Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 07:10:05AM -0500: > Firefox [...] takes a long period to actually finish crashing It dumps core. That takes a long time because firefox tends to waste huge amounts of memory, and it's favourite pretext for crashing is ENOMEM, see errno(2), s

Re: Status of OpenCVS

2017-05-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, multiplex'd wrote on Thu, May 11, 2017 at 04:48:36PM +0100: > I recently stumbled across the OpenCVS webpages and I was wondering > what the status of the project is. It is dormant. While it is *almost* ready for production, actually trying to use it in production revealed instabilities tha

Re: unexpected behavior

2017-05-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Edgar, Edgar Pettijohn wrote on Mon, May 15, 2017 at 06:57:57PM -0500: > I think this may be normal, but I can't seem to find it documented anywhere. > While viewing a man page in xterm if I hit the 'v' key it appears to open it > for editing in vi. I did so accidentally recently and at first

Re: Sad story

2017-06-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
L. R. S. wrote on Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 12:14:51PM +0200: > Forgot the passphrase of a full-disk encrypted OpenBSD system ;_; > So many documents will be lost, like [coughs] accesses to NULL. Simply restore from backup. Or is that sad part of your story that your enemy stole that, the night befor

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Johan Mellberg wrote on Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 10:06:18PM +0200: > 2017-06-09 21:39 GMT+02:00 SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 : >> Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system? > Yes. To provide an example: On my private desktops and laptops, i never ran anything else since 2001. And even at work, i only made two exce

Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD

2017-06-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Baho Utot wrote on Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 01:30:46PM -0400: > 1.Where can I get a list of graphics card that are supported? $ man -s 4 -k graphic drm radeon On modern amd64, it is mostly intel(4) and radeon(4). Stay away from NVidia unless you want to use vga(4). > 2.Where can I fin

Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD

2017-06-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Erling, Erling Westenvik wrote on Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:08:57PM +0200: > Probably a stupid question but: > Why isn't the -T switch documented in man(1)? Not a stupid question at all. First answer: It is, look at man(1) and you will find this sentence: The options -IKOTW are also support

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Asbel, Asbel Kiprop wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:24:23PM +0300: > cat: /var/www/dev/urandom: Device not configured By default, /var is mounted nodev. See mount(8), fstab(5). Yours, Ingo

Re: bug tracking system for OpenBSD

2017-06-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Harald Dunkel wrote on Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:51:24PM +0200: > would it be possible to establish a real bug tracking system > for OpenBSD? There is exactly one reason it hasn't happened yet: No developer has been able and willing to invest the additional time required to set it up and to c

Re: bug tracking system for OpenBSD

2017-06-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Carlin Bingham wrote on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:20:10PM +1200: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:51:24PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> would it be possible to establish a real bug tracking system for >> OpenBSD? Something with bug owner, severity, attachments, assignee, >> and (very important) so

Re: Advice on partiotion scheme

2017-07-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, pipfsta...@openmailbox.org wrote on Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:15:19AM +: > I want to use openbsd for daily tasks on my laptop, I'm planning to build > ports by hand and I want to try some development of the system itself. > > At the moment I'm just playing around and I faced a little probl

Re: A question of lock usage in OpenBSD kernel code

2017-07-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, J Doe wrote on Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:02:42AM -0400: > I would like to target OpenBSD with some networking code I am > writing in C++ (again, in user land, not kernel networking code). > I'd like to follow the OpenBSD way The OpenBSD way is to write userland network daemons in C, not in C++

Re: Pq rendering in ports(7)

2017-07-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 05:57:08PM +0200: > This is how ports.7 is rendered on my 6.1-current: > > For more information about using ports, see The OpenBSD Ports System ( > https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#Ports > ).For information about cr

Re: Pq rendering in ports(7)

2017-07-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:50:01AM +0200: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Maybe mandoc should warn about the portability issue? Possibly, >> but i would have to understand what exactly is broken in groff, so >> what the permissible syntax is. Or even

Re: Security report with mail permissions

2017-07-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Mik, not quoting anything because your posting is too ill-formatted. Yours is a frequently answered question. The directory /var/mail/ is intended for individual user mailboxes. If you need a directory for a different purpose - like mailbox subhierarchies for virtual domains - create a diffe

Re: Minium System Requirements

2017-07-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Max Power wrote on Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 07:45:15PM +0200: > I'm looking for on http://www.openbsd.org but... > Where Can I find the official documentation about > the 'minimum system requirements' about OpenBSD? That varies from architecture to architecture and from time to time, so there is

Re: Minium System Requirements

2017-07-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Max Power wrote on Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:49:05PM +0200: > but In addition to your advice... > possible that there is no official documentation? > This is the questions...! And i already answered that: No, there isn't, because: 1. It varies from platform to platform. 2. It varies from time t

Re: Supporting OpenBSD

2017-08-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Radoslav, Radoslav Mirza wrote on Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 01:21:44PM +0930: > Are there any resources that point to where I can begin to help > with the project? We don't maintain any global TODO lists, it's too little benefit for too much work. > Such as junior jobs, documentation etc. The qu

Re: event.3: libevent no longer prints to stderr

2017-08-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Rob, thanks for looking at libevent documentation. It is in dire need of improvements in multiple respects. Rob Pierce wrote on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 10:21:16AM -0400: > As of the last commit to src/lib/libevent/log.c the library > no longer prints to stderr. Update man page accordingly. >

Re: Please Advise on licencing

2017-08-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Reyk Floeter wrote on Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 08:41:18AM +0200: > Am 04.08.2017 um 05:11 schrieb Siju George : >> I want this information to be available to all without discrimination. >> Which is the best licence I can give them? > the license is your choice ;-) While that is both true and im

Re: Please Advise on licencing

2017-08-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Siju, Siju George wrote on Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 06:50:12AM +0530: > In a code repository should the licence wording be on every file ? Best practice is: 1. To have at least one line containing "Copyright (c) ..." at the top of each file containing copyrightable content. 2. Each author

Re: OpenBSD Traning Docs / How Tos

2017-08-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tom, you are aware that the term "HOWTO" is very strongly detested round here, right? It is considered a synonym for so-called documentation that is imprecise, unsystematic, and tells the user to type some random commands they won't understand because the HOWTO doesn't really explain how thing

Re: possible YP faq-doc bug ?

2017-08-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Harold, harold felton wrote on Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 04:19:59AM -0700: > yp-server step 9: i think requires cmd '# rcctl enable ypserv' > rather than just the file-listed to survive a reboot... > yp-client step 3: requires similar cmd '# rcctl enable ypbind' > rather than just the file-list

Re: How to find out which files were changed in -CURRENT and -STABLE between two releases?

2017-08-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, pipfsta...@openmailbox.org wrote on Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:07:44PM -: > I want to fill https://openbsd.org/plus61.html Wow, that would be useful, but it's a lot of work. Multiple days of full-time work, probably. In the past, people who did that have usually started from a mailing lis

Re: expr / (( )) different behavior

2017-08-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Alessandro DE LAURENZIS wrote on Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:14:48PM +0200: > On Fri 11/08/2017 13:07, Janne Johansson wrote: >> 0 is parsed as octal in places, so 09 would be bogus if octal. > Thanks for the clarification; does that mean expr(1) can treat 10-base > numbers only? No info in man

Re: amd(8): outdated FILES manpage's section?

2017-08-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Alessandro, Alessandro DE LAURENZIS wrote on Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 06:46:02PM +0200: > Since this old commit [0] the default location for the real amd(8)'s > mount points has been changed from "/a" to "/tmp_mnt". > > This is correctly referenced in the man page, when the "-a" option is > des

Re: Query regarding exec in mandocdb.c

2017-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi George, George Brown wrote on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 02:01:05PM +0100: > In mandocdb.c it appears cmp(1) and rm(1) are executed in a child > process. Indeed, i never really liked that, yet i didn't spend much time thinking about it either. > It seems that if the logic from these programs were

Re: code duplication

2017-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, there isn't the one answer that fits all situations. The goal in this respect is simplicity and maintainability. Often, it is simpler to maintain two copies of similar code. For example, the libc and kernel implementations of malloc(3) and malloc(9) are distinct. Reacharound between kernel

Re: Query regarding exec in mandocdb.c

2017-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi George, George Brown wrote on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 02:01:05PM +0100: > In mandocdb.c it appears cmp(1) and rm(1) are executed in a child > process. It seems that if the logic from these programs were duplicated > the pledge in mandocdb.c could be further restricted and even not bother > with f

Re: Query regarding exec in mandocdb.c

2017-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ted, Ted Unangst wrote on Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:35:01PM -0400: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> +if ((cp1 = mmap(NULL, sb1.st_size, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, >> +fd1, 0)) == NULL) { >> +say(MANDOC_DB, "&mmap"); >> +goto er

Re: FYI: man.openbsd.org uses an invalid security certificate.

2017-09-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, Steiner Peter wrote on Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 09:35:32AM +: > man.openbsd.org uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate expired on 11.09.2017 06:27. > The current time is 11.09.2017 11:31. Fixed. Sorry for the disruption and thanks for the heads-up. Yours, Ingo

Re: Open /dev/mem file failed when running as a root priviledge

2017-09-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
intentionally hard to discourage using it. Also, even if you get this to work now, don't hold your breath that we will continue supporting it in the future. It seems likely to me that even more restrictions may be placed on /dev/mem in the future, and you should not expect that dmidecode will con

Re: Maintaining process clarification

2017-09-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Zbyszek, Zbyszek wrote on Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:43:35AM +0200: > I am new to OpenBSD Welcome. > Example: In 6.1 I assume that means you are using -stable. > there is package openvpn-2.4.1, how updates to the package are > handled? If there is critical issue with the package, then > "open

Re: Is there git-flow-completion for ksh?

2017-10-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Nan Xiao wrote on Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 05:33:17PM +0800: > I know there is git-flow-completion for bash. > For default ksh on OpenBSD, is there any out-of-box > git-flow-completion? Hell no. No plugins in the shell, please. You want a shell that you can trust, right? If you want an environ

Re: Tar and bzip2 maximum compression

2017-10-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Philippe, Philippe Meunier wrote on Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:03:12AM -0400: > leo_...@volny.cz wrote: >> % tar cvvf - > On a related note, it would be nice if tar(1)'s man page indicated that the > -v option can be specified more than once to get extra information. Until > seeing this discuss

Re: Porter's Handbook obsolete info

2017-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Steve, Steve Shockley wrote on Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 08:11:24PM -0400: > FYI, http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/specialtopics.html refers to the > security/nessus port, which was retired some time ago. The section does > show a useful example though, but I'm not sure what would make a good >

Re: use /dev/arandom on the Linux

2017-10-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Philipp, hi Markus, Philip Guenther wrote on Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 12:05:55AM -0700: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Mohammad BadieZadegan > arandom entropy is better than urandom and I need arandom for better >> entropy and better speed in comparison about /dev/random. > Umm, I don't under

while awaiting the 6.2 release song...

2017-10-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, now that OpenBSD 6.2 has been out for a bit but there are still some weeks of anticipation for the 6.2 release song, and now that CD sets are no longer being made in order to avoid the overhead and instead focus on ongoing development, here is a small distraction for the time being: OpenBSD

Re: is there something missing in pledge?

2017-10-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, Peter J. Philipp wrote on Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 04:35:12PM +0200: > Index: open.2 > === > RCS file: /cvs/src/lib/libc/sys/open.2,v > retrieving revision 1.49 > diff -u -p -u -r1.49 open.2 > --- open.219 Jan 2015 15:54:11

Re: PDF produced by mandoc

2017-10-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 01:34:03PM +0200: > This is current/amd64. I just produced a pdf of bc(1) with > "man -Tpdf bc > bc.pdf". > > Trying to view that pdf with mupdf(1) complains thusly: > (I can view and print the PDF fine though) > > warning: expected 'endobj'

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Walter, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 05:44:16PM +0200: > I have files generated with GNU roff that defaults to letter size. That's the upstream (GNU troff) default when you compile GNU troff from the git repository with automake and autoconf. If i understand correc

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Amelia, Amelia A Lewis wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:41:55AM -0400: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:14:36 +0200 (CEST), Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: >> In the ps file generated by mandoc you should have this line: >> >> %%DocumentMedia: Default 595 841 0 () () >> >> Where 595 841 correspon

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Walter, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 05:11:10PM +0200: > https://www.gnu.org/software/gv/manual/gv.html\ > #Paper-Keywords-and-paper-size-in-points Mandoc uses the exact paper size as specified by ISO 216 in millimeters: A3 297 x 420 A4 210 x 297 A5 148

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:39:20AM +0200: > This is -current/amd64. My /etc/man.conf in its entirety is 'output > paper a4'. The A4 paper size is what we mostly use around these > parts; otherwise I would not even have a man.conf of course. > > I am not sure whether man

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 09:31:38PM +0200: In the ps file generated by mandoc you should have this line: %%DocumentMedia: Default 595 841 0 () () Where 595 841 correspond to A4. If you set output paper to "letter" that line will say:

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Walter, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:12:21PM +0200: > First of all, I'm just a user like you trying to figure out > how things work. So am I. That's how it starts. I also read documentation, standards, and code at need, and start fixing them once i understand e

Re: mandoc output paper size

2017-10-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
[ sending this particular one back to the list because it contains something useful for everyone and nothing private ] Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:46:00PM +0200: > I produced a PS output with "man -Tps rm > rm.ps", > with output paper set to a3, a4, and a5 in man.conf.

Re: /etc/netstart - order of operations (lo vs physical interfaces)

2018-04-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, this has been taken care of. I just deleted the misleading sentences from the lo(4) manual page. No replacement is needed. Thanks for reporting, Ingo Hess THR wrote on Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 07:23:49PM +0200: > who is "jmc" in the header? can someone cc him? > or the people who are doing

Re: no route to host (when there is a route )

2018-05-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tom, i think i am able to reproduce your problem on -current: # sh /etc/netstart em0 # route -n show -inet default192.168.2.1UGS00 - 8 em0 192.168.2/24 192.168.2.100 UCn10 - 4 em0 192.168.2.1link#1

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200: > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > > [meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"] There is no way i w

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-15 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Solene, Solene Rapenne wrote on Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:26:10AM +0200: > x...@dr.com writes: >> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and >> usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > See no offence here, I wonder what is the context leading to

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, x...@dr.com wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:04:12PM +0200: > I think it boils down to the site being optimized > for common PC screen sizes, Absolutely not. Mandoc output is not optimized for any device. Which elements or rules in the current HTML or CSS code make you think it is optimized

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Espie wrote on Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:28:31AM +0200: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:51:43PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200: >>> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and >

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Aner, Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400: > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote: >> "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: >>> Absolutely not. >>> Mandoc output is not optimized for any device. >>> >>> Which elements or rule

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ken, Ken M wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 08:50:53PM -0400: > I will probably have to duck and run > for suggesting javascript as the answer here... Precisely. :) > But for the most part the modern industry standard to make pages > scale well across many devices and screen orientations is to

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marc Espie wrote on Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:28:31AM +0200: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:51:43PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200: >>> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and >>> u

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote on Fri, May 18, 2018 at 06:37:26PM +0300: > 2) Regarding CSS, keeping the viewport settings in the CSS would > allow the presentation and structure to remain more separate. Exactly what i said in my last mail, it doesn't belong into the HTML. > So something more-or-le

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Mihai Popescu wrote on Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:50:24PM +0300: > I have tested it on someone's Safari/iOS for iPhone, out of curiosity. > It takes the full screen. Looking at the font in the posted > screenshots i think it is Android in question. I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Re: multiple manpaths for man.cgi?

2018-05-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Justina, justina colmena wrote on Sat, May 19, 2018 at 06:01:11PM +: > I was looking for more man pages, so I copied the ones > in /usr/X11R6/man and /usr/local/man over to /var/www/man and listed > them in manpath.conf as instructed. So now they are available here. > > https://amarillo.c

Re: multiple manpaths for man.cgi?

2018-05-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Justina, justina colmena wrote on Sat, May 19, 2018 at 07:52:35PM +: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 18:01:11 + > justina colmena wrote: >> 3.) The links are not generated in the "see also" section for pages on >> the second and third manpaths. > Okay. This looks like more of an issue with the

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Justina, justina colmena wrote on Thu, May 24, 2018 at 05:54:45PM +: > On Wed, 23 May 2018 11:47:47 +0200 > Marko Cupać wrote: >> I am sure OpenBSD will correct their errors in html/css code, if any, > Right now, https://man.openbsd.org/relayd.conf.5 fails html validation. > https://val

Re: smtpd.conf new grammar

2018-05-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Rupert, [ deleted tech@ because this is off topic there ] Rupert Gallagher wrote on Thu, May 24, 2018 at 04:38:17PM -0400: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 14:18, Gilles Chehade wrote: >> In effect, instead of having: >> accept from any for local deliver to mbox >> >> You will have: >> action "my_a

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Ingo Schwarze wrote on Thu, May 24, 2018 at 09:15:29PM +0200: > justina colmena wrote on Thu, May 24, 2018 at 05:54:45PM +: >> On Wed, 23 May 2018 11:47:47 +0200 Marko Cupac wrote: >>> I am sure OpenBSD will correct their errors in html/css code, if any, &

Re: I got smtpd.conf working thanks to the man page

2018-05-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Walter, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote on Tue, May 29, 2018 at 05:47:36PM +0200: > My advice to others is not to pay attention to anything > but the man page, While that's often nor bad advice in other areas of OpenBSD, this particular manual page is not perfect yet, as should be obvious to

Re: How to search for "hostap" in man pages.

2018-06-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Karel Gardas wrote on Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 10:39:51PM +0200: > was looking for "hostap" or "Host AP" using man -k and apropos, > but this somehow does not return expected results: > > $ man -k hostap > hostapd(8) - Host Access Point daemon > hostapd.conf(5) - configuration file for t

Re: How to search for "hostap" in man pages.

2018-06-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Luke, Luke A. Call wrote on Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 05:34:45PM -0600: > I think "man -K" would work on gnu/linux, The man(1) implementation used on many (but not all) Linux systems, man-db, does have a -K option since 2009. But what it does is just linearily search through the full text of all

Re: Rewards of Up to $500,000 Offered for OpenBSD Zero-Days (and other dist.)

2018-07-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Eric wrote on Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 01:55:17PM -0500: > The solution is obvious. If there are any bug fixes of sufficient > importance, report the bug, collect the $500,000 for the foundation, > and then fix it. i can hardly believe this needs to be said, but given the lack of any smiley, an

Re: Offline FAQ

2018-07-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ahmed, Ahmed Khanzada wrote on Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 03:57:17AM -0700: > I am a programmer with a strong passion for both documentation and > offline computing. Inspired by 9front, I was wondering if there was > any interest in porting the currently online-only FAQ to an offline > FAQ format t

Re: Add my web site to "support" section like "new" one

2018-08-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Committed. May take a short time to propagate to the server. Adrien wrote on Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 03:51:05PM +0200: > 0 > C France > P Ile de france > T Paris > Z 75020 > O Iglou.eu > I Adrien Kara > A 3/7 rue Albert Marquet > M cont...@iglou.eu > U https://iglou.eu/ > B +33 9 72 61 63 13 > X > N

Re: lsof alternative for listing open files?

2018-08-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Edward, Edward Lopez-Acosta wrote on Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:41:04PM -0500: > I am aware of fuser and fstat but these seem to only give me inodes. > Is there an equivalent to the Linux application `lsof`? $ pkg_add lsof Obsolete package: lsof (ancient software that doesn't work) Once a

Re: lsof alternative for listing open files?

2018-08-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Edward, Edward Lopez-Acosta wrote on Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:29:04PM -0500: > I was looking to port bleachbit, system cleanup tool, to OpenBSD > and one function is to make sure certain files are not in use before > it proceeds. Strictly speaking, that is impossible due to a TOCTOU race condi

Re: lsof alternative for listing open files?

2018-08-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:11:14PM -0600: > Ingo, you don't understand. Kids these days don't want something that > always works. It only has to work most of the time! Then they can > build a company upon the quicksand! What a pity that you already wasted weeks, i

Re: Base httpd and addons like OpenSMTPD extras in ports?

2018-08-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, what the decision what is in base vs. in ports ultimately boils down to is developer convenience. Consequently, that's one of the rare things non-developers really can't help with. It may also be convenient for users that small, solid, and functional solutions for many common tasks are alrea

Re: make(1) and multiple outputs

2018-09-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Kristaps, Kristaps Dzonsons BSD.LV wrote on Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 09:23:33AM +0200: > Short: is there a way to manage multiple outputs from a single command > with OpenBSD's make(1)? > > Longer story. I have a site that generates a few hundred articles using > sblg(1). Each output article is

Re: resize /usr

2018-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ken, Ken M wrote on Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 03:47:05PM -0400: > 16 partitions: > #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] > a: 2097152 64 4.2BSD 2048 16384 12958 # / > b: 8241536 2097216swap# none >

Re: Equipment for OBSD based firewall

2018-09-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Bogdan, Bogdan Kulbida wrote on Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 04:17:51PM -0700: > I need to build a pf OBSD firewall for a small office. What minimally > feasible equipment would you recommend in order to achieve this goal? I seriously doubt that you can find anything in the trash that isn't seriously

Re: groups new

2018-09-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Jan Prunk wrote on Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200: > 0 > C Slovenia > P SI > T Ljubljana > F irregular > O BSD User Group Slovenia > I > M b...@groups.io > U https://bsdug.wordpress.com > N *BSD I had a look at it and i feel that it is too early to add it. The website does not contai

Re: network architecture question

2018-10-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marko, sorry for the slow response, but given that nobody else answered, maybe it's still relevant. Marko Cupac wrote on Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 02:45:30PM +0200: > for years I have been using setup with two firewalls: "outer" one - > FW1-BGP - connecting to upstream ISPs and talking BGP to them

Re: network architecture question

2018-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Aham Brahmasmi wrote on Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 11:27:09PM +0200: > Would you recommend any other books in addition to "Building Internet > Firewalls"? I'm usually not very good at recommending books, i mostly learn by reading reference manuals, standard documents, and source code. It is mere c

Re: checking source with pvs-studio

2018-10-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Aaron Mason wrote on Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 09:07:40AM +1000: > Apparently you've got to go through your source code > and plug the product in every single non-header file. Which is of course trivial to do - you write a script to do a checkout, run "sed -i", run the tool, collect the the resul

Re: OpenBSD migration

2018-11-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Martin, Martin Sukany wrote on Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 09:13:15PM +0100: > I want to migrate OpenBSD 6.4 (stable) from VM to bare metal. I see, as > usual, two options: > > 1) install everything from scratch > 2) create some flashimage (I did such thing on Solaris few years ago) > and apply th

Re: Confusing problem with CVS

2020-03-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:47:09PM -0400: > I am running -current. > > On one server, src was empty. So I did a cvs checkout. > On another server, src had older files. So I did a cvs up. > > Afterwards, inttypes.h had one size on the checkout, another size on the >

Re: Confusing problem with CVS

2020-03-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Bennett wrote on Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:23:22PM -0400: > Thanks, that was helpful. > I did not think of using info cvs. I do use info at times, > just not that often. That is quite understandable. With BSD systems in general, it is both the normal case and also our goal that th

Re: Start point to learn OpenBSD programming

2020-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Martijn, Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 08:52:54AM +0100: > On 3/16/20 8:23 AM, Martin wrote: >> The best way for beginner to start with OpenbBSD programming? > This belongs on misc, so moving it there. > > My usual routine (and probably of a lot of other OpenBSD developers)

Re: Start point to learn OpenBSD programming

2020-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Martijn, Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 09:24:26PM +0100: > On 3/16/20 9:22 AM, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Martijn van Duren wrote on Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 08:52:54AM +0100: >>> On 3/16/20 8:23 AM, Martin wrote: >>> If you want reading materia

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:06:25AM -0600: > Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> What is the purpose of supplying man pages for the wrong operating >> system? The purpose is to make it simpler to compare how different systems work without having to jump back and forth among dif

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jeffrey, Jeffrey Walton wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:55:53AM -0400: > I assumed OpenBSD and NetBSD were collaborating and shared code and > docs in some places. To a limited extent, that is true. For example, NetBSD includes mandoc(1) which is predominantly developed on OpenBSD while Ope

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:44:03PM -0600: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Jeffrey Walton wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:55:53AM -0400: >>> I assumed OpenBSD and NetBSD were collaborating and shared code >>> and docs in some places. >>

Re: groups new

2020-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jan, Jan Prunk wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:08:26PM +0100: > 0 > C Slovenia > P SI > T Ljubljana > F Irregular > O BSD User Group Slovenia > I Jan Prunk > M b...@groups.io > U https://bsdug.wordpress.com > N *BSD I suggest you resubmit when a few meetings have taken place. So far, i see n

Re: How to test for FORTIFY_SOURCE?

2020-03-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Luke, Luke A. Call wrote on Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:54:10PM -0600: > On 03-18 19:22, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Theo de Raadt wrote: >>> Ingo -- I think using man.openbsd.org as a "testbed for all possible >>> man page hierarchies" incorrect. >> It wa

Re: reviewing what is available

2020-04-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Luke, Luke A. Call wrote on Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 01:36:49PM -0600: > On 04-01 12:47, Chris Bennett wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 07:01:15AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: >>> have you considered looking at native OpenBSD tools? >>> https://man.openbsd.org/egre.4 >> Wow! I had no idea about t

Re: Contributing to spamd

2020-04-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Aisha, Aisha Tammy wrote on Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 08:54:22AM -0400: > I have been using spamd for quite a while and have been loving it. > I've seen that spamd currently only supports ipv4 and have been > wondering if it was possible to extend it to ipv6. I know that workforce > is always lim

Re: openbsd.org - certain https URLs downgraded to http in redirection

2020-04-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Constantine, Constantine A. Murenin wrote on Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 01:24:30PM -0500: > What you say makes no sense I wouldn't go that far; i think Aham has a point, even though it certainly isn't a critical nor an urgent problem. > for one simple reason: man.cgi (and cvsweb) moved out of www.

Re: Nvidia driver for OpenBSD?

2020-04-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Christopher Turkel wrote on Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 02:49:56PM -0400: > On Friday, April 10, 2020, Nikita Stepanov wrote: >> Subject: Nvidia driver for OpenBSD? > None exist or are likely to ever exist. The question from the original poster was so imprecise and lazy that no one else bothered t

Re: Does Intel driver supports 3d acceleration?

2020-04-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Otto, Otto Moerbeek wrote on Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:16:40PM +0200: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 03:52:34PM +0600, Nikita Stepanov wrote: >> Does Intel driver supports 3d acceleration? > What prevents you from looking up the man page and reading it? Lazyness, obviously. All the more so as i a

Re: Does Intel driver supports Intel g31?

2020-04-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, infoomatic wrote on Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 05:41:44PM +0200: > I suggest you read on the documentation instead of throwing one-line > questions to the mailing list. > > The documentation is excellent, just look for the information you need. > > https://man.openbsd.org/ So far, so good. > ht

Re: List a package's dependencies

2020-04-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Chris, Chris Rawnsley wrote on Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 01:34:28PM +0100: > I am looking for a way to show a package's dependencies. As far as i know, the normal ways to do that are: # direct run dependencies only cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt; make run-depends-list cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt; make

Re: List a package's dependencies

2020-04-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Espie wrote on Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:05:36PM +0200: > Actually, not having recursive depends easily available on an installed > package base is somewhat tedu-ish. Heh. :-) > Most specifically, it's not very useful for anything in common usage. What > would you want it for ?..

Re: timegm()

2020-04-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Theo de Raadt wrote on Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:11:56AM -0600: > William Ahern wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:01:10PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:51:54AM +, Roderick wrote: Acording to the man page: "timegm() is a deprecated interface that co

Re: timegm()

2020-04-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Todd, Todd C. Miller wrote on Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 09:21:28PM -0600: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 04:21:42 +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> Calling timelocal(3) deprecated makes sense to me because it is >> nothing but a trivial wrapper around mktime(3), and the latter >> i

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