Re: [marxmail] ‘Maduro has done tremendous damage to the left’: An interview with Atenea Jiménez (Alliance for Sovereignty and Democracy, Venezuela)

2025-02-26 Thread Chris Slee via groups.io
Fred Fuentes says: Chris has once again sought to attack a Venezuelan left activist on the spurious ground that they do not take the sanctions serious enough. (His previous target was Edgardo Lander https://links.org.au/venezuela-us-blockade-and-election-response-edgardo-lander) His sole proof

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread duen filan via groups.io
marxism.com The Spark (RCI Taiwan) 05 August 2022 [by Ted Grant's apostles] The Taiwan National Question and the Tasks of the Taiwanese Marxists "... As Marxist we refuse to take sides in what, from the point of view of workers and the poor, is a false dichotomy; a choice between two reactiona

[marxmail] Assembly of Russian and Ukrainian Socialists at the 3rd Anniversary of Putin’s Invasion

2025-02-26 Thread RKOB via groups.io
*Assembly of Russian and Ukrainian Socialists at the 3rd Anniversary of Putin’s Invasion* */Report from a meeting of representatives of left-wing groups in Paris on 24 February/* /By the RCIT Media Team, 25 February 2025/ The /Union of Post-Soviet Left/ (PSL) and the "/Peace Below/" initiati

[marxmail] Six Questions with Dr. Johnny Eric Williams on Pretendians

2025-02-26 Thread Andie Stewart (she/they) via groups.io
https://stew312856.substack.com/p/six-questions-with-dr-johnny-eric Best regards, Andie Stewart (She/they, AMAB🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈) “Be as radical as reality itself.” -Ilyitch -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35511): https://groups.

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 02:02 PM, Tom Walker wrote: > > What contradiction is that you may wonder? The tendency of capital, "on > the one side, to create disposable time, on the other, to convert it into > surplus labour." If capital succeeds "too well" it becomes unable to > realize the surplus

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
I think the distinction is that AI is self-referential--not only is the "information" it presents derivative, but is derived from links and chains "validated" by the use of the AI itself. So user 1 reproduces  information from AI enterprise B, enterprise B then absorbs that very reproduction and

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
Here's the link I meant to include, https://www.investigatewest.org/investigatewest-reports/a-thin-green-line-with-global-impact-17692925?utm_source=chatgpt.com > On Feb 26, 2025, at 16:11, Mark Baugher via groups.io > wrote: > > > >> On Feb 26, 2025, at 09:03, Fred Murphy via groups.io >>

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 09:03, Fred Murphy via groups.io > wrote: > > Anthony Galluzzo has coined the term "deceleration," which I think does a > better job of capturing what degrowth advocates are getting at. > https://www.amazon.com/Gift-Death-Decelerationist-Politics-Seventies-ebook/dp/B0D

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 13:58, sartesian via groups.io > wrote: > > FWIW, I'd suggest prohibiting reproduction of AI responses > Maybe. I think unidentified AI response posts are wrong. But what about reproducing the response by paraphrasing the response? Instead, why not reassert our tradi

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 12:30, workerpoet via groups.io > wrote: > > Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov > Battalions. Workerpoet, you apparently didn't read the Wikipedia article in my post, https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35492, which has a section on t

Re: [marxmail] Trump undercuts Zelenskyy — but Americans are not abandoning Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
Hari: 1. the implicit endorsement refers to that made by CK, the original poster, not the list. 2. When I had the bad manners to respond to a similar acritical reproduction of similar liberal bourgeois talking points by the same original poster, pointing out that the supposed "radical" columnis

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread hari kumar via groups.io
Hello Fred: Do you have a short paragraph that describes the position in brief...? To factor in whether to acquire said book. Thanks for considering, H -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35503): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/m

Re: [marxmail] Trump undercuts Zelenskyy — but Americans are not abandoning Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread hari kumar via groups.io
Sartesian; As you well know, this is not a list which gives either "implicit" endorsement, or indeed any explicit endorsement - on the whole anyway - to any particular viewpoint. This is a rather capacious tent. If there was any such 'endorsement' it could only be gauged by an 'apparent' concen

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 02:10 PM, Mark Baugher wrote: > > We no doubt need an AI policy for contributions to this list. FWIW, I'd suggest prohibiting reproduction of AI responses -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35501): h

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:31 AM, Mark Baugher wrote: > > the phrase "the Stalinist-capitalist regime in Beijing" is a tortured > ahistorical oxymoron in my view. Not if your group traces its origins to the International Socialist Tendency and state capitalist theory, as I believe is the case h

[marxmail] Another prominent US oligarch places himself at the service of the governing party

2025-02-26 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
According to the paper’s AI-generated Conversation Summary, “the comments express strong disapproval of The Washington Post's new focus on 'personal liberties and free markets' in its opinion section. Many readers perceive this shift as a move towards right-wing ideology and a departure from the

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread workerpoet via groups.io
Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov Battalions. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35498): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35498 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111367768/21656 -=-=- P

Re: [marxmail] Israel Launches Major Air Assault on Damascus

2025-02-26 Thread John Edmundson via groups.io
This calls into question somewhat the claims that the HTS-led overthrow of Assad was an Israeli proxy action. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35497): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35497 Mute This Topic: https://group

[marxmail] Trump undercuts Zelenskyy — but Americans are not abandoning Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread Charles Keener via groups.io
Trump undercuts Zelenskyy — but Americans are not abandoning Ukraine | Salon.com As Trump tries to demean Ukraine, millions of Americans reach out to President Volodmyr Zelenskyy What America’s barely-elected president is trying to do to Ukraine and the world order is a disgrace. Most Amer

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 08:28, dan via groups.io > wrote: > > No sources for the time being because this is not necessary Your quote makes conclusions about two completely different systems, four hundred years apart, from nation states having different modes of production in a different

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Tom Walker via groups.io
I have argued against using the degrowth name for two decades within the degrowth community. It misleadingly implies using the same metric of GDP but in reverse, which would be irrational -- perhaps even more irrational than the conventional "rising tide trickles down" usage. A variation, "post

Re: [marxmail] Trump undercuts Zelenskyy — but Americans are not abandoning Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
OK here's a challenge.  According to a moderator: > > > So what? Again, even a liberal bourgeois ideologue may have knowledge or > information of value. Those types get posted to this list on a regular > basis. > > > > What knowledge or information of value does the above article by Haake p

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Tom Walker via groups.io
[Edited Message Follows] I have argued against using the degrowth name for two decades within the degrowth community. It misleadingly implies using the same metric of GDP but in reverse, which would be irrational -- perhaps even more irrational than the conventional "rising tide trickles down"

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 01:31 PM, Mark Baugher wrote: > > That was interesting, but the phrase "the Stalinist-capitalist regime in > Beijing" is a tortured ahistorical oxymoron in my view. And all 3 at once! That's impressive. But...not that I necessarily agree with MP's characterization, nor t

Re: [marxmail] Latin America under attack by Yankee imperialism

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 09:15, Kristin Bayrd via groups.io > wrote: > > I don’t think you understood what I said. > Sorry. That's certainly possible. Feel free to correct me. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 09:43, workerpoet via groups.io > wrote: > > The Banderites that, with U.S. help, took over in Ukraine are fascists as > well. When did that happen workerpoet? From the reference that I got from chatGPT: "During Ukraine's post-Soviet history, the far-right has remained

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
thank you -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35491): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35491 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111336789/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replyi

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 08:43, RKOB via groups.io > wrote: > > http://links.org.au/did-chinese-communist-party-always-consider-taiwan-part-chinese-nation That was interesting, but the phrase "the Stalinist-capitalist regime in Beijing" is a tortured ahistorical oxymoron in my view. Mark

Re: [marxmail] U.S. Economy Being Powered by the Richest 10% of Americans - WSJ

2025-02-26 Thread workerpoet via groups.io
Rich people rule but they cannot sustain a modern national capitalist economy without the rest of us. As Keynes pointed out decades ago, capitalism cannot create the needed number of jobs to keep any capitalist country above severe depression. It required a certain percent of public employment t

Re: [marxmail] M. Gessen: "If Ukraine Falls, All of Europe Could Fall"

2025-02-26 Thread workerpoet via groups.io
Agreed, I don't even think Putin is interested in the Baltic states much less taking over Europe. This is just scare-mongering. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35486): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35486 Mute This T

Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine

2025-02-26 Thread workerpoet via groups.io
The Banderites that, with U.S. help, took over in Ukraine are fascists as well. There are no good guys in this picture. Still even NATO's Jens Stoltneberg admitted the invasion would not have occurred without the NATO push. I hope the inter-fascist proxy war ends soon, though it looks like Trump

Re: [marxmail] Latin America under attack by Yankee imperialism

2025-02-26 Thread Kristin Bayrd via groups.io
Mark, I don’t think you understood what I said. Kristin -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35484): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35484 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111372562/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread RKOB via groups.io
Yes, the CPC advocated the right of national self-determination until the early 1940s. *Did the Chinese Communist Party always consider Taiwan as part of the Chinese nation?* by Michael Pröbsting, /LINKS/ (Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal), 06 October 2022. http://links.org

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Fred Murphy via groups.io
Anthony Galluzzo has coined the term "deceleration," which I think does a better job of capturing what degrowth advocates are getting at. https://www.amazon.com/Gift-Death-Decelerationist-Politics-Seventies-ebook/dp/B0D1Q6PP7X -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages se

[marxmail] Israel Launches Major Air Assault on Damascus

2025-02-26 Thread Dennis Brasky via groups.io
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:57 PM Murtaza Hussain < dropsitenews+murtaza-huss...@substack.com> wrote: > Israeli airstrikes and ground incursions threaten to destabilize Syria as > it struggles to recover from a decade-plus civil war > ͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏   ­͏

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread dan via groups.io
No sources for the time being because this is not necessary It is not about specific facts but about general observations that are obvious to everyone.. And as a historian I know very well how the VOC operated... how Leopold II operated in his Congo Free State... and how the Belgian State deal

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Avram Rips via groups.io
https://newbloommag.net/2024/08/06/qiao-tw-mr/ On Wednesday, February 26, 2025, Avram Rips via groups.io wrote: > No alike and different. That’s the extent of the pro authoritarian > government “left” where you think everyone will cheer if Taiwan is > permanently occupied by China. Oh by the wa

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 04:29 AM, duen filan wrote: > > Ukraine is a sovereign nation, while Taiwan is one of  China's islands. Would that we had the power in both cases to hold plebicites ensuring that the people rather than competing states determined their destiny. In the absence of such pl

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 07:59, dan via groups.io > wrote: > > Yes, economically and financially the strategy of both the VOC then and China > now is much more rational than traditional military conquests and colonial > rule. This is because they gain influence and wealth without the high cost

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread dan via groups.io
You said: The Dutch VOC set up trading posts all over the world without ever actually occupying those countries. Is this comparable to what China is doing in the Third World now? ChatGPT said: That is an interesting comparison. The Dutch VOC (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie) set up trading po

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Avram Rips via groups.io
No alike and different. That’s the extent of the pro authoritarian government “left” where you think everyone will cheer if Taiwan is permanently occupied by China. Oh by the way there’s a left in Taiwan. On Wednesday, February 26, 2025, duen filan via groups.io wrote: > The chart in Ben Seatt

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread sartesian via groups.io
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 07:29 AM, duen filan wrote: > > > When Taiwan finally goes down, all of Asia will cheer,  as it did after > learning imperial Japan had just bombed the crap out of the white > supremacist pigs' Pearl Harbour fleet. > > First, the island  sustained an indigenous populat

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread Marv Gandall via groups.io
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 09:50 PM, Charles wrote: > > ...talk to the Congolese copper miners and truckers who toil for Chinese > state corporations. In his quest to show demonstrate that Lenin's inter-imperialist rivalry best describes contemporary international relations, notably between the US

Re: [marxmail] Disposable time and Marx's theory of crisis

2025-02-26 Thread Mark Baugher
> On Feb 25, 2025, at 18:22, Tom Walker via groups.io > wrote: > > See also: > Disposable Time and The Theory of The Future Society--Pursuing Marx's > Footsteps > SHII Kazuo, Chair, Central Committee, Japanese Communist Party > Member of House of Representatives > Tokyo > June 25, 2024 >

Re: [marxmail] The continuing US corporate domination of the global economy

2025-02-26 Thread duen filan via groups.io
The chart in Ben Seattle's post asks the question "Is Taiwan like Ukraine?" I'll bite - No, Ukraine is a sovereign nation, while Taiwan is one of China's islands that has enjoyed the protection of America's war ships over the past eighty years. When Taiwan finally goes down, all of Asia will ch

Re: [marxmail] Breaking the Debt Chains: Exposing the Myths of Tax, Spend, and Borrow

2025-02-26 Thread Bobby MacVeety via groups.io
Hi Tom, thanks for considering this, not sure where your quotation is headed…? On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 6:03 PM Tom Walker via groups.io wrote: > "Proudhon, who certainly hears the bells ringing but never knows where, > therefore sees the origin of overproduction in the fact ‘that the worker > can