Hey there,
i would check the ip in addition to that you've done:
- mailspike
- multirbl.valli.org
But these tools won't cover the hidden internal lists like t-online and
others.
I went through this process since many years and it is still the same
everytime a new ip is added for mails.
Reg
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 01:17:38 +, Sabahattin Gucukoglu via mailop
wrote:
>Subject says it all, really: what's the minimum you have to do these days to
>get a new IP (that's not otherwise policied, SMTP portblocked and has working
>FCRDNS, obviously) past most filters out of the gate, at least
* Michael Denney via mailop:
> I'm simply replying via my normal mail client. I didn't realize that
> having HTML in my message would cause anyone problems. AFAIK everyone
> these days has an HTML-Capable mail client, but maybe I was wrong.
There are still loads of MUAs going strong which run ins
It appears that Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via mailop
said:
>Michael Denney via mailop writes:
>
>> I'm simply replying via my normal mail client. I didn't realize that =
>> having HTML in my message would cause anyone problems. AFAIK everyone =
>> these days has an HTML-Capable mail clie
Hi guys,
Subject says it all, really: what's the minimum you have to do these days to
get a new IP (that's not otherwise policied, SMTP portblocked and has working
FCRDNS, obviously) past most filters out of the gate, at least past SMTP
rejections? I'm thinking of standing up a new outbound pro
It appears that Andrew C Aitchison via mailop said:
>I conclude that this GMail user get virtually no wanted messages from
>*.eu.org addresses and that many gmail users get significant quantities
>of spam from these addresses.
>
>Yes, eu.org is a "TLD" but if most of those addresses send mostly
Admin note
On 27 Dec 2024, at 14:49, Peter Corlett via mailop wrote:
> As per the link in your top-posted HTML-obfuscated email
Don’t gatekeep [1], please. If someone has something to say on this list, it
matters not one jot whether it’s done via plain text inline-reply or top posted
HTML - as
Do you have Google Postmaster Tools configured for the domain as advised in the complete error message?It links here: https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageErrorWhy has Gmail blocked my messages?Troubleshoot delivery issues with Postmaster ToolsGmail Postmaster Tools provides senders
> Do you have Google Postmaster Tools configured for the domain as advised in
> the complete error message?
If your domain only sends occasional emails to gmail, postmaster tools are
completely useless, as they do not show any information if the volume is below
a certain threshold. This is true
Interesting. One of our VPS clients had a spam issue and got blocked by Google and was able to use the postmaster tools to resolve it. It was for a single low-volume domain.I wonder why it worked for them if it doesn’t work for low volume senders. Google is impossible to contact or work with. At le
> Interesting. One of our VPS clients had a spam issue and got blocked by
> Google and was able to use the postmaster tools to resolve it.
If they had a spam issue (e.g. a compromised account) then they probably had a
large enough volume caused by just this spam.
If you never send spam and ha
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 09:19:12AM -0500, Michael Denney via mailop wrote:
> I need to go make my coffee before I keep responding so I can boot my
> brain up fully.
While you're making coffee, as a brief respite from contemplating the
pain inflicted on SOHO email operators by the TBTF email provi
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 03:49:40PM +0100, Peter Corlett via mailop wrote:
> As per the link in your top-posted HTML-obfuscated email, "To use Postmaster
> Tools, you must have a Google Account". Which means agreeing to ream upon
> ream of legalese, and identifying yourself to a very large surveill
Michael Denney via mailop writes:
> I can definitely switch to non-HTML email for the mailing list if it's =
> beneficial / easier on everyone. I just didn't realize that in 2024 =
> this was an issue tbh.
I have pretty crappy eyesight, so a lot of HTML mail is just plain
unreadable to me. I al
Michael Denney via mailop writes:
> Of course there will be people that don't have HTML email, but in the =
> last 10+ years I can't think of a single instance beyond today where me =
> sending an HTML email instead of plain-text caused anyone any problems.
The above paragraph is a perfect exampl
Michael Denney via mailop writes:
> I'm simply replying via my normal mail client. I didn't realize that =
> having HTML in my message would cause anyone problems. AFAIK everyone =
> these days has an HTML-Capable mail client, but maybe I was wrong.
My two MUAs are Alpine and MH. Blissfully HT
Aha! Fair point.I need to go make my coffee before I keep responding so I can boot my brain up fully. 😂Thank you,Michael DenneyMDDHosting LLChttps://www.mddhosting.com/On Dec 27, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Kasper Peeters via mailop wrote:Interesting. One of our VPS clients had a spam issue and got blocked
On 2024-12-27 at 10:28:06 UTC-0500 (27 Dec 2024 10:28:06 -0500)
John Levine via mailop
is rumored to have said:
As I may have noted once or twice, often free services are worth what
you pay for them.
But often substantially less.
Expecting deliverability from a freebie domain to any of the b
I sent one, literally ONE, and quite important, mail, to Gmail user. I did
NOT send ANY messages to Gmail AT ALL in a week or so.
In reply I got the infamous rejection "Gmail has detected that this message
is likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent to Gmail,
this message has be
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
I sent one, literally ONE, and quite important, mail, to Gmail user. I did
NOT send ANY messages to Gmail AT ALL in a week or so.
In reply I got the infamous rejection "Gmail has detected that this message
is likely unsolicited mail. To redu
I think that it's doubtful that Google performing anti-spam filtration based
upon statistics and mail flows could be framed as discrimination or being
anti-competitive, but I've been wrong before.
If Jaroslaw Rafa hasn't created their Google Postmaster account [as advised in
the article linked
On 27. decembra 2024 20:03:33 UTC, Michael Denney via mailop
wrote:
>AFAIK everyone these days has an HTML-Capable mail client, but maybe I was
>wrong.
Of course, HTML capable MUAs are common nowadays, but
IMO the problem lies somewhere else.
The everyone is "big" word, did you ask everyone? O
Yes, my usage of 'everyone' was hyperbole or a generalization.
Of course there will be people that don't have HTML email, but in the last 10+
years I can't think of a single instance beyond today where me sending an HTML
email instead of plain-text caused anyone any problems.
Then again - this
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 07:47:35AM -0500, Michael Denney via mailop wrote:
> Do you have Google Postmaster Tools
> configured for the domain as advised in the complete error
> message?
[...]
As per the link in your top-posted HTML-obfuscated email, "To use Postmaster
Tools, you must have a Google
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Michael Denney via mailop wrote:
I'm simply replying via my normal mail client.
I didn't realize that having HTML in my message would cause anyone problems.
AFAIK everyone these days has an HTML-Capable mail client,
but maybe I was wrong.
I use alpine and am not a fan o
I can definitely switch to non-HTML email for the mailing list if it's
beneficial / easier on everyone. I just didn't realize that in 2024 this was
an issue tbh.
Thank you,
Michael Denney
MDDHosting LLC
http://www.mddhosting.com/
> On Dec 27, 2024, at 3:23 PM, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
>
Mmm. Curiously, it looks as though alpine now automatically reflows very long
plain text lines, like the ones generated by this MUA (Apple Mail). So there’s
that. Perhaps we need a new MIME content-type, “text/paragraphs”, to make it
official?
I advocate plain text, but since so many commercial
* Vladimir Gabrielescu via mailop:
> I would sympathize with the argument plain text is a better medium for
> accessibility reasons, but I think expecting senders to anticipate your
> choice of MUA is a voluntary self exclusion from modernity.
I expect senders on mailing lists (!) to conform to e
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 04:17:51AM +0100, Ralph Seichter via mailop wrote:
> * Michael Denney via mailop:
>
> > I'm simply replying via my normal mail client. I didn't realize that
> > having HTML in my message would cause anyone problems. AFAIK everyone
> > these days has an HTML-Capable mail cli
Printed newspapers are a perfectly valid way to receive the news, but it may
not make a lot of sense to insist that television stations delivery the nightly
news in a print format, or that social media should print a morning and night
edition to meet that shrinking market.
I would sympathize wi
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