Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: dark scenes with splotches of grey

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi Dan - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > would it be feasible to use the individual article form I wonder? > > Done. Bad enough I did it twice in a row, but I know me, and I'd do > it again if I stayed on digest. Now if others wouldn't rub it in by > replying with the same subject line... :

[Mjpeg-users] attempting to get LVS to work...

2003-03-11 Thread Marcus Smith
Hi. I've been spending my week trying to capture with my Matrox G400-TV card and hopefully take advantage of the hardware MJPEG encoder. Thus far I have successfully installed the mgavideo drivers and mjpegtools. XawTV works super for playback, but nasty for recording thereby creating a need to u

[Mjpeg-users] Re: dark scenes with splotches of grey

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
It is a low volume group for the most part - would it be feasible to use the individual article form I wonder? Done. Bad enough I did it twice in a row, but I know me, and I'd do it again if I stayed on digest. Now if others wouldn't rub it in by replying with the same subject l

[Mjpeg-users] stupid subject line

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mjpeg-users] Re: [Possible SPAM] Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #888 - 1\5 msgs Interesting subject - wonder where that came from? It came from hitting "r" on a digest email and f

[Mjpeg-users] Re: --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
I think extent of the ringing artifacts depend on the source images being encoded. If the spatial bandwidth of the signal hitting mpeg2enc has already been limited (by camera optics, preprocessing, etc) then at higher spatial frequencies the spectrum will already roll off, and will probably be le

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #889 - 5 msgs

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mjpeg-users] Re: Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #889 - 5 msgs Hmmm, the digest form apparently obscures the initial Subject: - was wonder what "Vol 1 #899 - 5 msgs" was all about. It is a low volume group for the most part -

Re: [Mjpeg-users] gleam around letters and sharp edges

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ellis
You are correct. MPEG at it's core is more or less a variant of still image jpeg, and the quantization stage of jpeg can produce a ringing effect due to what the real meaning of the quantization pass in the frequency domain. But in any case, the --keep-hf flag to mpeg2enc in my experience reduces

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ellis
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > So if for example you had an image of a building against a blue sky, if > > you looked closely next to the edge of the building there would be > > ghosts of the building edge adjacent to the edge in the playback image > > of the blue sky. Credit lettering and s

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ellis
Using --keep-hf to mpeg2enc does increase the output bitrate over keeping everything else the same and not using --keep-hf. However, it does, at least to me, seem to also eliminate the halo/ringing effect from sharp edge transitions in the encoded video. I'm using DC10+'s to capture, and when I w

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Re: [Possible SPAM] Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #888 - 15 msgs

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi 0 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Mjpeg-users] Re: [Possible SPAM] Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #888 - 15 msgs Interesting subject - wonder where that came from? >Out of curiosity what threshold (-t) and depth (-d) values did you > > I used your suggested parameters, a

[Mjpeg-users] Re: Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #889 - 5 msgs

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
I came up with a simple (i.e. very dumb, perhaps too much so) program to generate a histogram of a Y4MPEG2 frame. Using the program on Have you tried yuvcorrect -M STAT? It makes frame-by-frame histograms in YCbCr and RGB. I used it a little earlier to investigate the range of my camer

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
So if for example you had an image of a building against a blue sky, if you looked closely next to the edge of the building there would be ghosts of the building edge adjacent to the edge in the playback image of the blue sky. Credit lettering and station ID bugs a

[Mjpeg-users] Re: [Possible SPAM] Mjpeg-users digest, Vol 1 #888 - 15 msgs

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
Out of curiosity what threshold (-t) and depth (-d) values did you use with yuvdenoise? Or did you go with the defaults (5 and 3 respectively)? I used your suggested parameters, actually. (I assume you meant -l?) : yuvdenoise -r 24 -t 6 -l 2 -L 100 -C 110 -S 0 I use -C 110 because to my

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread Steven Boswell II
In a previous conversation on this mailing list, I was advised against using --keep-hf with analog source material.  However, my (informal) tests seemed to indicate that --keep-hf did pretty good with denoised (i.e. yuvdenoise/yuvmedianfilter) analog source material.  I wasn't sure if it was just m

Re: [Mjpeg-users] gleam around letters and sharp edges

2003-03-11 Thread Steven Boswell II
It's my understanding that sharp transitions between light & dark areas are one of the hardest things for MPEG to encode accurately.  MPEG is designed for "natural" images (i.e. stuff recorded from real-world sources). Sounds like you had some success getting rid of it with yuvmedianfilter.  Keep u

Re: [Mjpeg-users] buz and kernel 2.4.20 problem

2003-03-11 Thread Ede Wolf
Wohooo, it works. At least I do finally have my v4l entries under /dev and xawtv starts w/o errors. Time to connect a vcr, I guess. Thanks everyone > Hi Ede, > > On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 21:22, Ede Wolf wrote: > > First of all, thanks for answering, I got the source. However, what > > prequisite

Re: [Mjpeg-users] buz and kernel 2.4.20 problem

2003-03-11 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi Ede, On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 21:22, Ede Wolf wrote: > First of all, thanks for answering, I got the source. However, what > prequisites are needed for installation ? Since I do have all drivers > compiled in right now, I guess need a new kernel. What about > "CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV" (Multimedia Devices

Re: [Mjpeg-users] buz and kernel 2.4.20 problem

2003-03-11 Thread Ede Wolf
First of all, thanks for answering, I got the source. However, what prequisites are needed for installation ? Since I do have all drivers compiled in right now, I guess need a new kernel. What about "CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV" (Multimedia Devices -> Video4Linux) ? Build it as a module, compile it in or l

Re: [Mjpeg-users] gleam around letters and sharp edges

2003-03-11 Thread Al Bogner
On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 19:42 Bernhard Praschinger wrote: > > I convert old VHS-C-PAL movies to XSVCD. A blue PC-created > > titel with a light background shows a blue gleam around the > > letters. Also I see at the edges of clothing a gleam. This > > gleam at sharp edges is on the original mo

[Mjpeg-users] dark scenes with splotches of grey

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi! I've been thinking about how to reduce the blotches that appear in dark scenes. The problem I believe is one of noise which raises what should be 'black' up to various levels of grey. I came up with a simple (i.e. very dumb, perhaps too much so) program

Re: [Mjpeg-users] buz and kernel 2.4.20 problem

2003-03-11 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > It seems, Kernel 2.4.20 does not recognize my newly (used) bought buz card: > > Zoran ZR36060 + ZR36057/67 MJPEG board driver version 0.7 > MJPEG[0]: Zoran ZR36067 (rev 2) irq: 14, memory: 0xee00 > MJPEG[0]: subsystem vendor=0x13ca id=0x4231 > MJPEG[0]: Initializing i2c bus... > MJPEG

Re: [Mjpeg-users] gleam around letters and sharp edges

2003-03-11 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > I convert old VHS-C-PAL movies to XSVCD. A blue PC-created titel > with a light background shows a blue gleam around the letters. Also > I see at the edges of clothing a gleam. This gleam at sharp edges > is on the original movie too, but you can see no gleam around the > title with the a

Re: [Mjpeg-users] problems with lavrec and lml33

2003-03-11 Thread Andrew Stevens
Hi Paul, How old is your LML33 a recent R10 upwards or an oldie like mine. I'm currently "working" (i.e. its on my list for a free evening when I'm not knackered) on tuning the LML33 video decoder setup. Feel free to feed me your Results - it useful to have different video sources they someti

Re: [Mjpeg-users] yuvdenoise parameter handling bug as well

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ellis
--- Ronald Bultje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Richard, > > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 14:13, Richard Ellis wrote: > > Note, w/h appear to be the result of subtracting two from unsigned > > int's that were initialized to zero, instead of being initialized to > > the incoming frame width/height from

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ellis
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's no free lunch, so can somebody please tell me what sorts of > artifacts I need to look for? In my experience with experimenting with the --reduce-hf flag to mpeg2enc, that having the flag turned on created a ringing effect at sharp edge transitions in the

Re: [Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I decided to compare using the --reduce-hf switch of mpeg2enc to other > methods for reducing noise and the bitrate, after having ignored it > previously. I was pleasantly surprised. To take an example, I > converted noisy DV footage to DVD format with -q 5 and -b

[Mjpeg-users] buz and kernel 2.4.20 problem

2003-03-11 Thread Ede Wolf
Hello all, It seems, Kernel 2.4.20 does not recognize my newly (used) bought buz card: Zoran ZR36060 + ZR36057/67 MJPEG board driver version 0.7 MJPEG[0]: Zoran ZR36067 (rev 2) irq: 14, memory: 0xee00 MJPEG[0]: subsystem vendor=0x13ca id=0x4231 MJPEG[0]: Initializing i2c bus... MJPEG[0]: Card

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Calculated bitrate, but file too large... and works slow

2003-03-11 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi! > From: Bernhard Derks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mjpeg-users] Calculated bitrate, but file too large...and works slow > > ... > So there are 1 files with ~17 GB in the working dir. > > I tried to encode with > > lav2yuv $1|yuvscaler -O SVCD|mpeg2enc -f 4 -q 7 -4 1 -2 1 -

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Any pre-built binaries?

2003-03-11 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi Tim, On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 11:52, Tim Hewett wrote: > I'm new to Linux and having been unsuccessfully trying to get > mjpegtools to work on my Mandrake system. I have tried downloading > mjpegtools-1.6.1-1.i386.rpm and quicktime4linux-1.4-patched-.gz > but can't seem to get them to build. I'm w

[Mjpeg-users] Any pre-built binaries?

2003-03-11 Thread Tim Hewett
Hello, I'm new to Linux and having been unsuccessfully trying to get mjpegtools to work on my Mandrake system. I have tried downloading mjpegtools-1.6.1-1.i386.rpm and quicktime4linux-1.4-patched-.gz but can't seem to get them to build. I'm wondering if any pre-built binaries exist like for MacOS

[Mjpeg-users] gleam around letters and sharp edges

2003-03-11 Thread Al Bogner
I convert old VHS-C-PAL movies to XSVCD. A blue PC-created titel with a light background shows a blue gleam around the letters. Also I see at the edges of clothing a gleam. This gleam at sharp edges is on the original movie too, but you can see no gleam around the title with the avi-file. Afte

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Calculated bitrate, but file too large... and works slow

2003-03-11 Thread Al Bogner
On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 10:13 Bernhard Derks wrote: > Any ideas? I calculated the bitrate with the Java-applet on > vcdhelp. I don't know this applet. I use FitCD, a Win programm, which runs with wine here. The installation of wine for fitcd was very easy with Suse 8.1, I clicked on FitCD an

[Mjpeg-users] Calculated bitrate, but file too large... and works slow

2003-03-11 Thread Bernhard Derks
Hi, i have a set of .avi-Files, re corded with Pinnacle DC10+ and Creative Labs SB 4.1 Digital, the .eli looks like LAV Edit List PAL 10 prior101.avi prior102.avi prior103.avi prior104.avi prior105.avi prior106.avi prior107.avi prior108.avi prior109.avi prior110.avi 0 0 9867 1 0 9867 2 0 9862 3

[Mjpeg-users] --reduce-hf question

2003-03-11 Thread scholnik
I decided to compare using the --reduce-hf switch of mpeg2enc to other methods for reducing noise and the bitrate, after having ignored it previously. I was pleasantly surprised. To take an example, I converted noisy DV footage to DVD format with -q 5 and -b 8500: no denoising:

Re: [Mjpeg-users] problems with lavrec and lml33

2003-03-11 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hey Paul, On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 23:08, Paul Forgey wrote: > Before I reverted from v4l2, I did try ZORAN_VIDEODEV_2 with the same > results. Actually, that might be correct, since I can't find Andrew's changes either. Andrew, did you actually commit them? Ronald -- Ronald Bultje <[EMAIL PROTE