827.ht

Re: mutt for office 365 mfa

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:54:00PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 02:09:17PM -0400, Scott Brozell wrote: > > The organization i work for has forced on us office 365 multi factor > > authentication. In addition to outlook duo they are supporting > > evolution and have setup a ten

any new progress on OAuth 2 / Office365 access

Anyone have any tricks / tips for accessing Office365 via Mutt? I know there have been a couple threads in the past has anyone gotten any of the existing OAuth auth hooks to play nice with Office365, or written any new tooling around it? w

Re: NNTP ?

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? Without a patch, I don't think so. I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use thi

Re: Alternate html and text plain avoinding message like "your mailreader dont support html-mail"

On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 11:18:08AM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > There are some alternative to tell mutt to read first text plain only > if it is the full message? Ignoring text plain messages if it is short > like "your mailreader don't support html message"? I have seen this happen occasionally

Re: marking a message as "read"

On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 12:38:25PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-09-06 10:50, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > Both "new" and "old" are "unread".  "read" means neither new nor old. > > That sounds familiar. I think that goes back about 40 years, long before > Mutt, to how spooling of inco

Re: mailboxes - example

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 07:15:49AM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 01:07:28PM +, Dan Ciprus (dciprus) wrote: > > Obviously all strings defined there are considered mailboxes even though > > there is no maildir structure nor mailbox file. > > Yes, that's exactly the pr

Re: NeoMutt 20170113 (1.7.2) (debian9) segfaults on readonly mbox

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 08:24:11AM +0200, Alexander Dahl wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 01:47:15PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > > This might not be the right place to report this but > > Is the mutt mailing list the right place to discuss neomutt problems? > (Serious question, I don't actually

Re: majordomo [Was: Send to a Listing]

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 07:52:46AM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > The whole point of suggesting majordomo is that (IIRC) it keeps the > > recipients in a plain-text file, one address per line, making it > > trivial to replace them by dropping in a file that had them in that >

Re: format=flowed

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 08:13:02AM -0500, John Hawkinson wrote: > Only tangentially relevant, I spent a while trying to get > format=flowed to work effectively a year or so ago and couldn't easily > do so (perhaps I was testing against Gmail, I don't recall), and ended > up just converting to send

Re: Hide a message?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 07:37:28AM -0600, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2018-12-13 22:05, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > mbox still serves my needs and has never failed me. why would I > > want to invest time and effort to change to something (anything) > > else? maildir does not "work better" as I can see.

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